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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Apr 30, 2019 19:13:03 GMT -5
I loved Arya’s moment. It was a good episode. I just feel a little conflicted about how resolving this huge problem fits.
Also Grey Worm was due to die after that speech, and I love Brienne but it sure seemed like she was doomed too.
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Post by Powerthirteen on Apr 30, 2019 19:24:18 GMT -5
I loved Arya’s moment. It was a good episode. I just feel a little conflicted about how resolving this huge problem fits. Also Grey Worm was due to die after that speech, and I love Brienne but it sure seemed like she was doomed too. If Beric and Brienne actually get together the internet is going to die from the thinkpieces and hot takes.
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Post by songstarliner on Apr 30, 2019 20:35:52 GMT -5
I hope an entire episode is given over to Clegane Bowl, and Sansa gives the Hound her favour, and Arya rides into the fight on his shoulder like some kind of badass Salacious Crumb.
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Post by songstarliner on Apr 30, 2019 20:41:41 GMT -5
I loved Arya’s moment. It was a good episode. I just feel a little conflicted about how resolving this huge problem fits. Also Grey Worm was due to die after that speech, and I love Brienne but it sure seemed like she was doomed too. If Beric and Brienne actually get together the internet is going to die from the thinkpieces and hot takes. Beric Dondarrion? She can do better than a guy killed seven times - what a loser!
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Post by Powerthirteen on Apr 30, 2019 20:44:23 GMT -5
If Beric and Brienne actually get together the internet is going to die from the thinkpieces and hot takes. Beric Dondarrion? She can do better than a guy killed seven times - what a loser! And by Beric I do mean Tormund.
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Post by pairesta on May 1, 2019 6:20:27 GMT -5
We only just watched it last night; we were both too drained from Endgame on Sunday, and Monday my wife had work to do late into the night. Whoah was my list way off, huh? I can't believe Lady Mormont got it, especially after she got a couple "no way she'll die" remarks in articles at TOC.
I don't have much else to add; I'm with the consensus here: too dark to see a lot of what was going on (my wife swears Tormund died at some point, it was so hard to see what was going on), surprised at how few major characters died, and while the Arya thing doesn't make any sense it was badass so who cares. I will say that I think dispensing with the White Walker plot so soon, and then saving the climax for Cersei, is at least true to the characters of the show, so I'm not as bothered that that's over.
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Post by Powerthirteen on May 1, 2019 11:28:26 GMT -5
We only just watched it last night; we were both too drained from Endgame on Sunday, and Monday my wife had work to do late into the night. Whoah was my list way off, huh? I can't believe Lady Mormont got it, especially after she got a couple "no way she'll die" remarks in articles at TOC. I don't have much else to add; I'm with the consensus here: too dark to see a lot of what was going on (my wife swears Tormund died at some point, it was so hard to see what was going on), surprised at how few major characters died, and while the Arya thing doesn't make any sense it was badass so who cares. I will say that I think dispensing with the White Walker plot so soon, and then saving the climax for Cersei, is at least true to the characters of the show, so I'm not as bothered that that's over. "Actually the Night King wasn't the point" is really just an 8-season long version of "Actually Ned Stark wasn't the point" in season 1, when you think about it.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on May 1, 2019 11:47:28 GMT -5
We only just watched it last night; we were both too drained from Endgame on Sunday, and Monday my wife had work to do late into the night. Whoah was my list way off, huh? I can't believe Lady Mormont got it, especially after she got a couple "no way she'll die" remarks in articles at TOC. I don't have much else to add; I'm with the consensus here: too dark to see a lot of what was going on (my wife swears Tormund died at some point, it was so hard to see what was going on), surprised at how few major characters died, and while the Arya thing doesn't make any sense it was badass so who cares. I will say that I think dispensing with the White Walker plot so soon, and then saving the climax for Cersei, is at least true to the characters of the show, so I'm not as bothered that that's over. "Actually the Night King wasn't the point" is really just an 8-season long version of "Actually Ned Stark wasn't the point" in season 1, when you think about it. That's the thing though - Ned Stark wasn't the point but the Night King *was* - or at least, was supposed to be.
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Post by ganews on May 1, 2019 15:56:57 GMT -5
"Actually the Night King wasn't the point" is really just an 8-season long version of "Actually Ned Stark wasn't the point" in season 1, when you think about it. That's the thing though - Ned Stark wasn't the point but the Night King *was* - or at least, was supposed to be. Ehhhhh...the zombies got the series opening scene, but we didn't get to see an Old White until the end of the second season at the Fist of the First Men, one killed the season after that, and the Night king way later. 95% of the show has been politics. And that's the show name, not ASOIAF.
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Post by Ben Grimm on May 5, 2019 21:18:54 GMT -5
I've never seen a show skip an episode in the middle of an episode before.
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Post by Murray the Demonic Skull on May 6, 2019 3:11:17 GMT -5
Who the hell leaves his dog like that.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 7:32:29 GMT -5
That's the thing though - Ned Stark wasn't the point but the Night King *was* - or at least, was supposed to be. Ehhhhh...the zombies got the series opening scene, but we didn't get to see an Old White until the end of the second season at the Fist of the First Men, one killed the season after that, and the Night king way later. 95% of the show has been politics. And that's the show name, not ASOIAF. I can only imagine what would happen if the LOTR movies were named Second Breakfast then.
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Post by chalkdevil 😈 on May 6, 2019 8:38:48 GMT -5
Who the hell leaves his dog like that. I know whenever I abandon my trusty dog, who I raised from a pup and who saved my life on numerous occasions, I like to go with knowing head nod while they stand alone across a court yard. Anyway, those dire wolves must have been real expensive to get into scenes because they wrote them out/completely ignored for long stretches of time. We got CGI dragons coming out of their ass, but that must be way cheaper than getting a wolf to walk around just right against a green screen, then slightly enlarge it and mask it into a scene with moving humans.
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Post by Crash Test Dumbass on May 6, 2019 9:09:24 GMT -5
DRAGONS: -roar across screen- ME: Wait, didn't that little wiener guy have an anti-drag... EMERGENCY BACKUP DRAGON: -arrowed- ME: Well, that was well timed, at least.
Also, ugh, Jon. He may not be Ned's son, but he certainly takes after Ned.
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Post by Ben Grimm on May 6, 2019 9:48:36 GMT -5
DRAGONS: -roar across screen- ME: Wait, didn't that little wiener guy have an anti-drag... EMERGENCY BACKUP DRAGON: -arrowed- ME: Well, that was well timed, at least. Also, ugh, Jon. He may not be Ned's son, but he certainly takes after Ned. Ned raised him properly to always make the dumbest possible decision in a high-stakes situation.
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Post by ganews on May 6, 2019 10:28:05 GMT -5
Lots of people pointing put that Jon doesn't have a great track record of leading off the battlefield. If Daenerys really is on a heel turn, and Jon becomes king, it would actually be pretty brilliant to show that he's not a very good king (Renly: "do you still think good fighters make good kings?") and the system continues more or less the same. The common people don't much care. It would be completely fitting with GRRM's whole deal.
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Post by Crash Test Dumbass on May 6, 2019 12:03:25 GMT -5
Just for the record, how quickly do the showrunners think you can reload a crossbow, let alone a ballista? I mean, the show plays fast and loose with time as it is, especially offscreen, but still, were Jamie and Tyrion just sitting there while Bronn just fumbled around with levers and claws and what have you?
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Post by Ben Grimm on May 6, 2019 13:53:13 GMT -5
Just for the record, how quickly do the showrunners think you can reload a crossbow, let alone a ballista? I mean, the show plays fast and loose with time as it is, especially offscreen, but still, were Jamie and Tyrion just sitting there while Bronn just fumbled around with levers and claws and what have you? It was a semi-automatic ballista. The SKBA (Seven Kingdoms Ballista Association) really holds tremendous power there.
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Post by Hachiman on May 6, 2019 21:21:45 GMT -5
Just for the record, how quickly do the showrunners think you can reload a crossbow, let alone a ballista? I mean, the show plays fast and loose with time as it is, especially offscreen, but still, were Jamie and Tyrion just sitting there while Bronn just fumbled around with levers and claws and what have you? My friend, have you never watched the Slingshot Channel on Youtube? Some extremely affable German guy creating all sorts of semi/full -auto crossbows out of plywood and rubberbands. Pump-action would have been my guess. My problem is how accurate the show runners think ballistae are on the open ocean. There's got to be crazy deviations caused by the wind alone.
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Post by pairesta on May 7, 2019 6:11:29 GMT -5
Man, I really can't believe that the end of Dany's arc after 8 years is for her to go mad like her father and want to burn everyone, after all that she's learned, after how much she's grown. I would hope D&D have something better in store for her.
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Post by patbat on May 7, 2019 9:03:22 GMT -5
Man, I really can't believe that the end of Dany's arc after 8 years is for her to go mad like her father and want to burn everyone, after all that she's learned, after how much she's grown. I would hope D&D have something better in store for her. The signs have been there all along, I feel like--beginning with Drogo's death, Dany's whole pattern is a) try to do a thing, b) shit, it didn't work, c) fuck it, burn it all down, then bounce.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2019 23:20:01 GMT -5
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Post by Crash Test Dumbass on May 11, 2019 8:49:44 GMT -5
YES I READ THE BOOKS AND ALSO THE TITLE OF THIS THREAD SHUT UP
One thing you can definitely say about this season is that you can see why GRRM is having so much trouble finishing the books.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 16:25:42 GMT -5
I'm shocked the people who thought the south winning the war would make for a good tv show, are fucking up the ending of GoT. So shocked.
Also, darkly hilarious how with the show ending the way it is, and GRRM never finishing the books, this will be all there ever is.
Thank god I'm watching a show right now that actually had a great finale, LOST. No sarcasm.
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Post by sarapen on May 12, 2019 17:49:42 GMT -5
Hey, are they rebuilding the Night's Watch or what? There aren't any ice zombies anymore and maybe no giants left either. Surely there's no reason to have the Foreign Legion around anymore. Sam appears to have quit and the other Night's Watch guys seem to be dead. Is Jon the last Night Watchman?
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Post by ganews on May 12, 2019 19:50:46 GMT -5
The next-to-last episode is about to air, and I'm disappointed that I haven't seen a thinkpiece about how Danaerys is getting unfairly labelled with emerging madness just because she has shown some very justified-in-context fury, and what it says about who is allowed to be angry. How does this essay not exist.
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Post by Hachiman on May 12, 2019 21:45:35 GMT -5
Hey, are they rebuilding the Night's Watch or what? There aren't any ice zombies anymore and maybe no giants left either. Surely there's no reason to have the Foreign Legion around anymore. Sam appears to have quit and the other Night's Watch guys seem to be dead. Is Jon the last Night Watchman? I mean, the whole organization was on its last legs in Season 1. In subsequent seasons, they showed that they had those abandoned castles and wildlings were able to pop over the wall pretty much at will. With peace being established with the wildlings, the (assumed) extinction of pretty much every large land animal north of the wall, the (almost definite) extinction of any sentient creature north of the wall, and the gigantic hole in the wall, the Night's Watch is now pretty redundant. You even have to wonder how good life will be for the (presumably very few) wildlings going back. Can't be much to hunt, definitely not much to eat. They likely won't be so much of a threat that you need an organization like the Night's Watch to contain them. And what is going to happen to Sam? Since his dad and brother are dead, will he and his family just return to Horn Hill and pretend like his time with the Night's Watch and the Citadel never happened?
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Post by Powerthirteen on May 12, 2019 22:46:57 GMT -5
Twitter's "What's happening" sidebar currently has an item that reads "Daenerys: GoT fans stunned after Battle of King's Landing takes a dark turn," which I find absolutely hilarious.
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Post by Powerthirteen on May 12, 2019 23:02:38 GMT -5
Also I miss when this was a brightly coloured show about people making schemey fingers at each other in an unusually lurid brothel.
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Post by Desert Dweller on May 12, 2019 23:03:25 GMT -5
The next-to-last episode is about to air, and I'm disappointed that I haven't seen a thinkpiece about how Danaerys is getting unfairly labelled with emerging madness just because she has shown some very justified-in-context fury, and what it says about who is allowed to be angry. How does this essay not exist. I haven't seen that thinkpiece, but I definitely heard that argument made on a podcast. Although, it was by book readers who were comparing the treatment of Dany in the books vs in the show. And they were doing it more as a "devil's advocate" type of argument. But still.
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