Game of Thrones: non-book-reading thread

AHHHHHHHHHHHH that was such a bummer!

I took a break right before that final fight and thought "What do I think will happen?" And of course I had no idea, because building Oberyn up all season and making him awesome and then totally killing him is totally what would happen. That's a pretty cool thing about this show: even more than, like, Sopranos or The Wire, you really can't trust anyone to live.

(That said, I doubt Tyrion's going to die.)

Anyone else flash back to Inigo Montoya there, btw?

I started getting a bad feeling when he didn't kill that dude right away. He clearly had not learned The Comic Book Villain Lesson: don't stand around making speeches when your opponent is down.

Great episode, not just the final scene.

BTW, I have this theory that Jorah is now being sent back as a spy to the Lannisters and he and Dany have a whole thing planned.

I knew he was a goner from the moment he offered to fight. This show doesn't have the heroes win often.

But Goddamn it, that brain splatter was almost as bad as the Red Wedding. And It looks like Mr Tea is out for the count re: watching this show. "It's a waste of fucking time. I just get depressed and expect everyone to die after every episode."

I knew that Oberyn was one of my favorite characters but I don't think I realized the extent of it until his skull got crushed. I'm still devastated 36 hours later.

I really hope the other Martells are even half as awesome as him. Maybe an expanded role for that Sand lady?

I kept referring to Oberyn as Inigo Montoya, too, and afterward Wilford Brimley Explosion!!!!! said it was sort of GRRM's skewering of what would REALLY happen if Inigo had kept taunting ruthless killers instead of just killing them.

But augh, eugh, once the thumbs started going in I had to hide, auuuugh.

I'm pretty squeamish and the eye gouge/exploding head are two big ones that bother me (except in Fallout 3, when i can't snipe enough people's heads).

So I was literally shaking after that, even though I didn't see it. Just the sound, and Oberyn screaming right until the end, and then his body laying there, was enough. I didn't calm down and get to sleep until probably after midnight last night.

Edit:  Yeah, i think Jamie will have to save Tyrion at this point. Unless the Iron Bank/Stannis attack right during the execution.

Have you by any chance seen Deadwood? If not, don't.

I'm rather squeamish as well, so I get the literally shaking thing. That happened to me with 127 Hours. But this... I couldn't bring myself to look away for some reason. I think part of me was still hoping he'd get out of it somehow. Once the eye gouging started I was pretty much hyperventilating and I just burst into tears as soon as it cut to credits. Not even out of sadness, though I was sad because I liked Oberyn. More out of a release of tension, really. 

The Red Wedding is more horrifying in the context of the show, but the graphic nature of this was worse for me.

Okay, I don't get it. Why am I a dick?

Oh! No, I never thought of any of that. I, uh, actually didn't put two and two together regarding dwarfs and circuses. I was just thinking of that old adage of children running away with the circus to get away from shitty parents.

Good lord, if I ever meet Peter Dinklage, I'd be totally fucked from my social awkwardness.

Well now I'm thinking that Oberyn's death is just a catalyst in which to bring the Martels into the story. I certainly hope they don't hold it against poor Marcella.

I'm also starting to feel that one of the major themes of the series is that of children growing up to be better players of The Game than their parents. If you can't play the Game, you're destined for death. Arya, Sansa, Bran, and Jon have all now done things that would be considered dishonorable by their parents - but at the same time, these things that they've done aren't foolish like, say, Robb's decision to piss off Walder Frey and marry for love, which was totally not in line with The Game. They're all pretty shrewd means of staying alive and ahead of The Game. Arya fooling Tywin and using a faceless assassin to get out of camp, and creating a death list. Sansa treading water in King's Landing, and then going along with Lord Baelish's plans for social ascension (for now). Bran leaving behind family for magic and prophecy. Jon killing his mentor and joining the wildings for information. I'm unsure that Ned or Cat would've ever had the wherewithal to survive any of the shit their kids have been through.

Then we have Dany, who doesn't suffer madness like her late father, who took to Dothraki culture (unlike her brother), and when that didn't work out, morphed herself into a conqueror. 

Tyrion looks to be on the brink of destruction, but if he survives it will be because he isn't beholden to making his family name honorable - or beholden to the idea that simply being who he is somehow sullies the family. And Jaime is equally uncaring of the family name over what he feels he should do to protect his family as individuals.

I look forward to Shereen and Tommen's futures - will they be able to play the Game and get out from under the thumbs of the parental figures who seek to rule over them? (Personally, I think Tommen's future is bleak. He's a good kid born in horrible times to horrible people. The only way he'll survive the series is if he ends up quietly tucked away into a Maesterige.)

OMG, What if Jaime tries to sneak him out and running away with those little people from Joffrey's wedding is the only way to safety?

Let me just say that whatever the fuck 🐍 cahusserole 🐍 thinks she's up to, tagging me in the Spoiler Game of Thrones thread, it is not going to work because I'm not clicking anywhere near that place.

I fucked up is what happened.