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Post by Nudeviking on Jan 12, 2021 23:08:46 GMT -5
Yeah, Nude, I was going to ask you at some point what Rain's deal was. I remember him being huge in America circa 2006 but couldn't tell you a thing about him as a musician. Also, New Jack Swing is good actually!?!? Rain was Korean Usher and I think for some reason got kind of popular in America to the point that Rain fans flooded some kind of Time Person of the Year voting thing at some point to get him to be the Person of the Year. I'm not entire sure why he became popular outside of Korea (I'm guessing it had something to do with abs) to the point that he got to be in not one but two shitty Hollywood movies. As for New Jack Swing being actually good does that include the "dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun DANT!" drum thing that all those songs have because that's the thing I hate about it and this song is pretty much just that.
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Jan 12, 2021 23:18:48 GMT -5
Yeah, Nude, I was going to ask you at some point what Rain's deal was. I remember him being huge in America circa 2006 but couldn't tell you a thing about him as a musician. Also, New Jack Swing is good actually!?!? Rain was Korean Usher and I think for some reason got kind of popular in America to the point that Rain fans flooded some kind of Time Person of the Year voting thing at some point to get him to be the Person of the Year. I'm not entire sure why he became popular outside of Korea (I'm guessing it had something to do with abs) to the point that he got to be in not one but two shitty Hollywood movies. As for New Jack Swing being actually good does that include the "dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun DANT!" drum thing that all those songs have because that's the thing I hate about it and this song is pretty much just that. The "dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun DANT!" drum thing is the best part of New Jack Swing! Wait, no, the best part of New Jack Swing is that it gave Neneh Cherry a career, the "dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun DANT!" drum thing is the second best part of New Jack Swing.
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Post by Nudeviking on Jan 12, 2021 23:21:02 GMT -5
Rain was Korean Usher and I think for some reason got kind of popular in America to the point that Rain fans flooded some kind of Time Person of the Year voting thing at some point to get him to be the Person of the Year. I'm not entire sure why he became popular outside of Korea (I'm guessing it had something to do with abs) to the point that he got to be in not one but two shitty Hollywood movies. As for New Jack Swing being actually good does that include the "dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun DANT!" drum thing that all those songs have because that's the thing I hate about it and this song is pretty much just that. The "dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun DANT!" drum thing is the best part of New Jack Swing! Wait, no, the best part of New Jack Swing is that it gave Neneh Cherry a career, the "dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun DANT!" drum thing is the second best part of New Jack Swing. Maybe you'll like that song more than I did then, though it does not involve either Neneh or Eagle Eye Cherry.
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Post by moimoi on Jan 15, 2021 13:47:29 GMT -5
If B96 (on Radio.com now, which couldn't be more generic) isn't going provide its rotation playlist, I have no choice but to look at what they actually play, and what I can tell you about what they actually played in the past two hours - including 'drive time' - is that they only played five new songs. They played Drake "Laugh Now, Cry Later" twice...Anyway, let's check out this 'new' shit.
Lasting Lover by Sigala / James Arthur - Rips off MGMT and this dude can't sing. Do they just give singing careers to any white guys with tats now? I will bet money Sam Smith rejected this.
Prisoner by Miley Cyrus / Dua Lipa - Miley's shtick is so tired. This sounds like a Maroon 5 reject.
Put Your Records On by Ritt Momney - Not as clever as Com Truise, who has been around for like a decade. Plus his vocals are just goofy. Pretty sure this cover was commissioned by Target Corporation.
Ritmo by Black Eyed Peas / J Balvin - Only the Black Eyed Peas could be behind such a lazy 90s rehash for the Bad Boys for Life soundtrack. J Balvin is the only thing new or fresh about this. Completely inessential.
Save Your Tears by The Weeknd - So his Spotify switched from A-Ha to OMD? Expect the next one to sound like Simple Minds or Tears for Fears. I'd rather listen to actual 80s synth pop.
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Post by moimoi on Feb 1, 2021 10:54:54 GMT -5
My official ruling on New Jack Swing: It's amazing.
Here's Exhibit A:
Case closed.
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Feb 1, 2021 13:26:22 GMT -5
My official ruling on New Jack Swing: It's amazing. Here's Exhibit A: Case closed. As if the awesomeness of New Jack Swing is up for debate! Pshaw
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Post by moimoi on Feb 1, 2021 18:44:00 GMT -5
Wonder of wonders, the top song on the Billboard Hot 100 is something I've never heard! (possibly because I've barely been out of the house in my car for weeks). Clearly I'm not missing much, though:
1. Driver's License by Olivia Rodrigo - Is that you, Lorde? Or Alessia Cara? My god this is BORING. I might actually prefer Adele's shitty, boring ballads because at least Adele has style. 2-9. REPEATS 10. Good Days by SZA - I like this. Generally I'm a fan of somnambulant alternative R&B a la Frank Ocean, Jeremih, Sampha, James Blake, et al. I very much doubt I will hear this on the radio, though. It's too formless and lacking in hooks. Only Beyonce gets away with that on the radio (because payola). 11-14. REPEATS 15. Better Together by Luke Combs - This guy's voice doesn't impress me and it's just more clichés piled up. Why don't country singers tell stories anymore? 16. Body by Meghan Thee Stallion - Not bad. Kind of obvious, but all her stuff is. 17-18. REPEATS 19. Whoopty - CJ - Disposable zero of hip hop(rosy). I cannot think of a more lazy or annoying sample around which to build a track. 20-21. REPEATs 22. Bad Boy - Juice WRLD & Young Thug - Of all the recent reanimations of the late Juice WRLD, I think this is my favorite so far. The instrumental has a nice lo-fi crunch to it.
I'm stopping there because the rest of the top 40 has too much country and I'll just be copy/pasting see #15 a dozen times between repeats. Ho hum, 2021.
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Post by moimoi on Feb 2, 2021 16:59:01 GMT -5
This thread needs more good music, so here's more new jack swing
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Post by moimoi on Feb 2, 2021 18:03:41 GMT -5
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Post by Nudeviking on Feb 2, 2021 19:22:30 GMT -5
I got a three-way tie between RM, JB, and Minhyun so the quiz itself was inconclusive. If I'm going solely by looks I guess I'd pick that Minhyun cat.
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Post by moimoi on Feb 16, 2021 16:57:30 GMT -5
OK, here's new shit on KISS FM - it's mostly mediocre white guys:
1-5 (repeats) 6. Justin Beiber - Anyone - He's done a lot worse. I think he's going for that anthemic, Harry Styles vibe, but he's nowhere near as likeable. 7-9 (repeats) 10. The Kid Laroi - So Done - What a whiney little bitch. Truly, this is music for stupid children - it even has that insipid ukelele riff. 11-15 (repeats) 16. Machine Gun Kelly - my ex's best friend - Short and punchy non-descript pop-punk/trap a la 21 Pilots. I'd never want to listen to this, but it doesn't anger me either. 17-18 (repeat) 19. Tate McCrae - You Broke Me First - I think this is the Kid Laroi's girlfriend (or will be, if it gets views). Baby-voiced white-girl "R&B". No. 20. Loona - Star - Aw shit, iiiiiiit's KPOP! So it's easily the best thing on this list. Mega-catchy and listenable. 21. Ava Max - My Head & My Heart - Fuck Ava Max. Five seconds in, I could tell which 90s dance hit this 'quotes'. This is probably her best song. Again, Fuck Ava Max. 22-23 (repeat) 24. All Time Low - Monsters - I guess blackbear is the go-to guy for third-tier emo-inflected pop-punk. Okay then...at least this sounds different and it has a tune. 25. Tiësto - The Business - Oh we've come full circle, have we? We're not just borrowing late 90s progressive house sounds, but the artists as well? I've got no problem with this, even this sounds 100% like Spybar circa '98. 26. The Kid Laroi - Without You - Yup, he's singing here - badly. Somebody call a child psychologist - he's giving off some serious "I hate my mom" energy. 27. Ed Sheeran - Afterglow - Major CSNY vibes. Somebody's been texting Taylor Swift about how to regain artistic relevance. [nods in approval]
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Post by moimoi on Mar 16, 2021 11:36:43 GMT -5
I thought about doing some snark on this bullshit, but it looks like it's been covered
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Mar 16, 2021 12:43:10 GMT -5
"I think I speak for everyone when I say that becoming a cog in the K-pop industry was the greatest thing to have ever happened to me. Alright, thank you so much! Woo!"
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Post by moimoi on Apr 19, 2021 21:45:14 GMT -5
I think this makes the case that AJR is the apotheosis of bad millennial pop music
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Apr 19, 2021 21:59:12 GMT -5
I think this makes the case that AJR is the apotheosis of bad millennial pop music I have a friend who loves AJR, and a different friend who loves Twenty-One Pilots. They're lovely people and they make me feel good about my life choices.
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Post by moimoi on May 8, 2021 12:01:52 GMT -5
The first line of Coldplay's new Max-Martin-produced single is "sometimes I just can't take it", for which my response was "neither can I" as I closed the tab.
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Post by pantsgoblin on May 8, 2021 13:42:28 GMT -5
The first line of Coldplay's new Max-Martin-produced single is "sometimes I just can't take it", for which my response was "neither can I" as I closed the tab. Oh dear, I had no idea Chris Martin & Co. were desperate enough to seek out Max Martin. *shoots insulin in case we get a Diane Warren co-write* [I'm so funny]
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on May 8, 2021 13:57:47 GMT -5
The first line of Coldplay's new Max-Martin-produced single is "sometimes I just can't take it", for which my response was "neither can I" as I closed the tab. Oh dear, I had no idea Chris Martin & Co. were desperate enough to seek out Max Martin. *shoots insulin in case we get a Diane Warren co-write* [I'm so funny] Credit where it's due, the first three notes of "Baby One More Time" are pretty unimpeachable.
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Post by moimoi on May 8, 2021 15:34:21 GMT -5
Oh dear, I had no idea Chris Martin & Co. were desperate enough to seek out Max Martin. *shoots insulin in case we get a Diane Warren co-write* [I'm so funny] Credit where it's due, the first three notes of "Baby One More Time" are pretty unimpeachable. Yeah, I do wish pop fans would read his Wikipedia before getting heated over The Weeknd or whoever not getting recognition for their profound artistic achievements or whatever.
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Post by moimoi on Jul 19, 2021 14:53:51 GMT -5
No snark this time - just praise for the following artists breaking mainstream pop radio:
- Anderson Paak (via Silk Sonic)
If radio played nothing but these, K-pop, Calvin Harris & his affiliates, I would be a happy moi.
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Post by moimoi on Oct 26, 2021 10:43:17 GMT -5
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Post by pantsgoblin on Oct 26, 2021 10:57:00 GMT -5
These damn kids. In my day, we had that death rattle noise that Tom Petty makes when trying to pronounce "eye" on " Here Comes My Girl" and we liked it.
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Post by William T. Goat, Esq. on Oct 30, 2021 13:36:47 GMT -5
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Post by Nudeviking on Nov 2, 2021 1:47:05 GMT -5
And here I was thinking all this time that they were talkin' about Saddle Creek stalwarts, Cursive's particular brand of cello based Midwestern emo rock.
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Nov 6, 2021 14:31:12 GMT -5
moimoi , I had to read this article and now you do too. Bad enough that I had to pretend Solange was a visionary; am I going to need to act like the singer of "Whip My Hair" is this generation's Hendrix? Alternately, maybe the singer of "Whip My Hair" is this generation's Hendrix, which makes a good case for the anthropocene extinction.
Also, when did Travis Barker become, like, the biggest rock star ever? Is it just that he was the go-to rock guy for rappers in the '00s and he built a post-Blink career out of that?
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Post by moimoi on Nov 6, 2021 14:55:14 GMT -5
moimoi , I had to read this article and now you do too. Bad enough that I had to pretend Solange was a visionary; am I going to need to act like the singer of "Whip My Hair" is this generation's Hendrix? Alternately, maybe the singer of "Whip My Hair" is this generation's Hendrix, which makes a good case for the anthropocene extinction.
Also, when did Travis Barker become, like, the biggest rock star ever? Is it just that he was the go-to rock guy for rappers in the '00s and he built a post-Blink career out of that?
NGL, I was impressed by WILLOW's song "Lipstick" - I even played it on my show (with some commentary on the sorry state of pop, when everybody is looking for some 'deeper' alternative). "Overthinking It" and "Wait a Minute" aren't bad either. The article is too much, though - it should have one of those PAID PROMOTION disclaimers. Plus the collab with Avril & Travis Barker screams: murderer's row of top producers were employed to give her sound 'depth' but make sure there's enough commercial accessibility to recoup the fortune that was probably spent on this.
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Nov 6, 2021 17:07:26 GMT -5
moimoi , I had to read this article and now you do too. Bad enough that I had to pretend Solange was a visionary; am I going to need to act like the singer of "Whip My Hair" is this generation's Hendrix? Alternately, maybe the singer of "Whip My Hair" is this generation's Hendrix, which makes a good case for the anthropocene extinction.
Also, when did Travis Barker become, like, the biggest rock star ever? Is it just that he was the go-to rock guy for rappers in the '00s and he built a post-Blink career out of that?
NGL, I was impressed by WILLOW's song "Lipstick" - I even played it on my show (with some commentary on the sorry state of pop, when everybody is looking for some 'deeper' alternative). "Overthinking It" and "Wait a Minute" aren't bad either. The article is too much, though - it should have one of those PAID PROMOTION disclaimers. Plus the collab with Avril & Travis Barker screams: murderer's row of top producers were employed to give her sound 'depth' but make sure there's enough commercial accessibility to recoup the fortune that was probably spent on this. See, "Lipstick" is a pretty good song - hey, lots of these songs are listenable. Good, even! - but there is something very, very bizarre about the framing here, as though the surrounding thoughts, about a black queer woman artist chronicling the Gen Z struggle against late capitalism and climate catastrophe and blah blah blah, yas queen, was written well in advance, as though the author was desperate, so desperate to write those words, and the only place they could do it was on a mic dot com article about Willow fucking Smith of all people. (I actually have lots of thoughts about this article which I am happy to vent about over PM.)
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Post by moimoi on Nov 6, 2021 22:15:50 GMT -5
NGL, I was impressed by WILLOW's song "Lipstick" - I even played it on my show (with some commentary on the sorry state of pop, when everybody is looking for some 'deeper' alternative). "Overthinking It" and "Wait a Minute" aren't bad either. The article is too much, though - it should have one of those PAID PROMOTION disclaimers. Plus the collab with Avril & Travis Barker screams: murderer's row of top producers were employed to give her sound 'depth' but make sure there's enough commercial accessibility to recoup the fortune that was probably spent on this. See, "Lipstick" is a pretty good song - hey, lots of these songs are listenable. Good, even! - but there is something very, very bizarre about the framing here, as though the surrounding thoughts, about a black queer woman artist chronicling the Gen Z struggle against late capitalism and climate catastrophe and blah blah blah, yas queen, was written well in advance, as though the author was desperate, so desperate to write those words, and the only place they could do it was on a mic dot com article about Willow fucking Smith of all people. (I actually have lots of thoughts about this article which I am happy to vent about over PM.)
Oh yeah, I hear you. Feel free to share further thoughts - I'd be interested in the perspective of someone closer to Gen Z, since I'm clearly an old curmudgeon.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Nov 7, 2021 23:14:19 GMT -5
Hey, I think some people underestimate how hard it is to clearly articulate words while singing. And that isn't even a joke!
Besides which, pop/rock stars have been mangling diction forever.
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Jan 29, 2023 14:17:30 GMT -5
This take is approaching nuclear-level hotness, but I gotta say: christ, Carly Rae Jepsen is still a thing? And she's doing disco now? C'mon now. You need a personality or a voice to do disco; Deschaneloid adorkability doesn't cut it.
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