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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2015 22:09:19 GMT -5
I love this show but Gillian Anderson's stilted line delivery drives me up the wall. I really think that Bedelia is just varying levels of stoned all the time. Yeah, but it really irritates me for some reason. I get so impatient when she's talking. SPIT IT OUT, SCULLY.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2015 23:05:44 GMT -5
I love this show but Gillian Anderson's stilted line delivery drives me up the wall. I really think that Bedelia is just varying levels of stoned all the time. Wine and pills just don't mix.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2015 23:28:24 GMT -5
I really think that Bedelia is just varying levels of stoned all the time. Wine and pills just don't mix. Oh, you sweet summer child.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2015 23:46:57 GMT -5
Wine and pills just don't mix. Oh, you sweet summer child.
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Post by Post-Lupin on Aug 24, 2015 6:10:41 GMT -5
I really think that Bedelia is just varying levels of stoned all the time. Yeah, but it really irritates me for some reason. I get so impatient when she's talking. SPIT IT OUT, SCULLY. I find her over-deliberate enunciation almost unbearably sexy. Like she's tasting each syllable... which is rather apt.
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Post by Powerthirteen on Aug 24, 2015 10:42:56 GMT -5
I'm with Lupin. I love Bedelia's enunciation. It's like she's trying to convince everyone, including herself, that she's a bemused, distant observer of the madness in her life - a distancing that I have to imagine she developed as a way of coping with what Hannibal put her through in Florence.
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Post by Meth Lab Shenanigans on Aug 26, 2015 21:58:25 GMT -5
"Your girlfriend texted me and said it would be super funny if you murdered Will Graham's whole family."
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Aug 27, 2015 10:03:41 GMT -5
I just want to beg everyone who watches the finale before Saturday night to not spoil anything.
I mean, post away, but use spoiler tags for the love of god.
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Post by Powerthirteen on Aug 27, 2015 10:29:20 GMT -5
I just want to beg everyone who watches the finale before Saturday night to not spoil anything. I mean, post away, but use spoiler tags for the love of god. Reaching the end of the series is going to spoil my life.
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Post by 🐍 huss 🐍 on Aug 27, 2015 18:11:25 GMT -5
Can someone PM me a streaming link once it's available? I'm too scared to look anywhere (even this thread).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 20:24:19 GMT -5
I'm having some very strong feelings about the end of the series, and I'm not sure I can deal with them. It's only a two hour drive for me to get to Baltimore, though, and I hear there are some really top-notch therapists working down there.
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Post by Carade on Aug 27, 2015 23:27:01 GMT -5
My God, what a show.
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Post by Meth Lab Shenanigans on Aug 27, 2015 23:53:26 GMT -5
I didn't expect it. There were elements that I had wondered about, earlier in the season. But I didn't expect it. I don't even care if the show ends here. This was a flawless ending. Given that season 3, while excellent, had become a bit repetitive in terms of Will and Hannibal's relationship, I had been dreading the seemingly-inevitable ending in which Hannibal gets away with everything, the heroes are foiled again as always, and he comes for Alana in the stinger.
But that's not what happened.
My jaw dropped when Francis shot Hannibal and came through the window. I started making choking noises roughly around the time Will got stabbed in the face and my eyes started welling up when they killed Dolarhyde together and Will dragged them both off a fucking cliff, Riechenbach Falls-style. And the stinger of Bedelia having finally snapped and started EATING HERSELF was gleefully insane in a way this show has always excelled at, yet I never saw it coming.
My first thought after watching it was that it might have been the best episode of television I've ever seen. I'm sure some of that is just the adrenaline of it, but still... holy fuck, you guys. And there's so much now that, in retrospect, I recognize as foreshadowing: Hannibal being "changed" by Will in season 2, his conflicted relationship with his sister's love, Jack saying that Will had to be the one to kill him... hell, the season begins and ends with someone eating themselves.
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Post by Carade on Aug 28, 2015 0:10:41 GMT -5
And the stinger of Bedelia having finally snapped and started EATING HERSELF was gleefully insane in a way this show has always excelled at, yet I never saw it coming.
That table was set for three .
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Post by 🐍 huss 🐍 on Aug 28, 2015 0:19:27 GMT -5
Holy... jesus, joseph, mary, all the apostles, the venerable bede, hildegard of bingen, that was INTENSE. Thanks to Carade for passing me a link. Looking forward to watching it in HD on Saturday.
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Post by Meth Lab Shenanigans on Aug 28, 2015 0:38:02 GMT -5
And the stinger of Bedelia having finally snapped and started EATING HERSELF was gleefully insane in a way this show has always excelled at, yet I never saw it coming.
That table was set for three . I took it as her deciding to do it to herself before Will and Hannibal got to her, making a grave misjudgment about how things would go after Hannibal's release (understandably not expecting him to get Reichenbach'd), and being so batshit crazy at this point that she's totally okay with it.
In retrospect, her whole arc this season was building to her eating human meat. And how fitting that the first and last episodes of s3 feature someone getting their own body parts fed to them.
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Post by rimjobflashmob on Aug 28, 2015 1:10:03 GMT -5
Jaw, meet floor.
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Post by Meth Lab Shenanigans on Aug 28, 2015 1:10:49 GMT -5
Also...
MARGOLANA LIVED! MARGOLANA NOW, MARGOLANA FOREVER!
Margolana a hundred years dot com, etc...
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Post by rimjobflashmob on Aug 28, 2015 1:32:45 GMT -5
That was a real cliffhanger ending.
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Post by Powerthirteen on Aug 28, 2015 1:55:52 GMT -5
Hoooooooooly fuck. What's going to haunt me is -- how on God's green earth was this supposed to continue next season? The end of season 2 was nothing compared to this.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 20:33:15 GMT -5
When the Siouxsie track started, while Hannibal & Will were still (shall we say) in flagrante? I had to hit pause until the manic titters passed.
And the closing shot of Bedelia? No, Hannibal, that's a motherfucking mic drop.
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Post by Meth Lab Shenanigans on Aug 29, 2015 3:14:53 GMT -5
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Post by Powerthirteen on Aug 29, 2015 11:04:12 GMT -5
I didn't even think it was worth trying until midway through the second season. If you look carefully you can find me mocking the poncy Film School article about the meaning of its shot composition (mockery which I stand by.) Also, a very relevant part of a comment: "I kinda hope that somewhere in the middle of the season Fuller goes crazy and just says FUCK IT WE'RE GETTING CANCELLED ANYWAY."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 12:28:08 GMT -5
In fairness, it's easy to believe that the trailer made it look like another bog-standard procedural about serial killers, nevermind that it sounds like a terrible idea for a network TV show. And early praise from Todd (I think?) was what got me to watch from the beginning. Still: suck it, O'Neal! Also, a very relevant part of a comment: "I kinda hope that somewhere in the middle of the season Fuller goes crazy and just says FUCK IT WE'RE GETTING CANCELLED ANYWAY." Pretty prescient, give or take 1.5 seasons.
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Post by ComradeQuestions on Aug 29, 2015 14:17:09 GMT -5
Just watched it this morning and... That was pretty fantastic. I'm only familiar with the source material as far as my vague recollections of the Red Dragon movie, so they almost had me at the beginning with Dolarhyde shooting himself. Realigning everything to have the murder husbands finally consummate their murder marriage was a stroke of brilliance, though. Maybe not as devastating as the season 2 finale massacre, but still very satisfying.
The only two things I would've liked to se more of was: a) a bit more of Dolarhyde's abuse backstory, so you get a better feeling for why he was choosing families, and b) another scene with Molly and Walter in the last two episodes. Presumably we would've seen more of them in season 4, but alas.
So I know Fuller has said he had some crazy ideas for a season 4, but did he ever give any more details? Presumably both Will and Hannibal would survive the Reichenbach Fall (kudos for that term), but hopefully in a less "screw you, audience" way than Sherlock. As it is, it's still a good cliffhanger ending, but I'll always hope for at least an Amazon movie or something someday.
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Post by Meth Lab Shenanigans on Aug 29, 2015 15:11:05 GMT -5
Just watched it this morning and... That was pretty fantastic. I'm only familiar with the source material as far as my vague recollections of the Red Dragon movie, so they almost had me at the beginning with Dolarhyde shooting himself. Realigning everything to have the murder husbands finally consummate their murder marriage was a stroke of brilliance, though. Maybe not as devastating as the season 2 finale massacre, but still very satisfying.
The only two things I would've liked to se more of was: a) a bit more of Dolarhyde's abuse backstory, so you get a better feeling for why he was choosing families, and b) another scene with Molly and Walter in the last two episodes. Presumably we would've seen more of them in season 4, but alas.
So I know Fuller has said he had some crazy ideas for a season 4, but did he ever give any more details? Presumably both Will and Hannibal would survive the Reichenbach Fall (kudos for that term), but hopefully in a less "screw you, audience" way than Sherlock. As it is, it's still a good cliffhanger ending, but I'll always hope for at least an Amazon movie or something someday. I believe that Will, consumed with guilt over his failure to kill Hannibal and how much he enjoyed killing Dolarhyde, would become a drunk and ultimately be divorced by Molly. Hannibal would probably be trying to track down Alana, and Will would ultimately be pulled out of his alcoholism by the newfound mission he would have in stopping him.
Bedelia would be committed after eating her own leg, and she'd have many a sass-off with the Indestructible Dr. Chilton.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 15:37:11 GMT -5
I couldn't resist spoiling myself here, but am still looking forward to watching tonight.
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Post by Powerthirteen on Aug 29, 2015 15:36:57 GMT -5
Bedelia would have many a sass-off with the Indestructible Dr. Chilton.
The visual, in my head, of Bedelia in that ridiculous "whore of Babylon" gown (which I presume she will refuse to change out of), sitting in a cell like Hannibal's and exchanging shit talk with Dr. Chilton in a mobile oxygen chamber is really magnificent.
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Post by Powerthirteen on Aug 29, 2015 15:38:09 GMT -5
I couldn't resist spoiling myself here, but am still looking forward to watching tonight. You can't spoil that ending if you try. It's too good.
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Post by ComradeQuestions on Aug 29, 2015 17:17:24 GMT -5
My girlf's initial reaction was thinking they'd died in the fall, and NBC and Fuller were pulling a big trick on us about it needing renewal. So as one of the few proponents of "the Mad Men ending was intentionally ambiguous", I'm gonna go crazy if the majority opinion is "obviously Will and Hannibal died from the fall!" (Which, yeah, in reality maybe...)
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