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Post by Dr. Dastardly on Jun 17, 2014 12:48:52 GMT -5
I'm going with "no" on the Hound living, just 'cause that seems like what a normal TV show would do. Rule is, "If you don't see him die he's not dead," so it would be just like GoT to go the other way.
Hey, people who are talking about the difference between the books and the show: you're in the wrong thread.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2014 12:51:48 GMT -5
Man I hope he does live, but fractured femur in the middle of nowhere (or, 10 miles from the Eyrie) it kinda troublesome. He may have a pegleg if he shows up eventually. Well, his brother did get FUCKING IMPALED and he still lived-ish. Yea I'm pretty excited to see what Mad Non-maester meant by "different" re the Mountain
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Post by Baramos on Jun 17, 2014 23:26:04 GMT -5
Well, his brother did get FUCKING IMPALED and he still lived-ish. Yea I'm pretty excited to see what Mad Non-maester meant by "different" re the Mountain He will now be a pacifist vegan.
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Post by Nudeviking on Jun 18, 2014 3:36:29 GMT -5
Well, his brother did get FUCKING IMPALED and he still lived-ish. Yea I'm pretty excited to see what Mad Non-maester meant by "different" re the Mountain It was probably just a meta-joke about how they've already had like three different actors play that dude.
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Post by ganews on Jun 20, 2014 23:35:10 GMT -5
Leftover thought from episode 9:
Amon to Sam: "What's wrong with hearing your old maester talk about seeex? I had seeeeeeexx."
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Post by Paleu on Jun 28, 2014 2:46:27 GMT -5
So, what does everyone think of Tyrion finally getting his hands dirty by murdering Shae? I don't care what you think of her, that was cold. I mean, his dad had it coming (and how awesome was that scene?? Charles Dance can make a man taking a shit trying to reason with his son with a crossbow pointed at him look noble), but Shae was scorned and used. Even Tywin was like, "yeah, you killed a whore? Who doesn't?" Even Tyrion considers it murder. This world can break even the best men. I was disappointed. There was fairly length debate on Newbies Thread after the Trial episode about what Shae's motives were. scrawler among others was holding down the side that Shae was being blackmailed or threatened (and I agreed), whereas the other side took the "Nah she's just a lying bitch and should DIE" side and welp, looks like Martin and the show were on their side too. I'm late to this party, but having just finished the finale myself, I think that's a pretty harsh read on the show's "feelings" toward Tyrion killing Shae. I definitely don't think it's framed as justified, but it does make sense that Tyrion would be deeply, deeply hurt by Shae's betrayal (which here doesn't seem to be entirely due to blackmail) and the first thing she did was try to kill him. Also, she was sleeping with Tywin; it's not like Tyrion went looking for her. And finally, Tyrion looked literally dead inside after strangling her, so it's not like he took joy in what he was doing. All that being said, did anyone else find episode 9 like, really boring, especially for an "action-packed" episode? It doesn't help that I think the Wall is the least interesting storyline and I just didn't really care about Jon and Ygritte, whose death was indeed tragic but didn't really hit me that hard. I honestly felt sadder when Dany had to lock up her dragons in the finale, since that was clearly, obviously against what she believed and the show had invested much more time in making that clear.
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Post by nowimnothing on Jun 28, 2014 6:02:13 GMT -5
All that being said, did anyone else find episode 9 like, really boring, especially for an "action-packed" episode? It doesn't help that I think the Wall is the least interesting storyline and I just didn't really care about Jon and Ygritte, whose death was indeed tragic but didn't really hit me that hard. I honestly felt sadder when Dany had to lock up her dragons in the finale, since that was clearly, obviously against what she believed and the show had invested much more time in making that clear. I want to blame that on Kit Harrington, but the truth is that Jon is not that interesting in the books either. I think it comes down to the fact that he is the most traditional fantasy hero stereotype.
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Post by Paleu on Jun 28, 2014 15:20:40 GMT -5
All that being said, did anyone else find episode 9 like, really boring, especially for an "action-packed" episode? It doesn't help that I think the Wall is the least interesting storyline and I just didn't really care about Jon and Ygritte, whose death was indeed tragic but didn't really hit me that hard. I honestly felt sadder when Dany had to lock up her dragons in the finale, since that was clearly, obviously against what she believed and the show had invested much more time in making that clear. I want to blame that on Kit Harrington, but the truth is that Jon is not that interesting in the books either. I think it comes down to the fact that he is the most traditional fantasy hero stereotype. That's what I've heard, and I think you're probably right about him (and his plot) fitting a stereotype. I think the plot at The Wall is also enough material for what would be one book's worth in any other storyline, but it's stretched out over seven books. I didn't mind the performances as much, since it really wasn't the actors' fault that they came across so bland when they were written so bland.
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Post by Dr. Dastardly on Jul 7, 2014 13:15:30 GMT -5
All that being said, did anyone else find episode 9 like, really boring, especially for an "action-packed" episode? Yes.
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Jul 25, 2014 16:37:54 GMT -5
ALEXANDER SIDDIG HAS BEEN CAST IN SEASON FIVE!
I won't spoil the role as this is the newbies thread, but it's a character I would have fancast as Siddig and then never expected to see it happen. So I'm really happy.
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Post by rimjobflashmob on Jul 30, 2014 4:21:51 GMT -5
ALEXANDER SIDDIG HAS BEEN CAST IN SEASON FIVE! I won't spoil the role as this is the newbies thread, but it's a character I would have fancast as Siddig and then never expected to see it happen. So I'm really happy. You misspelled Siddig El Tahir El Fadil El Siddig Abderrahman Mohammed Ahmed Abdel Karim El Mahdi.
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Post by Baramos on Aug 24, 2014 1:48:08 GMT -5
PREPARE YOURSELF FOR LIFE ON THE WALL Pssh, if you guys want Game of Thrones/Song of Ice and Fire music there are entire power metal albums built around it, not to mention rap songs.
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Post by ganews on Jan 31, 2015 1:01:59 GMT -5
Just got back from the IMAX showing of episodes 9 and 10 of season 4. At the end they showed a preview of season 5, which I'm sure will make its way to the internet soon...oh look, here's a bootleg that's already on youtube.
Lookin' pretty awesome! And Tyrion gets a beard!
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Post by rimjobflashmob on Jan 31, 2015 2:07:04 GMT -5
Good trailer. I really hope the show just gives GRRM the finger and barrels past the books these next two seasons. The quicker we polish off ADWD the better.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 14:22:55 GMT -5
Of course they scored it with Bowie.
I officially like Game of Thrones more than football at this point.
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Post by Invisible Goat on Mar 9, 2015 16:20:42 GMT -5
Hoooly shit. Need it now.
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Post by sarapen on Mar 11, 2015 17:24:32 GMT -5
All new Arya.
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Post by ganews on Apr 12, 2015 19:31:37 GMT -5
Oh shit kiddies, just a half hour away!
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Post by pairesta on Apr 13, 2015 6:41:46 GMT -5
During the opening, my wife: "I think that girl is Cersei." As-yet-unidentified girl, to witch: "You're boring." "Yep, that's Cersei."
Anybody else get nervous when they set another scene between Jamie and Cersei next to the body of a family member?
We both thought they'd pulled another actor swap, this time with Grey Worm, and then just to kill him off.
Boy, Cirian Hinds sure didn't get alot to do as Mance, did he? What was he in, four episodes?
What was that exchange between Melisandre and Jon Snuh when they were riding up the wall about? They way she was looking at him, I'm back to thinking Snuh is going to wind up being a Baratheon bastard, despite it being patiently explained to me by the good people here and elsewhere that he isn't. maybe this will be one of the departure points from the books.
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Post by ganews on Apr 13, 2015 6:55:48 GMT -5
During the opening, my wife: "I think that girl is Cersei." As-yet-unidentified girl, to witch: "You're boring." "Yep, that's Cersei." Anybody else get nervous when they set another scene between Jamie and Cersei next to the body of a family member? We both thought they'd pulled another actor swap, this time with Grey Worm, and then just to kill him off. Boy, Cirian Hinds sure didn't get alot to do as Mance, did he? What was he in, four episodes? What was that exchange between Melisandre and Jon Snuh when they were riding up the wall about? They way she was looking at him, I'm back to thinking Snuh is going to wind up being a Baratheon bastard, despite it being patiently explained to me by the good people here and elsewhere that he isn't. maybe this will be one of the departure points from the books. I agree, the Melisandre thing must be a reference to his parentage. The funniest thing is that we're all used to her over-direct weirdness, and while Jon presumably is not he isn't particularly phased by her coming right out and asking about his sex life. Either they've spent some time off-camera or that is the prevailing topic of conversation with visitor's to the Night's Watch. The intro recap mentioned Myrcella, presumably just so we all remember that she exists for when the witch tells the bitch-in-training that she will have three children. Also: three shrouds? I thought they don't hurt little girls in Dorne? (I love to quote that last line to Lifemate using Pedro Pascal's accent.)
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Post by pairesta on Apr 13, 2015 9:06:23 GMT -5
Also, what's with all the redheads going brunette on this show? Both Melisandre and Sansa are brunette now. Is it in homage to Ygritte?
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Post by Invisible Goat on Apr 13, 2015 11:00:25 GMT -5
Also, what's with all the redheads going brunette on this show? Both Melisandre and Sansa are brunette now. Is it in homage to Ygritte? People in the AVC comments are saying they use a filter to drain color from the Wall scenes, to make it look colder, so that that would explain Mel. Pretty good opening episode, though I wanted to see Arya of course, and apparently they'll be showcasing Dorne this year too. Really impressive the amount of effects work they have now. The statue being pulled down, the huge dragons, the upgraded Wall backdrop. Good stuff.
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Post by ganews on Apr 20, 2015 6:59:30 GMT -5
Arya's going over her list again on the steps of the House of Black and White: Cersei, the Mountain, Merrin Trant, Walder Frey
What happened to Illyn Paine? What specifically has she got against the Mountain and Merrin Trant (they're terrible but haven't acted directly against Arya)? Why isn't Roose Bolton on the list with Frey?
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Post by nowimnothing on Apr 20, 2015 8:04:38 GMT -5
Arya's going over her list again on the steps of the House of Black and White: Cersei, the Mountain, Merrin Trant, Walder Frey What happened to Illyn Paine? What specifically has she got against the Mountain and Merrin Trant (they're terrible but haven't acted directly against Arya)? Why isn't Roose Bolton on the list with Frey? Meryn Trant was leading the group of soldiers fighting Syrio in season 1. The Mountain was leading the men who were torturing people at Harrenhal before Tywin showed up. I am not sure why her list is shorter.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 11:38:20 GMT -5
Arya's going over her list again on the steps of the House of Black and White: Cersei, the Mountain, Merrin Trant, Walder Frey What happened to Illyn Paine? What specifically has she got against the Mountain and Merrin Trant (they're terrible but haven't acted directly against Arya)? Why isn't Roose Bolton on the list with Frey? I think the Illyn Paine omission was probably due to the actor's terminal cancer diagnosis and subsequent recovery(!!!!!), not sure about the rest. Just me or was anyone else SUPER relived that Selmy finally mentioned the fact that Dany's dad was a psychopathic monster? I feel like the "Hey girl your dad was called the Mad King for a reason, and those usurpers you're always groaning about were kinda sorta justified" conversation needs to happen somewhere around Yunkai. Note: I have been reading the books along with the show, but since the book timeline is out the window at this point I'm unsure which thread I should be posting in. I'll be super duper careful.
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Post by pairesta on Apr 21, 2015 8:14:05 GMT -5
Well, I was coming in to ask exactly about the last name on Arya's list, so thanks everyone.
I'm not on board with the "nothing's happening" camp that John Teti and others seem to be cultivating.
a) Because when I WAS in that camp, Joffrey died the very next episode, so I've learned my lesson b) I still think things are moving along nicely. I'm excited about seeing more of Braavos and now Dorne. Jamie has something to do at last, and he's got Bronn, one of my favorite (and therefore likely doomed) supporting characters with him. Cersei's going to be choking on her impotence soon enough. The Wall stuff is actually intriguing, and there's a looming fight to retake the Stark lands coming. Danaerys is learning new lessons and maturing every week. yeah, some stuff is definitely in a holding pattern for the season: Arya, and Varys and Tyrion are probably about due to meet some faction of Mysterious Bearded Men on their way to hook up with Danaerys.
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Post by ganews on Apr 21, 2015 8:26:06 GMT -5
People are going to yell "nothing's happening" at every episode that doesn't feature a world-upending plot point, sadly. It's not like there's no action. Brienne killed the hell out of those guys and gave her sweet warrior scream. Pod made the weakest throw captured on film since 50 Cent and pulled a sad when the knight came for him.
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Post by rimjobflashmob on Apr 21, 2015 9:06:30 GMT -5
Arya's going over her list again on the steps of the House of Black and White: Cersei, the Mountain, Merrin Trant, Walder Frey What happened to Illyn Paine? What specifically has she got against the Mountain and Merrin Trant (they're terrible but haven't acted directly against Arya)? Why isn't Roose Bolton on the list with Frey? Ilyn Payne was cut from the show because the actor playing him was diagnosed with cancer. From what I've heard, he's responding well to treatment.
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Post by rimjobflashmob on Apr 21, 2015 9:07:46 GMT -5
Also, Meryn Trant (presumably, as it happened offscreen) killed Syrio Forel, and The Mountain was the one in charge of the prisoners at Harrenhaal. Makes sense to me.
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Post by drjacoby on Apr 21, 2015 14:27:25 GMT -5
Arya's going over her list again on the steps of the House of Black and White: Cersei, the Mountain, Merrin Trant, Walder Frey What happened to Illyn Paine? What specifically has she got against the Mountain and Merrin Trant (they're terrible but haven't acted directly against Arya)? Why isn't Roose Bolton on the list with Frey? Ilyn Payne was cut from the show because the actor playing him was diagnosed with cancer. From what I've heard, he's responding well to treatment. That seems strange. Couldn't they just replace the actor? It's not like they haven't done that with several minor characters already (most jarringly in the case of Daario, who just seemed to turn into a completely different person between seasons).
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