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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Jan 24, 2019 22:08:17 GMT -5
It's no "'24 Karat Magic' Performed With a Set of Flutes Made Out of Carrots." But the guy is cute.
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Post by ArchieLeach on Jan 25, 2019 6:48:48 GMT -5
The Dutch have a yearly tradition. One of their radio stations plays the Top 2000 of all time as voted on by listeners between Christmas and New Year's Day. One and Two are generally "Bohemian Rhapsody" and "Hotel California."
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2019 15:37:17 GMT -5
The Dutch have a yearly tradition. One of their radio stations plays the Top 2000 of all time as voted on by listeners between Christmas and New Year's Day. One and Two are generally "Bohemian Rhapsody" and "Hotel California."
Huh, the Dutch really have a yen for Deep Purple's "Child in Time".
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Post by Ben Grimm on Jan 25, 2019 16:10:40 GMT -5
The Dutch have a yearly tradition. One of their radio stations plays the Top 2000 of all time as voted on by listeners between Christmas and New Year's Day. One and Two are generally "Bohemian Rhapsody" and "Hotel California."
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Post by Jean Luc de Lemur on Jan 25, 2019 18:00:24 GMT -5
Roy Batty's Pet Dove Man, if this were ~2008 I’d be all over that—also because I hadn’t heard Africa (or had heard it and didn’t know it’s name; in any event it wasn’t a meme). Respect the craft, not the art.
@archieleach From a couple of roadtrips I can assure you that Dutch radio is bleeeaaakkk and that list doesn’t surprise me at all.
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Post by Prole Hole on Feb 2, 2019 13:32:50 GMT -5
The Dutch have a yearly tradition. One of their radio stations plays the Top 2000 of all time as voted on by listeners between Christmas and New Year's Day. One and Two are generally "Bohemian Rhapsody" and "Hotel California."
This, sadly, is something I am all too familiar with, and may I just say it accurately captures Dutch taste in music perfectly - unspeakably bland or glaringly obvious or both. Since it was Dutch radio that originally inspired this never-gonna-die-is-it? thread this seems entirely appropriate.
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Post by Gamblin' Telly on Feb 5, 2019 9:20:22 GMT -5
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Post by Prole Hole on Feb 5, 2019 9:23:06 GMT -5
Thread uptime: 3¼ years.
Though this is great. More terrible, awful, bad, not-good music should be played on tropical fruit, if only so I don't have to hear the original.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2019 21:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Gamblin' Telly on Feb 22, 2019 4:52:01 GMT -5
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Post by Crash Test Dumbass on Feb 23, 2019 9:37:48 GMT -5
A peculiarity of YouTube is that sometimes you can tell from the preview image that you have no desire whatsoever to watch the video. This was one such video. I clicked anyway; I was right.
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Post by Celebith on Feb 23, 2019 17:46:35 GMT -5
The Dutch have a yearly tradition. One of their radio stations plays the Top 2000 of all time as voted on by listeners between Christmas and New Year's Day. One and Two are generally "Bohemian Rhapsody" and "Hotel California."
New York's 102.7 FM / WNEW was a classic rock / AOR station through the 70s and 80s, and had an annual 'Top 1027 rock and roll songs of all time, as voted by YOU, the listeners'. The top song was almost always Stairway, followed by Born to Run, but one year, they swapped places. I don't think Imagine ever made the top 10, though, which is good, because that's the worst song of all time.
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Post by Prole Hole on Feb 25, 2019 6:58:19 GMT -5
The Dutch have a yearly tradition. One of their radio stations plays the Top 2000 of all time as voted on by listeners between Christmas and New Year's Day. One and Two are generally "Bohemian Rhapsody" and "Hotel California."
New York's 102.7 FM / WNEW was a classic rock / AOR station through the 70s and 80s, and had an annual 'Top 1027 rock and roll songs of all time, as voted by YOU, the listeners'. The top song was almost always Stairway, followed by Born to Run, but one year, they swapped places. I don't think Imagine ever made the top 10, though, which is good, because that's the worst song of all time. I don't think that Imagine is the worst song of all time - it's not a Bruno Mars song, after all - but yes, it's up there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 4:14:29 GMT -5
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Post by Prole Hole on Mar 29, 2019 4:18:56 GMT -5
Worst. Human. Ever.
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Post by Prole Hole on Apr 11, 2019 2:16:51 GMT -5
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Jun 13, 2019 0:17:57 GMT -5
Prole HoleUrgent "Africa" news, Prole! From an article on the Uber Eats Cravings Report, the following request made of an Uber Eats delivery person: '"This is my boyfriend's Valentine's gift. It would be amazing if you could play "Africa" by Toto when you deliver the donuts. You don't have to play the whole thing, really just the chorus."'
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Post by Prole Hole on Jun 18, 2019 10:27:25 GMT -5
Prole Hole Urgent "Africa" news, Prole! From an article on the Uber Eats Cravings Report, the following request made of an Uber Eats delivery person: '"This is my boyfriend's Valentine's gift. It would be amazing if you could play "Africa" by Toto when you deliver the donuts. You don't have to play the whole thing, really just the chorus."' Come, Armageddon, come
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Jun 18, 2019 21:20:20 GMT -5
@wearytraveler and I were discussing this - why has "I Want It That Way" seen such a sudden resurgence in popular culture? How has it become the millennial "Africa" ? I thought I would ask you this, Prole.
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Post by Prole Hole on Jun 22, 2019 4:24:20 GMT -5
@wearytraveler and I were discussing this - why has "I Want It That Way" seen such a sudden resurgence in popular culture? How has it become the millennial "Africa" ? I thought I would ask you this, Prole. I am not sure I know enough about millennials to be able answer this question completely authoritatively, though I'll have a go. I'd certainly say I Want It That Way is a contender for the millenial Africa - certainly it's a not-very-good song, sung by a largely but not quite exclusively talent-free band that has a couple of hooks that embed themselves in your brain. Being old, I'm a Gen X-er which means I remember both of these songs being released. Africa, despite being a huge hit, didn't really make that much of a cultural impact at the time - big for a few weeks on the radio then away it went. It's resurgence still baffles me to an extent, though I suspect it's at least in part due to the Authenticity Wars that us Gen-Xers fought in the 90's - some of us are still scarred by it. Authenticity was critical to musical success during that period - I'm thinking especially of Nirvana, R.E.M., Smashing Pumpkins, U2, Pearl Jam as well as a host of second-tier grunge bands here - so it was almost inevitable that the reaction against that would be irony. And liking a naff song like Africa fits in with that - the use of the song by Jeffstar (from Chuck, visible elsewhere in this thread) perfectly encapsulates this - they're clearly taking the piss, but also sort of invested in it. Repetition has codified that into the place we're at now, whereby it's a song that seems to have genuine appreciation (despite, you know, the fact its awful) - time has stripped the irony flesh away from the appreciation bone and left the song exposed and, well, liked. I suspect, therefore, that the same mechanism now applies to I Want It That Way, it's just occurred over a shorter period of time. When I Want It That Way was released I mostly remembering giggling with my gay friends, since the emphasis we put on it was very much, "I want it that way" tee hee, but again it had little cultural impact beyond it being "this month's big hit by some random boy band of pretty-but-bland teens". The resurgence of both songs will of course be linked to general nostalgia - I Want It That Way was released in 1999, so if you were a young or mid-teen then (Backstreet Boys primary audience that weren't overly-optimistic gin-soaked suburban moms) you're in your mid-30s now, likely settling down with a family, marriage or kids, staring down the barrel of 40 and maybe doing high-school reunions. Something is going to flip the nostalgia switch and why not a cheesy old song that you vaguely remember and maybe you can do a couple of dance moves to? Perhaps fifteen years from now we'll have the same thing about, I dunno, Price Tag or something (I think there's a fair chance that Outkast's Hey Ya might fill this slot already actually, and though it's a song I personally don't like it's way fucking better than Africa and I Want It That Way, or indeed Price Tag), but I'm pretty sure this isn't a phenomenon that's going away. Whether shifts in how music is consumed will impact all of this I don't know - otherwise I'd be working for the music industry consuming 80's quantities of drugs rather than skiving off work on the TIF - but I suspect not very much. Despite the massive fragmentation of the music industry there's still odd songs that catch the zeitgeist and though the method of dissemination may be different - streaming rather than traditional Top 40 radio and chart rundowns - the event will still occur. It's like brief moments of order emerging from otherwise-chaotic systems, or birds in flight writing strange geometry in the sky. Things coalesce in the most unlikely and unpredictable ways, and this is but one example of it. Well done on sticking to that whole "brevity" thing, Prole But hopefully that answers your question!
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Jun 24, 2019 0:49:47 GMT -5
Important "Africa" news, Prole Hole! There's a new Minecraft-themed parody of "Africa".
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Post by Prole Hole on Jun 25, 2019 7:58:24 GMT -5
Important "Africa" news, Prole Hole ! There's a new Minecraft-themed parody of "Africa". I don't get it. By which I mean I genuinely don't understand why this exists. It's not a "parody" of Africa at all - parody is a humorous exaggeration of something for comic effect, but this is just some words intentionally badly sung to something approximating Africa's melody. It's not parodying Africa, because that would be rewriting the lyrics to point out their stupidity. It's not parodying Minecraft either. It's not that I don't find it funny (I mean, I don't, but that should be pretty self-evident) I just don't understand living in a world where bringing this into existence is seen as a worthwhile act. Now if you will excuse me I have some clouds to go yell at.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Jun 25, 2019 16:42:27 GMT -5
Important "Africa" news, Prole Hole ! There's a new Minecraft-themed parody of "Africa". I don't get it. By which I mean I genuinely don't understand why this exists. It's not a "parody" of Africa at all - parody is a humorous exaggeration of something for comic effect, but this is just some words intentionally badly sung to something approximating Africa's melody. It's not parodying Africa, because that would be rewriting the lyrics to point out their stupidity. It's not parodying Minecraft either. It's not that I don't find it funny (I mean, I don't, but that should be pretty self-evident) I just don't understand living in a world where bringing this into existence is seen as a worthwhile act. Now if you will excuse me I have some clouds to go yell at. Prole, what shocked me was doing a Youtube search for "Minecraft Toto Africa" after I found the video I linked, and learning that this wasn't even the first Minecraft "parody" of "Africa" uploaded to Youtube. There was another one uploaded a couple of years ago that I couldn't stand to listen to after just 30 seconds with over 100,000 views and a very positive like/dislike ratio, by some kid who must have been 11 or 12 year old poorly singing Minecraft-themed lyrics over a karaoke track of "Africa".
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Jun 25, 2019 17:17:39 GMT -5
How many posts on the TIF with the word "Africa" in them are references to "Africa" by Toto vs Africa the continent?
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Post by Mr. Greene's October Surprise on Jun 25, 2019 20:36:06 GMT -5
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Post by Gamblin' Telly on Jun 26, 2019 7:09:25 GMT -5
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Post by Celebith on Jun 26, 2019 20:36:25 GMT -5
How many posts on the TIF with the word "Africa" in them are references to "Africa" by Toto vs Africa the continent? In classic 'two things' fashion, I will reference this song while mentioning that my son is currently in South Africa on a veterinary internship thing at a wildlife refuge. Also, I think part of the appreciation for Africa, aside from its wicked hooks, is it's overall earnestness. They wrote it, the performed it and stand behind it. It's over the top, but not a joke. Like they said in one of the articles I quoted upstream, he was inspired by the teachers at his school that were missionaries in their youth and wanted to capture something of that. and now to go off-track, a song that really deserves some love, if only for the retro-kitschy video and terrific horns, is Don't Answer Me.
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Post by Prole Hole on Jun 27, 2019 9:01:54 GMT -5
So in addition to being a terrible, terrible song (and I think it's important to remember, during these discussions we have all been sharing over the last few years, that this is indeed a terrible, terrible song) it's also probably got some uncomfortable white saviour overtones going on as well? I... am not sure that inspiration redeems the song in the way he thinks it does.
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Post by Mr. Greene's October Surprise on Jul 11, 2019 21:45:24 GMT -5
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Post by Gamblin' Telly on Oct 7, 2019 8:42:40 GMT -5
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