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Post by Return of the Thin Olive Duke on Nov 10, 2016 0:43:11 GMT -5
I read that, in a survey taken in September, the general public were divided and mostly ambivalent toward which would be better for Israel, but a sizable plurality preferred Clinton on general principle. This is considerably at odds with the government and other right-wing parties, who have responded as if it's their birthday.
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Post by Lord Lucan on Nov 18, 2016 11:38:13 GMT -5
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Post by Return of the Thin Olive Duke on Nov 18, 2016 11:51:17 GMT -5
Lord Lucan He's very unpopular. His wife a year ago was exposed as abusing her help. It was not well-received news.
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Post by nowimnothing on Nov 18, 2016 14:24:05 GMT -5
So, you're saying conservative nutjobs are not likely to take over that country? This is important. Americans need a list of countries to escape to. France seems likely out. Eastern Europe is too scary with the geopolitical situation. Britian...... kinda in the middle, actually. Running out of options, here.... I would suggest pooling resources to buy that tropical island for a TI meetup if I didn't know we would tear each other apart. At this point a Battle Royale/Lord of the Flies type situation made up entirely of TI peeps is not sounding too bad. At least we could count on some witty quips and puns as we killed each other off. Trump has pretty limited vocabulary consisting mostly of adjectives, so I don't imagine our suffering here will get any such respite.
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Post by dLᵒ on Nov 23, 2016 3:17:12 GMT -5
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Nov 26, 2016 11:02:57 GMT -5
Well here's our President's statement on the death of Fidel Castro; and I don't think his supporters would find fault (his critics, certainly.)
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Post by Lord Lucan on Nov 26, 2016 14:17:08 GMT -5
Well here's our President's statement on the death of Fidel Castro; and I don't think his supporters would find fault (his critics, certainly.) Unmentioned there - as I imagine it will be in most remembrances, even from admirers and friendly critics - is the most significant example of Cuba's internationalism, Operation Carlota, the Cuban intervention in the Angolan Civil War against South Africa and UNITA, the latter supported by the US and PRC, in which half a million Cuban troops would serve (proportional to population, many times greater than the manpower commitment the US made to support its client regime in Vietnam) and which was instrumental in South Africa's defeat. Gabriel García Márquez happened to write an account of it in NLR, and also gave an interview to them ( reposted here) which is interesting in that he's critical of regimes which mimetically and unrealistically sought to impose the Soviet model on their societies, while arguing that the shape of the Cuban regime could only be fairly judged based on the country being under siege and in a state of emergency. It's true that it was, but I think it's also true that Castro and Guevera would not have, under any circumstances, been friends of a libertarian communist order.
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Nov 26, 2016 14:51:14 GMT -5
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Post by Lord Lucan on Nov 26, 2016 21:31:19 GMT -5
Trudeau's statement on Castro was also positive and criticized by those one would expect. He just made a visit to Cuba earlier in the month. Pierre famously visited Castro in 1976, a couple of months after Carlota began. Canada wasn't party to, and was critical of, the US trade and travel embargo. Castro was one of the pallbearers at his funeral, along with Jimmy Carter.
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Post by Return of the Thin Olive Duke on Nov 26, 2016 22:36:47 GMT -5
Are we seriously defending Castro now?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2016 22:55:57 GMT -5
Are we seriously defending Castro now?
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Post by Lord Lucan on Nov 26, 2016 23:09:17 GMT -5
Are we seriously defending Castro now? No-one has done that here, if that's what you're referring to.
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Post by Return of the Thin Olive Duke on Nov 27, 2016 0:27:07 GMT -5
So Juppé is the more moderate of the Republican Party candidates, but is he more likely than Fillon to beat Marine Le Pen?
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Nov 27, 2016 2:36:06 GMT -5
So Juppé is the more moderate of the Republican Party candidates, but is he more likely than Fillon to beat Marine Le Pen? Isn't he unlikely to beat Fillon in the first place?
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Post by Pastafarian on Nov 27, 2016 9:18:39 GMT -5
Are we seriously defending Castro now? I love that even though he was demonstrably Hispanic, that somehow him "looking white" is of import.
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Post by Return of the Thin Olive Duke on Nov 27, 2016 9:52:01 GMT -5
I love that even though he was demonstrably Hispanic, that somehow him "looking white" is of import. Well, he is white in Cuba. "Hisoanic" is a purely American concept.
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Post by Pastafarian on Nov 27, 2016 12:31:59 GMT -5
I love that even though he was demonstrably Hispanic, that somehow him "looking white" is of import. Well, he is white in Cuba. "Hisoanic" is a purely American concept. The word comes from the Latin for "from Spain" that was used as far back as ancient Rome. As his father was born in Spain, he is literally of Hispanic descent. Now that's his ethnicity vs his actual race, and you're correct that technically he is a white Hispanic But calling him a "white looking dude" and suggesting that the poster (presumably of Dominican descent) shouldn't be in the slightest interested makes it sound as if he's a cousin to Elizabeth of Windsor or one of the Rockerfellers. His white looking-ness has no relevance on whether he has an impact on people of colour or not. Ask the Cubans!
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Post by Return of the Thin Olive Duke on Nov 27, 2016 12:41:19 GMT -5
Are we seriously defending Castro now? No-one has done that here, if that's what you're referring to. My Facebook feed is overflowing with people complaining that the media is criticizing him when he's such a hero and all that garbage.
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Post by Lord Lucan on Nov 27, 2016 13:22:00 GMT -5
No-one has done that here, if that's what you're referring to. My Facebook feed is overflowing with people complaining that the media is criticizing him when he's such a hero and all that garbage. Well, it might be beacuse much of the criticism is glib and much of it emanating from people who purport to care about civil liberties and yet who would be praising him regardless of his treatment of those if only he'd reduced himself to American vassalage. But that doesn't in and of itself make him worthy of hero-worship, no.
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Nov 27, 2016 15:24:04 GMT -5
No-one has done that here, if that's what you're referring to. My Facebook feed is overflowing with people complaining that the media is criticizing him when he's such a hero and all that garbage. Well, there's also been a fair bit of blowback in our media about our President's generally very positive assessment of Castro (which noted zero negatives, unlike, for example, Jacobin); it's been defended as his personal opinion, which is entirely fair, but a little disingenuous (he was clearly expressing the opinion as President in a prepared statement available on the Presidency's website.) And to be fair to 'white looking', well, that covers the bases. Whether or not white Hispanics are white is clearly a bit of a contentious concept in American parlance, saying that he looked white I guess allows one to invoke the idea of whiteness without having to take a side on it. Anyway the Lord Mayor of Dublin will have a book of condolence open for Castro for people to sign tomorrow. I can't recall the last time I'd heard they did that - honestly, I think it was one of the US Presidents.
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Post by Return of the Thin Olive Duke on Nov 27, 2016 15:35:43 GMT -5
Douay-Rheims-Challoner Out of spite for Trump, I assume. Spite is a beautiful and powerful thing. Anyway, Fillon beat Juppé. Anybody know his foreign policy? Though I suppose anyone is better than Marine le Pen. Paging Murray the Demonic Skull.
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Nov 27, 2016 15:41:53 GMT -5
It is, and there's going to be a lot of it here (and is already), but no, this wouldn't be to spite Trump.
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Post by Murray the Demonic Skull on Nov 27, 2016 16:19:42 GMT -5
Douay-Rheims-Challoner Out of spite for Trump, I assume. Spite is a beautiful and powerful thing. Anyway, Fillon beat Juppé. Anybody know his foreign policy? Though I suppose anyone is better than Marine le Pen. Paging Murray the Demonic Skull. Less Europe though not leaving the EU and more Russia. We're fucked.
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Post by Return of the Thin Olive Duke on Nov 27, 2016 16:39:41 GMT -5
Douay-Rheims-Challoner Out of spite for Trump, I assume. Spite is a beautiful and powerful thing. Anyway, Fillon beat Juppé. Anybody know his foreign policy? Though I suppose anyone is better than Marine le Pen. Paging Murray the Demonic Skull. Less Europe though not leaving the EU and more Russia. We're fucked. NATO? We're at a desperate point here. We can't just depend on Canada to maintain the balance of global power.
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Post by Murray the Demonic Skull on Nov 27, 2016 16:45:03 GMT -5
Less Europe though not leaving the EU and more Russia. We're fucked. NATO? I doubt he'll want to leave NATO. Sarkozy made us rejoin and Fillon was his prime minister.
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Post by Return of the Thin Olive Duke on Nov 28, 2016 11:35:33 GMT -5
Won't somebody think of the poor, oppressed ISIS fighters!?!?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2016 11:40:59 GMT -5
It's not like they've ever hit a civilian wedding or anything, am I right brah
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Post by Return of the Thin Olive Duke on Nov 29, 2016 14:43:46 GMT -5
My roommate is now insisting that Julian Assange has been kidnapped. You can tell because no reputable media outlets will report it. Watching Anonymous slideshows and now he'll never shut up about it.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Nov 29, 2016 19:15:40 GMT -5
My roommate is now insisting that Julian Assange has been kidnapped. You can tell because no reputable media outlets will report it. Watching Anonymous slideshows and now he'll never shut up about it. Is this the same roommate who was super smug about Trump winning?
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Post by Return of the Thin Olive Duke on Nov 29, 2016 19:19:39 GMT -5
My roommate is now insisting that Julian Assange has been kidnapped. You can tell because no reputable media outlets will report it. Watching Anonymous slideshows and now he'll never shut up about it. Is this the same roommate who was super smug about Trump winning? Yes, the one who giggled. And sneaks into people's rooms when they're not home. And has long, stringy hair. Amd bizarrely prides himself on not being in the entertainment industry. And who Minnie finds "greasy, annoying, and generally a repulsive human."
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