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Post by Lord Lucan on Sept 26, 2016 8:53:34 GMT -5
Criticism of Pitchfork seems like tedious posturing as much as fervent devotion to it - I find it to be a good resource for new music - but they sure know how to be wrong (e.g. the recent M.I.A. review).
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Post by moimoi on Sept 26, 2016 15:53:01 GMT -5
Don't know how I stumbled on to this or where else to put it, but it's kind of amazing. Bowie was just so 'game' - and a fine disco dancer to boot!
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Post by Lord Lucan on Sept 30, 2016 12:44:14 GMT -5
I think M.I.A.'s new one has been underrated in many places, but here's Christgau lauding it. It really is an excellent album. Maybe my favourite this year so far.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2016 10:10:02 GMT -5
Judge my shitty taste in music!
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Post by rimjobflashmob on Oct 1, 2016 10:55:18 GMT -5
Judge my shitty taste in music! Thee Oh Sees, Parquet Courts, Bowie, Zappa, and Cass McCombs? I see no shit here.
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Post by moimoi on Oct 1, 2016 13:25:07 GMT -5
Is any song enhanced by the inclusion of an air horn? I mean, I'm all for cool effects in songs, but air horns aren't cool. I don't think they've ever been cool. Have you ever seen anyone respond to the sound of one positively, or at all? I just don't get it.
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Post by Meth Lab Shenanigans on Oct 1, 2016 18:53:16 GMT -5
Is any song enhanced by the inclusion of an air horn? Yes.
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Post by Jean Luc de Lemur on Oct 4, 2016 13:04:28 GMT -5
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Post by Jimmy James on Oct 5, 2016 7:45:15 GMT -5
I was watching a program about the 1950's ( The Supersizers Go...), and this song was used in the background: When he hits that opening line, " When you walk in the garden..." my mind immediately snapped to this: Waits has wide-ranging tastes that stretch back a good ways, so I feel like this is a deliberate reference, though I had never heard the older one until last night.
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Post by ganews on Oct 11, 2016 21:43:21 GMT -5
The odd, pipe sort of sound opening Beck's "Wow" [ETA: and just now, the chorus too!] is being used in an Acura commercial. I'm pretty certain no Beck song has ever been licensed like this. Weird. This after the two most commercial-sounding singles in a decade. Still no album title or exact release date when it's supposed to come in October.
All weird.
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Post by ganews on Oct 13, 2016 9:45:56 GMT -5
So Dylan wins the Nobel for literature. Eh, I don't feel too strongly about it either way. People put too much emphasis on the Nobel committee for all the prizes anyway. Even the hard scientific awards are not immune to politics.
Anyway, Bringing It All Back Home is my favorite album from him. I think "I Want You" from Blonde on Blonde is the Dylaniest Dylan, not really in a good way. The vocal performance sounds like Dana Carvey's impression 20-some years later.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2016 14:27:20 GMT -5
I think Thee Oh Sees are my favorite post-2010 band.
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Post by moimoi on Oct 13, 2016 15:37:00 GMT -5
I think Thee Oh Sees are my favorite post-2010 band. I'd go with Tame Impala and/or Unknown Mortal Orchestra
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Post by Dellarigg on Oct 13, 2016 16:15:52 GMT -5
On Dylan, it's hard to think of any artist, in any medium, who progressed so far and so quickly as he did between Another Side of Bob Dylan and Bringing It All Back Home. It was a staggering, surely unprecedented leap forward. Maybe Rimbaud, or some painter I know nothing about?
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Post by Lord Lucan on Oct 15, 2016 10:31:33 GMT -5
I love Dylan, but the prize is for literature, not music. Absent the latter, do his lyrcs constitute the best of literature? In 1967, Christgau had this to say: '"My Back Pages" is a bad poem. But it is a good song, supported by a memorable refrain. The music softens our demands, the importance of what is being said somehow overbalances the flaws, and Dylan's delivery--he sounds as if he's singing a hymn at a funeral--adds a portentous edge not present just in the words.' I think this is true in many cases. A simple thought experiment is to consider whether, if he were solely a poet, he would be though worthy of the prize - I doubt it.
Are there not living novelists and poets and non-fiction writers more deserving? Certainly. Dylan was the subject of a study by Christopher Ricks, who is an excellent critic, it can be noted, though in his Oxford Lectures, I recall Ricks's friend Geoffrey Hill, also a first-rate critic, wishing he'd not written it.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Oct 15, 2016 16:53:10 GMT -5
Regarding Dylan, like ganews, I don't feel too strongly about it. By no means do I regard the Nobel Prize as a definitive measure of who the greatest writers are/were; there have been far too many oversights of great writers (Woolf, Nabokov, Borges, etc.). Since I started paying somewhat close attention to the Nobel Prize in Literature, I've mostly just used it as a way to familiarize myself with the work of the laureates. Dylan definitely an unusual choice, but looking back at the past couple of years, the Committee seems to be trying to diversify their choices (to an extent, at least, looking at a list of laureates, all but five of the 21st Century's laureates have been white, which is dumb as shit), both in the sense that more women have been winning (it would appear that there have also only been five female laureates in the 21st Century, but four of those were within the last 10 years, which is progress considering that there have only been 14 female Nobel laureates in Literature in total), and in the sense that in the last couple of years, a number of writers in genres previously overlooked by the Committee have been winning, Dylan being the first Laureate to win the award for songwriting, 2015 Laureate Svetlana Alexievich being a writer of oral histories, 2013 laureate Alice Munro being basically the only writer to win the award who only ever writes short stories, or perhaps to a lesser extent, occasional science fiction writer Doris Lessing winning in 2007.
I am somewhat pathetically ignorant when it comes to Dylan's music, so I'm far from an expert, but some of the better known tracks that I have heard tend to be rather didactic, albeit more elegantly written than the lyrics of most thematically didactic musical artists. I'd also say that when it comes to highly praised lyricists in popular music, I've tended to be more impressed by Leonard Cohen, although with Alice Munro having just won the award in 2013, I highly doubt another Canadian will win the award for a couple of decades at least. But eh, again, it's an over-valued accolade. I have used this news as justification for why I need to finally tackle Dylan's somewhat daunting discography, and he is an excellent songwriter, so regardless of whether I think he deserves a Nobel I'll at least have gotten rid of a major musical blind spot as a result of his win, so yay for that.
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Post by ganews on Oct 15, 2016 20:03:54 GMT -5
I have used this news as justification for why I need to finally tackle Dylan's somewhat daunting discography, and he is an excellent songwriter, so regardless of whether I think he deserves a Nobel I'll at least have gotten rid of a major musical blind spot as a result of his win, so yay for that. You should do a Vs thread like Nudeviking.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Oct 15, 2016 21:14:44 GMT -5
I have used this news as justification for why I need to finally tackle Dylan's somewhat daunting discography, and he is an excellent songwriter, so regardless of whether I think he deserves a Nobel I'll at least have gotten rid of a major musical blind spot as a result of his win, so yay for that. You should do a Vs thread like Nudeviking . Will this thread suffice?
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Post by ganews on Oct 18, 2016 14:40:44 GMT -5
Wow, Chuck Berry is 90. And just announced an album for next year, his first in 38 years.
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Post by songstarliner on Oct 18, 2016 17:30:48 GMT -5
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Post by repulsionist on Oct 18, 2016 17:55:46 GMT -5
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Post by songstarliner on Oct 20, 2016 15:24:07 GMT -5
After eight hours - EIGHT HOURS! - of mandatory vapid indie folk music, I'm scrubbing my ears and brain out with LOUD HAWKWIND.
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Post by moimoi on Oct 20, 2016 15:37:52 GMT -5
After eight hours - EIGHT HOURS! - of mandatory vapid indie folk music, I'm scrubbing my ears and brain out with LOUD HAWKWIND. How vapid are we talking here? On a scale of Elliot Smith to Lumineers?
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Post by songstarliner on Oct 20, 2016 15:42:18 GMT -5
After eight hours - EIGHT HOURS! - of mandatory vapid indie folk music, I'm scrubbing my ears and brain out with LOUD HAWKWIND. How vapid are we talking here? On a scale of Elliot Smith to Lumineers? Oh god, it was a spotify radio station - Happy Indie Folk, I think - that heavily featured the Lumineers. For fuck's sake.
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Post by rimjobflashmob on Oct 20, 2016 20:46:33 GMT -5
How vapid are we talking here? On a scale of Elliot Smith to Lumineers? Oh god, it was a spotify radio station - Happy Indie Folk, I think - that heavily featured the Lumineers. For fuck's sake. How heavily, on a scale from 1 to the 10th season of The X-Files?
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Post by songstarliner on Oct 20, 2016 21:44:34 GMT -5
Oh god, it was a spotify radio station - Happy Indie Folk, I think - that heavily featured the Lumineers. For fuck's sake. How heavily, on a scale from 1 to the 10th season of The X-Files? Ow my brain *gargles, rinses, spits with Dead Kennedys*
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Post by ganews on Oct 21, 2016 11:38:55 GMT -5
How heavily, on a scale from 1 to the 10th season of The X-Files? Ow my brain *gargles, rinses, spits with Dead Kennedys* Just yesterday someone on AVC linked to the ancient, rambling Onion interview with Jello Biafra where he poops during the interview.
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Post by repulsionist on Oct 21, 2016 15:59:39 GMT -5
ganews, I wager the ramble is perceived by unqualified news stories of the time. Dangling context, I'd say. If nothing else, it got me to listen to Pachinko. Thanks for the linked link.
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Post by Dellarigg on Oct 24, 2016 12:16:38 GMT -5
The E Street Band's 'Professor' Roy Bittan is from Rockaway Beach! Everything about this man delights me. Also, I wasn't sure Rockaway Beach was a real place, as it could easily be what it sounds like, a Ramones fantasy land with a band in every cove.
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