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Post by Hawkguy on Nov 13, 2015 9:32:25 GMT -5
He decided he finally needed to pay back Jabba because they encountered a bounty hunter just before the events of empire that must've been a close call. I always figured that scene had been repeating frequently since the Battle of Yavin and Han kept getting guilt-tripped into sticking around for one more mission. Probably, I got the impression though that the instance before hoth was a bit more serious than the others |
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Nov 13, 2015 10:51:29 GMT -5
Probably, I got the impression though that the instance before hoth was a bit more serious than the others Just counting the movies, it's the first time Han Solo ran into someone looking to collect outside of Jabba's home planet of Tattooine (it was on Ord Mantell.) |
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Post by Powerthirteen on Nov 13, 2015 10:58:00 GMT -5
He decided he finally needed to pay back Jabba because they encountered a bounty hunter just before the events of empire that must've been a close call. I always figured that scene had been repeating frequently since the Battle of Yavin and Han kept getting guilt-tripped into sticking around for one more mission. Eventually Leia decided to get more efficient about the guilt-tripping and just married him. |
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Post by Generic Poster on Nov 13, 2015 10:58:30 GMT -5
Probably, I got the impression though that the instance before hoth was a bit more serious than the others Just counting the movies, it's the first time Han Solo ran into someone looking to collect outside of Jabba's home planet of Tattooine (it was on Ord Mantell.) Yeah, I assumed that Han thought that Jabba had decided the debt wasn't worth coming after him for (or at least not making serious efforts), but then they ran into that bounty hunter. |
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Nov 13, 2015 11:21:05 GMT -5
Just counting the movies, it's the first time Han Solo ran into someone looking to collect outside of Jabba's home planet of Tattooine (it was on Ord Mantell.) Yeah, I assumed that Han thought that Jabba had decided the debt wasn't worth coming after him for (or at least not making serious efforts), but then they ran into that bounty hunter. If he thought that was the case, why the hell was he still hanging out on Tattooine at the beginning of A New Hope? |
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Post by Generic Poster on Nov 13, 2015 11:31:09 GMT -5
Yeah, I assumed that Han thought that Jabba had decided the debt wasn't worth coming after him for (or at least not making serious efforts), but then they ran into that bounty hunter. If he thought that was the case, why the hell was he still hanging out on Tattooine at the beginning of A New Hope? Because he knew all of Jabba's Tattooine muscle couldn't hit a seated target from a distance of 18"? |
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Post by NerdInTheBasement on Nov 13, 2015 11:46:46 GMT -5
I actually got a little upset when I saw BB-8 go flying into the air after that explosion in that new commercial. Run little guy run!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2015 12:26:20 GMT -5
Just counting the movies, it's the first time Han Solo ran into someone looking to collect outside of Jabba's home planet of Tattooine (it was on Ord Mantell.) Yeah, I assumed that Han thought that Jabba had decided the debt wasn't worth coming after him for (or at least not making serious efforts), but then they ran into that bounty hunter. I read a compilation of the Star Wars newspaper comics that was supposed to cover that time period, including the encounter with the bounty hunter Han refers to. It was fucking terrible, and something like two years worth of comic strips, covering THREE YEARS of time between the two movies, seemed like events that would have taken a couple of weeks. Like, "This was Yavin, oh let's go here, oh there's a bad guy, oh we got away here's Hoth!" Stupid, stupid bullshit. |
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Nov 13, 2015 12:30:56 GMT -5
Yeah, I assumed that Han thought that Jabba had decided the debt wasn't worth coming after him for (or at least not making serious efforts), but then they ran into that bounty hunter. I read a compilation of the Star Wars newspaper comics that was supposed to cover that time period, including the encounter with the bounty hunter Han refers to. It was fucking terrible, and something like two years worth of comic strips, covering THREE YEARS of time between the two movies, seemed like events that would have taken a couple of weeks. Like, "This was Yavin, oh let's go here, oh there's a bad guy, oh we got away here's Hoth!" Stupid, stupid bullshit. Well, that's newspaper comics for you |
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Post by Generic Poster on Nov 13, 2015 12:59:44 GMT -5
Yeah, I assumed that Han thought that Jabba had decided the debt wasn't worth coming after him for (or at least not making serious efforts), but then they ran into that bounty hunter. I read a compilation of the Star Wars newspaper comics that was supposed to cover that time period, including the encounter with the bounty hunter Han refers to. It was fucking terrible, and something like two years worth of comic strips, covering THREE YEARS of time between the two movies, seemed like events that would have taken a couple of weeks. Like, "This was Yavin, oh let's go here, oh there's a bad guy, oh we got away here's Hoth!" Stupid, stupid bullshit. AB and Superb Owl 🦉, it reminds of this: Spider-Man |
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Post by Hawkguy on Nov 13, 2015 13:13:44 GMT -5
I read a compilation of the Star Wars newspaper comics that was supposed to cover that time period, including the encounter with the bounty hunter Han refers to. It was fucking terrible, and something like two years worth of comic strips, covering THREE YEARS of time between the two movies, seemed like events that would have taken a couple of weeks. Like, "This was Yavin, oh let's go here, oh there's a bad guy, oh we got away here's Hoth!" Stupid, stupid bullshit. AB and Superb Owl 🦉, it reminds of this: Spider-ManThat might've been one of the best moment of Spiderverse. Maybe tied with Spider-Monkey being shocked/confused at the existence of Spider-Ham |
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Post by Generic Poster on Nov 13, 2015 13:48:59 GMT -5
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Post by nowimnothing on Nov 13, 2015 14:48:00 GMT -5
Yeah, I assumed that Han thought that Jabba had decided the debt wasn't worth coming after him for (or at least not making serious efforts), but then they ran into that bounty hunter. If he thought that was the case, why the hell was he still hanging out on Tattooine at the beginning of A New Hope? Because even though he owed Jabba money, they were still on pretty good terms. In the deleted scene (that was replaced by Greedo) Han is able to talk his way past Jabba, promising him again that he will get his money. Jabba won't get any money if he kills Solo. Even if we ignore that deleted scene, Han clearly does not know about the bounty Jabba put on his head until Greedo tells him about it. |
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Post by Desert Dweller on Nov 14, 2015 1:35:08 GMT -5
Is this 3 year gap still considered canon? Or is this part of what Disney wiped out when they took control. I almost hope for the latter, because it seems ridiculous to me that the opening of "Empire Strikes Back" is 3 years after the end of "Star Wars".
Three years later, and Han only got that far with Leia? I'd really expect better from him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 2:22:37 GMT -5
I actually got a little upset when I saw BB-8 go flying into the air after that explosion in that new commercial. Run little guy run! BB-8 can't run, only roll! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 2:24:06 GMT -5
Is this 3 year gap still considered canon? Or is this part of what Disney wiped out when they took control. I almost hope for the latter, because it seems ridiculous to me that the opening of "Empire Strikes Back" is 3 years after the end of "Star Wars". Three years later, and Han only got that far with Leia? I'd really expect better from him. I don't know, I like han as much as the next person, but he always seemed to be more talk than walk. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 2:27:47 GMT -5
I read a compilation of the Star Wars newspaper comics that was supposed to cover that time period, including the encounter with the bounty hunter Han refers to. It was fucking terrible, and something like two years worth of comic strips, covering THREE YEARS of time between the two movies, seemed like events that would have taken a couple of weeks. Like, "This was Yavin, oh let's go here, oh there's a bad guy, oh we got away here's Hoth!" Stupid, stupid bullshit. AB and Superb Owl 🦉, it reminds of this: Spider-Man love how he has to talk about his Spidey sense tingling when he can clearly see with his eyes that something is amiss. |
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Post by nowimnothing on Nov 14, 2015 8:10:55 GMT -5
Is this 3 year gap still considered canon? Or is this part of what Disney wiped out when they took control. I almost hope for the latter, because it seems ridiculous to me that the opening of "Empire Strikes Back" is 3 years after the end of "Star Wars". Three years later, and Han only got that far with Leia? I'd really expect better from him. Empire is only two years after ANH. Jedi is about a year after that. That is pretty canon and they have already started filling in some of that time with new expanded universe materials. You have to remember that Han spent all the time between the end of Empire and the start of Jedi (enough time for them to track him down and for Luke to hone his skills) in carbonite. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 14:33:49 GMT -5
Is this 3 year gap still considered canon? Or is this part of what Disney wiped out when they took control. I almost hope for the latter, because it seems ridiculous to me that the opening of "Empire Strikes Back" is 3 years after the end of "Star Wars". Three years later, and Han only got that far with Leia? I'd really expect better from him. Empire is only two years after ANH. Jedi is about a year after that. That is pretty canon and they have already started filling in some of that time with new expanded universe materials. You have to remember that Han spent all the time between the end of Empire and the start of Jedi (enough time for them to track him down and for Luke to hone his skills) in carbonite. Sorry to be a nerd about this, but: Timeline of Galactic History0 BBY = The Battle of Yavin 3 ABY = The Battle of Hoth |
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Post by Desert Dweller on Nov 14, 2015 20:10:57 GMT -5
Empire is only two years after ANH. Jedi is about a year after that. That is pretty canon and they have already started filling in some of that time with new expanded universe materials. You have to remember that Han spent all the time between the end of Empire and the start of Jedi (enough time for them to track him down and for Luke to hone his skills) in carbonite. Sorry to be a nerd about this, but: Timeline of Galactic History0 BBY = The Battle of Yavin 3 ABY = The Battle of Hoth Which nowimnothing posted on the previous page. Hence all the posts of me asking if that 3 year gap was real. And I'm not referring to what happens in "Return of the Jedi" at all. (BTW, um, of course Han spent all that time in carbonite. Is that something that needs to be explained?) It is bizarre to me that in THREE years, Han and Leia never got past the longing looks stage. That makes no sense whatsoever. It also seems bizarre that three years went by before Han thought, "Gee, I should probably go pay Jabba back now". I mean, I get that a recent encounter with a bounty hunter prompted this. But, why is it that this happened THREE YEARS later? Is this something that was decided before the script for "Empire Strikes Back" was written? Or at any point while that movie was being filmed? Or is it just that no one thought about how the opening scenes with Han make no sense if that is happening 3 years later? Aaah, this is just too far down the Star Wars rabbit hole for me. There is a reason I never read any Star Wars novels. |
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Nov 14, 2015 22:53:03 GMT -5
Well it doesn't make sense now, because we know Luke and Leia are brother and sister. At the time 3 years of that being a little love triangle would have made sense.
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Post by nowimnothing on Nov 14, 2015 23:45:30 GMT -5
Which nowimnothing posted on the previous page. Hence all the posts of me asking if that 3 year gap was real. And I'm not referring to what happens in "Return of the Jedi" at all. (BTW, um, of course Han spent all that time in carbonite. Is that something that needs to be explained?) It is bizarre to me that in THREE years, Han and Leia never got past the longing looks stage. That makes no sense whatsoever. It also seems bizarre that three years went by before Han thought, "Gee, I should probably go pay Jabba back now". I mean, I get that a recent encounter with a bounty hunter prompted this. But, why is it that this happened THREE YEARS later? Is this something that was decided before the script for "Empire Strikes Back" was written? Or at any point while that movie was being filmed? Or is it just that no one thought about how the opening scenes with Han make no sense if that is happening 3 years later? Aaah, this is just too far down the Star Wars rabbit hole for me. There is a reason I never read any Star Wars novels. I always got the feeling they were somewhat of a couple by the time of Hoth. There was still some question about how close she was to Luke which is why Han figures he is out of the picture on Endor. |
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Post by Return of the Thin Olive Duke on Nov 15, 2015 0:16:07 GMT -5
Which nowimnothing posted on the previous page. Hence all the posts of me asking if that 3 year gap was real. And I'm not referring to what happens in "Return of the Jedi" at all. (BTW, um, of course Han spent all that time in carbonite. Is that something that needs to be explained?) It is bizarre to me that in THREE years, Han and Leia never got past the longing looks stage. That makes no sense whatsoever. It also seems bizarre that three years went by before Han thought, "Gee, I should probably go pay Jabba back now". I mean, I get that a recent encounter with a bounty hunter prompted this. But, why is it that this happened THREE YEARS later? Is this something that was decided before the script for "Empire Strikes Back" was written? Or at any point while that movie was being filmed? Or is it just that no one thought about how the opening scenes with Han make no sense if that is happening 3 years later? Aaah, this is just too far down the Star Wars rabbit hole for me. There is a reason I never read any Star Wars novels. I always got the feeling they were somewhat of a couple by the time of Hoth. There was still some question about how close she was to Luke which is why Han figures he is out of the picture on Endor.  |
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Post by rimjobflashmob on Nov 15, 2015 2:34:01 GMT -5
Well it doesn't make sense now, because we know Luke and Leia are brother and sister. At the time 3 years of that being a little love triangle would have made sense. That reveal in RotJ made some Luke-Leia EU material very, very uncomfortable. |
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Post by Return of the Thin Olive Duke on Nov 15, 2015 13:38:05 GMT -5
Guys, how can it snow on Hoth? A planet that's completely frozen wouldn't have an active water cycle.
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Post by Hawkguy on Nov 16, 2015 9:06:44 GMT -5
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Post by Generic Poster on Nov 16, 2015 9:37:19 GMT -5
Guys, how can it snow on Hoth? A planet that's completely frozen wouldn't have an active water cycle. And how does the ecosystem of a completely desert planet support a heavily-furred, elephant-sized creature? Or a giant, immobile creature like a sarlaac. Don't even get me started on the asteroid space-slug-thing. |
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Nov 16, 2015 10:12:23 GMT -5
Guys, how can it snow on Hoth? A planet that's completely frozen wouldn't have an active water cycle. And how does the ecosystem of a completely desert planet support a heavily-furred, elephant-sized creature? Or a giant, immobile creature like a sarlaac. Don't even get me started on the asteroid space-slug-thing. Well obviously the space slug survives on the asteroid by eating the totally explicable Mynock populations.
Now, onto a real question: Is all waste processing in the Star Wars universe bio-based, or did the Empire just overlook the one-eyed garbage creature infestation on their multi-billion credit space station at the same time they shrugged their shoulders at thermal exhaust port concerns?
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Post by nowimnothing on Nov 16, 2015 10:16:11 GMT -5
Guys, how can it snow on Hoth? A planet that's completely frozen wouldn't have an active water cycle. Maybe I can reassert my nerd credentials here. Hoth's three moons are large enough and close enough to exert quite a bit of tidal pressure. This results in a lot of seismic activity. Volcanoes and earthquakes either melt the ice or open up fissures to the liquid ocean below. Really a much warmer version of Titan or Europa. |
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Post by Generic Poster on Nov 16, 2015 12:45:54 GMT -5
And how does the ecosystem of a completely desert planet support a heavily-furred, elephant-sized creature? Or a giant, immobile creature like a sarlaac. Don't even get me started on the asteroid space-slug-thing. Well obviously the space slug survives on the asteroid by eating the totally explicable Mynock populations.
Now, onto a real question: Is all waste processing in the Star Wars universe bio-based, or did the Empire just overlook the one-eyed garbage creature infestation on their multi-billion credit space station at the same time they shrugged their shoulders at thermal exhaust port concerns?
See, I assumed the mynocks survived by eating whatever gets stuck between the space slugs teeth, like those birds that ride around on hippos or those little fish who swim around sharks' mouths. |
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