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Post by ganews on Sept 8, 2015 1:35:38 GMT -5
The ongoing inability of some writers, particularly Erik Adams, to turn in their weak episode-summary reviews of HBO shows within three hours of airtime.
The useless reviews of shows the writer admittedly didn't like or didn't understand - see The Brink.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2015 1:48:21 GMT -5
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Post by Tellyfier on Sept 8, 2015 2:18:45 GMT -5
Letting us comment on Savage Love. It won't end well.
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Post by Pastafarian on Sept 8, 2015 8:58:49 GMT -5
She was interviewing some neo communist musician about why he loves Fidel Castro so much. She says to him 'Yeah, but he's dead." or something almost as confident. He instantly agreed with her which was pretty funny. I always forget the guy's name, I'll have to see if I can track it down. The weird part is she seems to have done some homework on the topic, yet is completely wrong on such an easily verifiable fact. Maybe she'd just finished using Leonard Pierce's time machine. EDIT: Here it is: www.avclub.com/article/indie-rock-statesman-ian-svenonius-why-he-loves-fi-203930I remember that comments section, and find myself in it, 'defending' Marah - since Castro is referred to in the present tense, I thought some kind of editing fuck up had happened, and the 'he did die' line was meant to refer to someone else. I won't defend this very hard, though. You could be on to something. I'm not sure. He says the mafia and the CIA "haven't succeeded" in killing Castro, she says "Not that we know of, he did die." he then goes on to talk about his body perhaps being sabotaged. Tough to say. When I initially read it it seemed pretty clear cut, but you are right about present tense being used elsewhere in the interview. If it were a screw up in editing though, then why not a correction after the fact? |
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Post by Tellyfier on Sept 8, 2015 9:08:31 GMT -5
Read it and some comments again. I think YOLO swaggins (not first but if you sort by oldest pretty on top) has it right. Neither of them is being serious, the whole interview is a joke.
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Post by Dellarigg on Sept 8, 2015 9:35:13 GMT -5
I remember that comments section, and find myself in it, 'defending' Marah - since Castro is referred to in the present tense, I thought some kind of editing fuck up had happened, and the 'he did die' line was meant to refer to someone else. I won't defend this very hard, though. You could be on to something. I'm not sure. He says the mafia and the CIA "haven't succeeded" in killing Castro, she says "Not that we know of, he did die." he then goes on to talk about his body perhaps being sabotaged. Tough to say. When I initially read it it seemed pretty clear cut, but you are right about present tense being used elsewhere in the interview. If it were a screw up in editing though, then why not a correction after the fact? My guess is/was they jumped from discussing Castro to Hugo Chavez, but a couple of lines went astray when the article went up. But yeah, the lack of an errata slip is shoddy. |
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Post by Buon Funerale Amigos on Sept 8, 2015 9:39:12 GMT -5
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Post by Dellarigg on Sept 8, 2015 9:45:12 GMT -5
You don't have to scroll too far down the comments of this one to find HDB being very HDB. |
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Post by Ron Howard Voice on Sept 8, 2015 10:26:36 GMT -5
THIS. I haven't been back since. What have you replaced it with, for your arts coverage fix? |
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Post by heroboy on Sept 8, 2015 11:03:25 GMT -5
At least that occasionally (very rarely, I mean) has something cool. They linked to the Archidirector recently and that was pretty awesome. Yeah, there's the odd gem, but not near so frequently as to justify the feature. When it used to be one every day or two, they had a much better hit rate, but now there are like 8 or 9 per day and the majority are just utter crap. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2015 11:10:21 GMT -5
I'm not saying that the comments section wouldn't have been horrible, but there was something about how they completely ignored the whole thing with Lena Dunham and her sister that really seemed wrong.
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Post by Powerthirteen on Sept 8, 2015 11:26:03 GMT -5
Letting Modell refer to the saxophone solo in "Jungleland" as a "strutting cheese factory." MONSTER!
Also, I agree with Genevieve's thoughts on Ghostbusters and was glad to discover I wasn't alone. Can we have an "It gets better" campaign for people with non-normative opinions on Ghostbusters?
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Post by The Stuffingtacular She-Hulk on Sept 8, 2015 11:31:07 GMT -5
John Teti should start a campaign demanding a correction. John Teti should start by acknowledging his article defending the Patriots was total horseshit. |
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Post by Hawkguy on Sept 8, 2015 11:57:11 GMT -5
John Teti should start a campaign demanding a correction. John Teti should start by acknowledging his article defending the Patriots was total horseshit. that was likely the idea |
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Post by Albert Fish Taco on Sept 8, 2015 11:57:53 GMT -5
"We think that DAWES review should be included as a poll option, and you should too!"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2015 12:44:47 GMT -5
This coming from the site’s music editor is pretty ridiculous For whatever reason, I didn't realize Marah was the site's music editor. This probably explains why I no longer care about the AVC's music coverage as they skew hard into ten page long Taylor Swift think pieces. |
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Post by Powerthirteen on Sept 8, 2015 13:59:11 GMT -5
This coming from the site’s music editor is pretty ridiculous For whatever reason, I didn't realize Marah was the site's music editor. This probably explains why I no longer care about the AVC's music coverage as they skew hard into ten page long Taylor Swift think pieces. Whoa, there are Taylor Swift thinkpieces there I haven't read?!? If only the search function wasn't steaming shit so I could find and enjoy them! |
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Post by Pastafarian on Sept 8, 2015 17:00:56 GMT -5
Read it and some comments again. I think YOLO swaggins (not first but if you sort by oldest pretty on top) has it right. Neither of them is being serious, the whole interview is a joke. I think you're referring to the Castro article here. There's a comment from Marah herself addressing the idea that it was all just a laugh where she says he was absolutely being serious (she compares him to people she knows who believe in the Illuminati) so unless that was just an extended part of the gag I don't know about the "it was all just a joke" theory. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2015 21:58:35 GMT -5
My dark horse write-in choice is when Mike D'Angelo, that ever aggravating "ain't I a stinker?!" contrarian, argues how the single-shot car ambush scene in Children of Men - one of the best films of the 2000s and the most striking moment in a film the AV Club itself named a top ten movie of the decade - is awful because it "suffer(s) from a basic misunderstanding about just how cinema—and the human visual system, for that matter — works."
That's only the most eye-rolling example, but in general though I always admire D'Angelo's writing, his tendency to draw universal edicts from minutiae that bothers him personally is always aggravating. Another particularly awful one is his column in the same series focusing on Good Will Hunting's hokey scene between Robin Williams and Matt Damon to illustrate why film should therefore never, ever, ever depict therapists or therapy on screen. Give me a fucking break - it's an arguably ridiculous scene, but give it a rest with your dopey aphorisms about why this means the entire topic is heretofore cutoff from film.
On another topic: Leonard Pierce was a blunder, but in a different way that was raised IMO. Without question it was an incredibly stupid fuck up, and he should have faced some type of consequence for it. But to be perfectly honest, I think a suspension or something comparable would have sufficed - I feel strongly that the site is unequivocally worse for not having him on staff. He was a tremendous pop culture writer, and his voice right now especially after so much turnover would without a doubt elevate the AV Club.
Otherwise, I gotta stick up for Marah! I really enjoy her - in fact she's one of my favorite writers there. A lot of that relates to her Pete & Pete coverage (which was just fantastic), but I have always truly enjoyed what she contributed.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2015 22:41:29 GMT -5
Another particularly awful one is his column in the same series focusing on Good Will Hunting's hokey scene between Robin Williams and Matt Damon to illustrate why film should therefore never, ever, ever depict therapists or therapy on screen. The Sopranos, man. Never should have happened! |
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Post by Ron Howard Voice on Sept 8, 2015 23:00:43 GMT -5
I have a sudden urge to get really wine-drunk and post a rant listing all the big blunders King George III made in driving us away.
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Sept 8, 2015 23:26:25 GMT -5
My dark horse write-in choice is when Mike D'Angelo, that ever aggravating "ain't I a stinker?!" contrarian, argues how the single-shot car ambush scene in Children of Men - one of the best films of the 2000s and the most striking moment in a film the AV Club itself named a top ten movie of the decade - is awful because it "suffer(s) from a basic misunderstanding about just how cinema—and the human visual system, for that matter — works." That's only the most eye-rolling example, but in general though I always admire D'Angelo's writing, his tendency to draw universal edicts from minutiae that bothers him personally is always aggravating. Another particularly awful one is his column in the same series focusing on Good Will Hunting's hokey scene between Robin Williams and Matt Damon to illustrate why film should therefore never, ever, ever depict therapists or therapy on screen. Give me a fucking break - it's an arguably ridiculous scene, but give it a rest with your dopey aphorisms about why this means the entire topic is heretofore cutoff from film. On another topic: Leonard Pierce was a blunder, but in a different way that was raised IMO. Without question it was an incredibly stupid fuck up, and he should have faced some type of consequence for it. But to be perfectly honest, I think a suspension or something comparable would have sufficed - I feel strongly that the site is unequivocally worse for not having him on staff. He was a tremendous pop culture writer, and his voice right now especially after so much turnover would without a doubt elevate the AV Club. Otherwise, I gotta stick up for Marah! I really enjoy her - in fact she's one of my favorite writers there. A lot of that relates to her Pete & Pete coverage (which was just fantastic), but I have always truly enjoyed what she contributed. I'll stick up for Marah too. She's a fantastic interviewer, both to read and to actually be interviewed by. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 7:39:37 GMT -5
I think she's probably a very nice person who'd be cool to have a beer with, and I don't think she's a bad writer at all - I just feel increasingly like there's very little music coverage at the AVC that interests me, which makes me sad because I discovered a lot of music I like with the older iterations of the site. I don't know how the AVC's structures and editors dictate coverage, so I don't lay it entirely on Marah, but I do feel like her being the editorial guiding hand may have something to do with it given how much I seem to diverge from her taste and viewpoints. And to be fair, the AVC is hardly the only site whose music coverage doesn't do a thing for me these days.
Also, not a fan of Hatesong.
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Post by Post-Lupin on Sept 9, 2015 9:18:24 GMT -5
Have suddenly realised "hiring Phil Dyess-Nugent" is somehow not on this list. Which is an oversight: recall the heady days of him reviewing Person Of Interest - a show he actually liked, according to a For Our Consideration - and getting major plot or other points completely wrong on a weekly basis? Good times.
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Post by The Tuck Pendleton Machine on Sept 9, 2015 10:58:52 GMT -5
Letting Phipps go.
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Post by Baron von Costume on Sept 9, 2015 11:02:50 GMT -5
Have suddenly realised "hiring Phil Dyess-Nugent" is somehow not on this list. Which is an oversight: recall the heady days of him reviewing Person Of Interest - a show he actually liked, according to a For Our Consideration - and getting major plot or other points completely wrong on a weekly basis? Good times. His contributions to the major group pieces where he attacks a show/film despite either admitting to not knowing much about it or not having paid much attention to it. God I hate that guy. |
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Post by Albert Fish Taco on Sept 9, 2015 11:41:00 GMT -5
I have a sudden urge to get really wine-drunk and post a rant listing all the big blunders King George III made in driving us away. Oddly enough one of the individuals blamed for the events leading to the Revolutionary War was George III's former tutor and one-time Prime Minister, the Earl .................................................. OF BUTE |
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Post by Powerthirteen on Sept 9, 2015 12:06:51 GMT -5
Also, not a fan of Hatesong. Hatesong is a bad feature. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2015 0:30:44 GMT -5
Also, not a fan of Hatesong. Hatesong is a bad feature. It is bad and not what I want out of the site, but what can they do? Clearly every single Hatesong gets ridiculous amounts of comments probably in excess of what most every other feature receives, and even if some or many or most or all of those are comments are about how much they dislike Hatesong, clicks are clicks. Everyone complains about it, but in all likelihood our complaints are keeping it afloat. |
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Post by Nudeviking on Sept 10, 2015 0:49:14 GMT -5
My dark horse write-in choice is when Mike D'Angelo, that ever aggravating "ain't I a stinker?!" contrarian, argues how the single-shot car ambush scene in Children of Men - one of the best films of the 2000s and the most striking moment in a film the AV Club itself named a top ten movie of the decade - is awful because it "suffer(s) from a basic misunderstanding about just how cinema—and the human visual system, for that matter — works." That's only the most eye-rolling example, but in general though I always admire D'Angelo's writing, his tendency to draw universal edicts from minutiae that bothers him personally is always aggravating. Another particularly awful one is his column in the same series focusing on Good Will Hunting's hokey scene between Robin Williams and Matt Damon to illustrate why film should therefore never, ever, ever depict therapists or therapy on screen. Give me a fucking break - it's an arguably ridiculous scene, but give it a rest with your dopey aphorisms about why this means the entire topic is heretofore cutoff from film. On another topic: Leonard Pierce was a blunder, but in a different way that was raised IMO. Without question it was an incredibly stupid fuck up, and he should have faced some type of consequence for it. But to be perfectly honest, I think a suspension or something comparable would have sufficed - I feel strongly that the site is unequivocally worse for not having him on staff. He was a tremendous pop culture writer, and his voice right now especially after so much turnover would without a doubt elevate the AV Club. Otherwise, I gotta stick up for Marah! I really enjoy her - in fact she's one of my favorite writers there. A lot of that relates to her Pete & Pete coverage (which was just fantastic), but I have always truly enjoyed what she contributed. All my joking about John Titor and time machines aside, I agree that shitcanning Pierce for what he did was kind of overkill. It's not like he was a cop falsifying police reports and because of his actions hundreds of convictions could be overturned...he was a guy who wrote a "It was pretty good," book review for a book he didn't read. I think he was probably the staff member whose pop culture tastes skewed closest to my own, so having him off the staff made me sad...and I masked this sadness with japes about Deloreans and Leonard Pierce accidentally causing his own mother to fall in love with him. |
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