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Post by liebkartoffel on Mar 28, 2021 22:13:07 GMT -5
I have a crush on You're Wrong About's Sarah Marshall's voice. And her in general, sure, but mostly her voice.
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Post by Prole Hole on Mar 29, 2021 3:33:11 GMT -5
I Am The Eggpod is a surprisingly enjoyable Beatles podcast that discusses an album an episode from Main Range and solo outings and will also touch on periphery like The Rutles or the Star Club tapes. Highly recommended.
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Post by Superb Owl π¦ on Mar 29, 2021 12:57:09 GMT -5
Well, it's finally happened. I've begun to find McElroy fandom absolutely insufferable. (Still love the McElroys themselves and the podcasts though) I guess I don't know your specific reasons for saying this, but I know I had to peace out of the main MBMBAM facebook group awhile back because it just got to be A LOT. I suppose it's possible that I've just aged into being the old close-minded reactionary but, good grief, EVERYTHING was a controversy. Beyond that...they are three guys who put on an entertaining show and seem to put some effort into being decent human beings; they aren't living saints sent to represent whatever small aspect of their deal you've latched onto. |
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Mar 29, 2021 15:06:46 GMT -5
Well, it's finally happened. I've begun to find McElroy fandom absolutely insufferable. (Still love the McElroys themselves and the podcasts though) I guess I don't know your specific reasons for saying this, but I know I had to peace out of the main MBMBAM facebook group awhile back because it just got to be A LOT. I suppose it's possible that I've just aged into being the old close-minded reactionary but, good grief, EVERYTHING was a controversy. Beyond that...they are three guys who put on an entertaining show and seem to put some effort into being decent human beings; they aren't living saints sent to represent whatever small aspect of their deal you've latched onto. It's this stuff exactly: everything being a controversy and every word they say being read into with deep, overblown analysis. There are people literally demanding Travis be fired. From a podcast. With his brothers. Because he joked about being attracted to a man when he is, in fact, straight. To the point where Travis had to out himself as having a mental illness as a form of apology and explanation.
And the same people go on and on about how those of us who still like the McElroys are clearly suffering from "parasocial relationships" when we're not the one writing paragraphs about every McElroy tweet ever. Ugh.
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Post by Superb Owl π¦ on Mar 29, 2021 15:10:49 GMT -5
I guess I don't know your specific reasons for saying this, but I know I had to peace out of the main MBMBAM facebook group awhile back because it just got to be A LOT. I suppose it's possible that I've just aged into being the old close-minded reactionary but, good grief, EVERYTHING was a controversy. Beyond that...they are three guys who put on an entertaining show and seem to put some effort into being decent human beings; they aren't living saints sent to represent whatever small aspect of their deal you've latched onto. It's this stuff exactly: everything being a controversy and every word they say being read into with deep, overblown analysis. There are people literally demanding Travis be fired. From a podcast. With his brothers. Because he joked about being attracted to a man when he is, in fact, straight. To the point where Travis had to out himself as having a mental illness as a form of apology and explanation.
And the same people go on and on about how those of us who still like the McElroys are clearly suffering from "parasocial relationships" when we're not the one writing paragraphs about every McElroy tweet ever. Ugh.
I apparently managed to blessedly miss this entire episode. Buckwild take from the same type of people who would probably give you a 10 minute lecture on sexuality being a spectrum, honestly. |
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Post by Superb Owl π¦ on Mar 31, 2021 13:50:41 GMT -5
I guess I don't know your specific reasons for saying this, but I know I had to peace out of the main MBMBAM facebook group awhile back because it just got to be A LOT. I suppose it's possible that I've just aged into being the old close-minded reactionary but, good grief, EVERYTHING was a controversy. Beyond that...they are three guys who put on an entertaining show and seem to put some effort into being decent human beings; they aren't living saints sent to represent whatever small aspect of their deal you've latched onto. It's this stuff exactly: everything being a controversy and every word they say being read into with deep, overblown analysis. There are people literally demanding Travis be fired. From a podcast. With his brothers. Because he joked about being attracted to a man when he is, in fact, straight. To the point where Travis had to out himself as having a mental illness as a form of apology and explanation.
And the same people go on and on about how those of us who still like the McElroys are clearly suffering from "parasocial relationships" when we're not the one writing paragraphs about every McElroy tweet ever. Ugh.
Based on this article, I have determined that TAZ was ultimately a mistake and only listening to MBMBAM and Wonderful the last two years was an extremely correct decision. Also, Again, maybe Iβm just not sensitive enough to marginalized groups but it is WILD to read that much into two words clearly meant only to keep live shows moving and light. McElroy VICE article |
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Mar 31, 2021 14:03:26 GMT -5
I have a crush on You're Wrong About's Sarah Marshall's voice. And her in general, sure, but mostly her voice. What is the premise of this podcast which apparently all of my friends are obsessed with? |
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Post by Superb Owl π¦ on Mar 31, 2021 14:10:19 GMT -5
I have a crush on You're Wrong About's Sarah Marshall's voice. And her in general, sure, but mostly her voice. What is the premise of this podcast which apparently all of my friends are obsessed with? Clearly itβs about contrarian takes on Jason Segel movies. |
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Post by liebkartoffel on Mar 31, 2021 15:56:27 GMT -5
I have a crush on You're Wrong About's Sarah Marshall's voice. And her in general, sure, but mostly her voice. What is the premise of this podcast which apparently all of my friends are obsessed with? Two reasonably charming people contextualize recent historical/media events (the Satanic panic, Y2K, Koko the Gorilla, the Janet Jackson wardrobe malfunction, etc.) and discuss how the public over/under-reacted at the time, as well as how popular misconceptions have crept into the public consciousness. As is often the case, the appeal is more about their banter and chemistry than the specific content of a given episode (though that's usually very well researched and interesting.) |
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Post by liebkartoffel on Mar 31, 2021 17:10:11 GMT -5
It's this stuff exactly: everything being a controversy and every word they say being read into with deep, overblown analysis. There are people literally demanding Travis be fired. From a podcast. With his brothers. Because he joked about being attracted to a man when he is, in fact, straight. To the point where Travis had to out himself as having a mental illness as a form of apology and explanation.
And the same people go on and on about how those of us who still like the McElroys are clearly suffering from "parasocial relationships" when we're not the one writing paragraphs about every McElroy tweet ever. Ugh.
Based on this article, I have determined that TAZ was ultimately a mistake and only listening to MBMBAM and Wonderful the last two years was an extremely correct decision. Also, Again, maybe Iβm just not sensitive enough to marginalized groups but it is WILD to read that much into two words clearly meant only to keep live shows moving and light. McElroy VICE article I remember the kerfuffle when the first TAZ graphic novel came out and that they got yelled at for making Taako's skin color blue as a form of "Latinx erasure," and Griffin gently pointed out that automatically assuming a character is brown-skinned just because Justin jokingly named him after a taco is kind of fucked up as well. Anyway, the headline of that article might as well be "FANS DISAFFECTED, SAY DISAFFECTED FANS." It's easy enough to dig up a few Twitter randos willing to say whatever you want them to say, but it doesn't make for particularly compelling reading. And the thing is, I pretty much agree. BrittaTravis is the worst. He's a cringey try-hard who radiates theater kid and middle kid energy. He's a crummy DM who eats up too much air time having long conversations with himself. He seems to be relentlessly dedicated to building up his brand as an "internet personality" in a manner I find off-putting. And yeah, he's performatively woke, as any 37-year-old middle class white man with purple hair and painted nails is wont to be. But...I don't doubt that his heart's in the right place, and I certainly don't think he should be fired from his own show, as I have an ounce of perspective. If I ever get too tired of him or the show, I'll simply stop listening in lieu of yelling at him about it on Twitter. Just, lol. I can't think of a better encapsulation of entitled fandom. It is, absolutely, always, definitively, the McElroys' fucking show, you weirdo. It is their creative output. It's a family show because they're a family and they produce it. No, you are not a member of their family. Just because you're regular listener, or you cosplayed as Angus McDonald, or you spend far too much time bitching up them on reddit doesn't mean they are at all obligated to listen to you. Fans are the worst. Stay away from them. |
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Post by Superb Owl π¦ on Mar 31, 2021 17:12:21 GMT -5
Based on this article, I have determined that TAZ was ultimately a mistake and only listening to MBMBAM and Wonderful the last two years was an extremely correct decision. Β Also, Again, maybe Iβm just not sensitive enough to marginalized groups but it is WILD to read that much into two words clearly meant only to keep live shows moving and light. McElroy VICE article I remember the kerfuffle when the first TAZ graphic novel came out and that they got yelled at for making Taako's skin color blue as a form of "Latinx erasure," and Griffin gently pointed out that automatically assuming a character is brown-skinned just because Justin jokingly named him after a taco is kind of fucked up as well. Anyway, the headline of that article might as well be "FANS DISAFFECTED, SAY DISAFFECTED FANS." It's easy enough to dig up a few Twitter randos willing to say whatever you want them to say, but it doesn't make for particularly compelling reading. And the thing is, I pretty much agree. BrittaTravis is the worst. He's a cringey try-hard who radiates theater kid and middle kid energy. He's a crummy DM who eats up too much air time having long conversations with himself. He seems to be relentlessly dedicated to building up his brand as an "internet personality" in a manner I find off-putting. And yeah, he's performatively woke, as any 37-year-old middle class white man with purple hair and painted nails is wont to be.Β But...I don't doubt that his heart's in the right place, and I certainly don't think he should be fired from his own show, as I have an ounce of perspective. If I ever get too tired of him or the show, I'll simply stop listening in lieu of yelling at him about it on Twitter. Just, lol. I can't think of a better encapsulation of entitled fandom. It is, absolutely, always, definitively, the McElroys' fucking show, you weirdo. It is their creative output. It's a family show because they're a family and they produce it. No, you are not a member of their family. Just because you're regular listener, or you cosplayed as Angus McDonald, or you spend far too much time bitching up them on reddit doesn't mean they are at all obligated to listen to you. Fans are the worst. Stay away from them. Itβs always fucking Travis though, isnβt it, lol |
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Mar 31, 2021 17:45:51 GMT -5
OK, so this is mostly off-topic, but I'm reading this McElroys article, and I came across the sentence
By what metric is this true? I know it was a pretty popular podcast within a fairly short time of starting out (as in, I remember it getting mentioned in the AVC's weekly podcast roundup a bunch ca. 2011 and 2012, but there's no way the show has fewer listeners now than it did in 2010. Before the pandemic hit, they were routinely selling out pretty large venues for live shows. This could only possibly be true in the sense that, maybe, within the first couple months of their first episode, they were hypothetically like #15 on iTunes "comedy podcast chart" or something, and now they're only like #41, or some such, but that could be entirely because the number of podcasts is vastly greater in 2021 than it was in 2010 when the medium itself was still fairly new and niche.
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Post by Superb Owl π¦ on Mar 31, 2021 18:45:11 GMT -5
OK, so this is mostly off-topic, but I'm reading this McElroys article, and I came across the sentence By what metric is this true?Β I know it was a pretty popular podcast within a fairly short time of starting out (as in, I remember it getting mentioned in the AVC's weekly podcast roundup a bunch ca. 2011 and 2012, but there's no way the show has fewer listeners now than it did in 2010.Β Before the pandemic hit, they were routinely selling out pretty large venues for live shows.Β This could only possibly be true in the sense that, maybe, within the first couple months of their first episode, they were hypothetically like #15 on iTunes "comedy podcast chart" or something, and now they're only like #41, or some such, but that could be entirely because the number of podcasts is vastly greater in 2021 than it was in 2010 when the medium itself was still fairly new and niche. The other thing is that Iβm pretty sure iTunes Charts are not based solely on downloads, but factor in other metrics that work in favor of newer, βhotterβ shows. Itβs an exceptionally bad thing to base that kind of statement on. |
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Mar 31, 2021 19:11:15 GMT -5
OK, so this is mostly off-topic, but I'm reading this McElroys article, and I came across the sentence By what metric is this true? I know it was a pretty popular podcast within a fairly short time of starting out (as in, I remember it getting mentioned in the AVC's weekly podcast roundup a bunch ca. 2011 and 2012, but there's no way the show has fewer listeners now than it did in 2010. Before the pandemic hit, they were routinely selling out pretty large venues for live shows. This could only possibly be true in the sense that, maybe, within the first couple months of their first episode, they were hypothetically like #15 on iTunes "comedy podcast chart" or something, and now they're only like #41, or some such, but that could be entirely because the number of podcasts is vastly greater in 2021 than it was in 2010 when the medium itself was still fairly new and niche. The other thing is that Iβm pretty sure iTunes Charts are not based solely on downloads, but factor in other metrics that work in favor of newer, βhotterβ shows. Itβs an exceptionally bad thing to base that kind of statement on. Oh, also, another thing. At one point, the author referred to fans of The Adventure Zone who have been listening to the show for "nearly a decade". Per my podcast app, the first episode of TAZ was released in 2014, so the show is only six years and a couple of months old. That is a long time in terms of a podcast fandom, but it is not "nearly a decade". |
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Mar 31, 2021 19:33:52 GMT -5
And here I am, having literally been listening to the McElroys for OVER a decade.
(And I still love Travis, though I understand the irritation).
Now for a REAL podcast fuckup, Oh No Ross and Carrie had Elizabeth Loftus on and while (rightfully) calling out Satanic Panic hysteria she also gleefully threw MeToo, campus rape survivors, and survivors in general under the bus with no pushback from Ross or Carrie.
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Post by Nudeviking on Apr 1, 2021 23:56:16 GMT -5
I started listening to a podcast called Black Cowboys. In it a dude and his dad talk about various black cowboys. It's pretty good if you like the history podcasts that give 40~60 minute accounts of the lives of historical figures you probably didn't learn all that much about in high school history class genre.
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Post by liebkartoffel on Jun 10, 2021 9:21:14 GMT -5
I'm excited Griffin's DMing again on The Adventure Zone, and the new premise is intriguing, but this "A Quiet Year" experiment has been a bit of a slog. It's cool that they're having these conversations, and I like the idea of them taking a systematic, collaborative approach to world building, but it's just not very podcast-able. Clint and Justin in particular seem to be champing at the bit to get to the roleplaying already, and despite the emphasis on collaboration I still feel this RPG-within-an-RPG is bringing out Griffin's control freak tendencies. There's a lot of him shooting down ideas and reminding everybody that they're not supposed to do characters yet, which does not make for particularly compelling listening.
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Post by Superb Owl π¦ on Jun 13, 2021 13:17:30 GMT -5
I just thought this was a really good Sporkful episode and maybe one of the best non-farm cases for right to repair Iβve ever heard. I enjoy Danβs βlight investigative journalismβ mode. Sporkful: McDonaldβs Broken Ice Cream Machines |
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Post by Superb Owl π¦ on Jun 13, 2021 13:19:21 GMT -5
I'm excited Griffin's DMing again on The Adventure Zone, and the new premise is intriguing, but this "A Quiet Year" experiment has been a bit of a slog. It's cool that they're having these conversations, and I like the idea of them taking a systematic, collaborative approach to world building, but it's just not very podcast-able. Clint and Justin in particular seem to be champing at the bit to get to the roleplaying already, and despite the emphasis on collaboration I still feel this RPG-within-an-RPG is bringing out Griffin's control freak tendencies. There's a lot of him shooting down ideas and reminding everybody that they're not supposed to do characters yet, which does not make for particularly compelling listening. Yea, the description sounds like an interesting game to play, but maybe not great to listen to? |
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Jun 13, 2021 20:00:48 GMT -5
I'm excited Griffin's DMing again on The Adventure Zone, and the new premise is intriguing, but this "A Quiet Year" experiment has been a bit of a slog. It's cool that they're having these conversations, and I like the idea of them taking a systematic, collaborative approach to world building, but it's just not very podcast-able. Clint and Justin in particular seem to be champing at the bit to get to the roleplaying already, and despite the emphasis on collaboration I still feel this RPG-within-an-RPG is bringing out Griffin's control freak tendencies. There's a lot of him shooting down ideas and reminding everybody that they're not supposed to do characters yet, which does not make for particularly compelling listening. Yea, the description sounds like an interesting game to play, but maybe not great to listen to? It is a VERY interesting game to play. Eat Up Martha and I played it to map out our novel a bit more and it was great. |
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Post by Dellarigg on Jun 14, 2021 15:05:35 GMT -5
I've listened to the first few episodes of Talking Sopranos, and I'm in two minds about it. It's hosted by Michael Imperioli (Christopher) and Steve Schirripa (Bobby). Imperioli is relaxed and affable, but maybe a little too keen to delve into his vast knowledge of film and theatre by giving us every off-off-Broadway credit of every cast member. Schirripa seems nervous and occasionally abrupt.
Maybe all that'll settle down. The off-screen detail is good, as is the analysis of the episodes. Looking forward to them interviewing Tony Sirico (Paulie), as well as just about everyone else. Of course, there's a huge ghost at the feast, but whaddaya gonna do?
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Jun 14, 2021 15:37:49 GMT -5
I've listened to the first few episodes of Talking Sopranos, and I'm in two minds about it. It's hosted by Michael Imperioli (Christopher) and Steve Schirripa (Bobby). Imperioli is relaxed and affable, but maybe a little too keen to delve into his vast knowledge of film and theatre by giving us every off-off-Broadway credit of every cast member. Schirripa seems nervous and occasionally abrupt. Maybe all that'll settle down. The off-screen detail is good, as is the analysis of the episodes. Looking forward to them interviewing Tony Sirico (Paulie), as well as just about everyone else. Of course, there's a huge ghost at the feast, but whaddaya gonna do? After I finish up a BrBa/BCS rewatch, I think I'm going to tackle The Sopranos next. Is this something that I'd be better off waiting to give a shot until after I've watched the entire show if I'd like to avoid spoilers? I would assume yes, given that the hosts, being cast members, are presumably making this more for fans than for people watching along for the first time? |
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Post by Dellarigg on Jun 14, 2021 16:19:21 GMT -5
I've listened to the first few episodes of Talking Sopranos, and I'm in two minds about it. It's hosted by Michael Imperioli (Christopher) and Steve Schirripa (Bobby). Imperioli is relaxed and affable, but maybe a little too keen to delve into his vast knowledge of film and theatre by giving us every off-off-Broadway credit of every cast member. Schirripa seems nervous and occasionally abrupt. Maybe all that'll settle down. The off-screen detail is good, as is the analysis of the episodes. Looking forward to them interviewing Tony Sirico (Paulie), as well as just about everyone else. Of course, there's a huge ghost at the feast, but whaddaya gonna do? After I finish up a BrBa/BCS rewatch, I think I'm going to tackle The Sopranos next. Is this something that I'd be better off waiting to give a shot until after I've watched the entire show if I'd like to avoid spoilers? I would assume yes, given that the hosts, being cast members, are presumably making this more for fans than for people watching along for the first time? You assume right. The podcast is designed for fans rewatching during lockdown - you rewatch an episode, then you listen to the podcast on it. That said, I don't think I've noticed any egregious spoilers yet, though I'm only about three or four in. I myself have just this year watched the whole series through (I only watched it intermittently when it was shown here at the time, tucked away on a small channel late at night) and think it's every bit the masterpiece it's made out to be, but I'm not going back to the start for the sake of this podcast. So maybe I'm not getting the full experience. |
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Jun 15, 2021 8:30:19 GMT -5
I can't decide if I like The Friendship Onion enough to keep listening. Both Billy and Dom are charming as heck of course but they get so SHRILL sometimes it actually hurts my ears.
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Post by GumTurkeyles on Jun 24, 2021 12:05:24 GMT -5
I'm excited Griffin's DMing again on The Adventure Zone, and the new premise is intriguing, but this "A Quiet Year" experiment has been a bit of a slog. It's cool that they're having these conversations, and I like the idea of them taking a systematic, collaborative approach to world building, but it's just not very podcast-able. Clint and Justin in particular seem to be champing at the bit to get to the roleplaying already, and despite the emphasis on collaboration I still feel this RPG-within-an-RPG is bringing out Griffin's control freak tendencies. There's a lot of him shooting down ideas and reminding everybody that they're not supposed to do characters yet, which does not make for particularly compelling listening. Yea, the description sounds like an interesting game to play, but maybe not great to listen to? I've been enjoying it, but kind of for the ability to slightly tune out and come back in knowing I haven't missed much. It's very low stakes, and there's not any suspense for what will happen next; just curiosity. I expect that will change when the actual story starts, which will be in 2 weeks. |
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Post by Prole Hole on Sept 11, 2021 13:05:00 GMT -5
Myself and my best friend from university have just started a Beatles podcast, where we are going to go through their entire back catalogue on a track by track basis. beatlesstuffology.podbean.comIt should be on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google, Amazon, Pandora etc and of course at the site. So come check out the most revolutionary podcast idea of all - two old white guys talking about The Beatles! |
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Post by liebkartoffel on Nov 9, 2021 9:47:19 GMT -5
Adventure Zone: Ethersea has been great so far. I've been enjoying the more episodic/mini-arc approach, and I really hope Griffin suppresses his JRPG instincts this time and they don't try to ramp up to to some grand world-saving narrative. I'm a little annoyed that Justin is yet again playing a chaos agent who doesn't give a fuck, but the character dynamic is otherwise solid.
Meanwhile, I don't know if I'm getting a little tired of MBMBaM or if the McElroys are getting a little tired of MBMBaM, or both, but I definitely get the sense they're going through the motions. For one, they seem to be going out of their way to avoid the whole "advice show" aspect--and to be fair, I wouldn't be surprised if they're worried they'd just be repeating themselves at this point, but fewer listener emails means more 20-minute not particularly funny digressions dunking on Papa John or what have you.
Otherwise, my current rotation is The Besties, No Such Thing as a Fish, and the current season of You're Dead to Me.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Nov 13, 2021 10:43:00 GMT -5
ngl, at least half the reason I haven't been listening to the McElroys lately is the loan shark ad thing. I find the near constant mini-controversies surrounding the McElroys mostly frustrating. There are indeed some things that are genuinely not-great wrt representation in their shows and many of them deserved to be addressed (in addition to a handful of genuinely shitty jokes and remarks in the very early days of MBMBAM), but the controversies are I think largely due to people both putting three affable comedians on a pedestal, treating them as near saint-like figures (when again, they are comedians with backgrounds in video games journalism and theatrical carpentry and not like moral philosophy or something), and at the same time developing an unhealthy parasocial relationship with podcast hosts who are not actually their friends (though on this latter part, this is actively encouraged by the culture that Maximum Fun seems to cultivate). But the loan shark ad was a genuinely fucked up money grab, and the fact that it is seemingly not even near the top 10 in terms of McElroy controversies in terms of the backlash it generated is kind of depressing. None of the other problematic things the McElroys have said on their show has been something that materially harms other people, but the brothers apparently do not give a shit. Anyway, I think dogs should vote. |
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Nov 13, 2021 16:46:25 GMT -5
I'm just exhausted that people have to make a thing out of enjoying (or not enjoying) a goddamn podcast. Let people like things, Jesus christ.
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