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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 7:34:17 GMT -5
But it does have Tom Cruise falling off a helicopter...... so that's a win.
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Post by Celebith on Aug 7, 2018 23:46:55 GMT -5
"Dude, Where's My Car?" is as entertaining as "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure", and I'd rather watch either of them over "Dumb and Dumber". Dumb and Dumber is one of the few movies I've ever walked out on. I haaaaaaaaaaaate that movie so much!
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Post by Prole Hole on Aug 8, 2018 5:09:58 GMT -5
But it does have Tom Cruise falling off a helicopter...... so that's a win. Well I've seen it now. It's.... exactly the same as all the other ones. Great stunts, amazing set pieces, held together by a plot that could be written on the back of a fag packet and spy shenanigans that could have come from an episode of Danger Mouse. Some great bits (the helicopter stuff), some terrible bits (Alec Baldwin's stabbing, which was laugh-out-loud funny), nothing that shifted my impression of the series one iota.
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Post by Crash Test Dumbass on Aug 8, 2018 10:15:39 GMT -5
A.I.: You Mean Artificial Intelligence isn't a very good movie, but it is more of a smarmy piece of treacle and I don't understand the love for it.
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on Aug 8, 2018 11:06:00 GMT -5
A.I.: You Mean Artificial Intelligence isn't a very good movie, but it is more of a smarmy piece of treacle and I don't understand the love for it. I haven’t actually seen it, but having witnessed A.I.’s rehabilitation on the AVC and Dissolve I’m thinking it’s, in order of importance:
1. It’s a b-side, thus not talked about to death
2. It’s unquestionably flawed, thus interesting to talk about
3. It’s a Kubrick b-side
4. The “treacliness” accusation is an example of film buff posturing and their fear of a different set of emotional notes than in the conventional good movies canon (I think this is the least important reason, but I recall and have almost certainly used this sort of reasoning in talking about movies, though now it feels very early-mid 2010s to me)
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Post by songstarliner on Aug 8, 2018 13:40:22 GMT -5
Unpopular opinion? Oh yes.
I love the film A.I., flaws and all. It is beautiful.
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Post by ganews on Aug 8, 2018 21:35:58 GMT -5
The Matrix is more iconic and stylish, partially because of the way it is built on archetypes, but Inception is the better movie.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Aug 8, 2018 21:48:01 GMT -5
The Matrix is more iconic and stylish, partially because of the way it is built on archetypes, but Inception is the better movie. Inception is a genuinely great movie and people who constantly yell about all the plot holes are over-thinking it. If I wanted to poke holes in the film, I would just dispute the very premise of being able to plug into someone else's dream in the first place.
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Post by William T. Goat, Esq. on Aug 10, 2018 4:57:53 GMT -5
A.I.: You Mean Artificial Intelligence isn't a very good movie, but it is more of a smarmy piece of treacle and I don't understand the love for it. I've been overthinking the story of A.I., and I've got a darker interpretation. First of all, the "aliens" that show up at the end of the movie aren't aliens. They're super-evolved machines. Evolutionary descendants of David, the first machine that can love. It's traditional, in sci-fi movies, for machines to decide that humans have become "obsolete", turn evil, and try to take over the world. Of course, the humans eventually defeat them. And the boilerplate explanation for the human victory is always something like this: "Machines think that humans are obsolete because they are smarter, stronger, and faster than us. But there's one thing humans can do that machines can never do: love. Because of this, humans will never be obsolete." A.I. is a story about the first machine that can love. A machine that is so much better at love than humans are, that humans can't love it back. In the end, only other machines have the capacity to do that. So by the end of the movie, the machines have won. They didn't even have to turn evil to do it. Machines are not just stronger, faster, smarter than humans; they can out-love humans. Humans, at last, have become obsolete. The movie's message, is that this is inevitable.
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Post by Kangaroosevelt-Ecks on Aug 10, 2018 8:51:17 GMT -5
The Matrix is more iconic and stylish, partially because of the way it is built on archetypes, but Inception is the better movie. Last time I saw The Matrix I was a little surprised at how it whip-lashed from 'wild inventive set piece' to 'monotone exposition dump' and back.
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Post by ganews on Aug 10, 2018 13:40:58 GMT -5
The Matrix is more iconic and stylish, partially because of the way it is built on archetypes, but Inception is the better movie. Last time I saw The Matrix I was a little surprised at how it whip-lashed from 'wild inventive set piece' to 'monotone exposition dump' and back. Whereas Inception is supposed to be super-complicated; there was even a stupid South Park episode about how people are only pretending not to be confused. But there was an audience POV character in the entire movie! Side characters are asking about their situation and having it explained up to the last 15 minutes of the movie! Whether one thinks that is well-integrated (I obviously do), it's not hard.
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Post by Angry Raisins on Aug 14, 2018 14:06:58 GMT -5
It's not a great film, but Zach Snyder's Watchmen is a reasonable stab at adapting something that's at best very difficult and maybe impossible to adapt well. It isn't a travesty and it doesn't "miss the point".
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Aug 14, 2018 16:21:27 GMT -5
It's not a great film, but Zach Snyder's Watchmen is a reasonable stab at adapting something that's at best very difficult and maybe impossible to adapt well. It isn't a travesty and it doesn't "miss the point". This is probably only a lukewarm take of a response but my issue with the Watchmen movie was less "LOL Snyder sucks, what an idiot" and more that I always thought the most interesting bits of the books were in the history and the supplemental material. It makes sense that he made the decision to drop a lot of that to cut things for time in the movie, but it does make the main plot seem a bit more hollow.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Aug 14, 2018 17:00:17 GMT -5
It's not a great film, but Zach Snyder's Watchmen is a reasonable stab at adapting something that's at best very difficult and maybe impossible to adapt well. It isn't a travesty and it doesn't "miss the point". I felt like it was as good an adaptation as a movie could reasonably be expected to be. Most of the cast was fine to good (except Goode, who played it just too evil), most of the movie was just the comic shot as straight as possible. There were a few scenes that didn't work, and the ending only semi-justified the changes (which I think were done to streamline the plot more than anything else; the squid had an insanely complicated backstory), and Snyder's stamp on a few scenes was clunky as hell, but the movie was generally so respectful of the original series that I think we got as good a movie as we could of hoped for. That may be a fairly cynical take in some ways, but I walked out of it pleasantly surprised because I was worried we'd get Lynch's Dune.
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Post by DangOlJimmyITellYouWhat on Aug 16, 2018 12:00:20 GMT -5
I may have said this before, but oh my GOD Tumblr SHUT UP ABOUT PACIFIC RIM
You might think it's fun, but it is NOT A GOOD MOVIE
Mako Mori is NOT THE PINNACLE OF FEMINISM by a long goddamn shot
Charlie Hunnam has the charisma of a CAKE OF SOAP because at least wood is normally interesting in some way and HE IS SO BORING
IDRIS ELBA IS A BEAUTIFUL MAN, THIS IS TRUE THO
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Post by DangOlJimmyITellYouWhat on Aug 16, 2018 12:01:56 GMT -5
It's not a great film, but Zach Snyder's Watchmen is a reasonable stab at adapting something that's at best very difficult and maybe impossible to adapt well. It isn't a travesty and it doesn't "miss the point". Unpopular book opinion: Watchmen was 100% meh, and Alan Moore is not a genius.
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on Aug 16, 2018 12:31:41 GMT -5
I may have said this before, but oh my GOD Tumblr SHUT UP ABOUT PACIFIC RIM
You might think it's fun, but it is NOT A GOOD MOVIE
Mako Mori is NOT THE PINNACLE OF FEMINISM by a long goddamn shot
Charlie Hunnam has the charisma of a CAKE OF SOAP because at least wood is normally interesting in some way and HE IS SO BORING
IDRIS ELBA IS A BEAUTIFUL MAN, THIS IS TRUE THO
Holy shit is this still going on?
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Post by DangOlJimmyITellYouWhat on Aug 16, 2018 13:00:33 GMT -5
I may have said this before, but oh my GOD Tumblr SHUT UP ABOUT PACIFIC RIM
You might think it's fun, but it is NOT A GOOD MOVIE
Mako Mori is NOT THE PINNACLE OF FEMINISM by a long goddamn shot
Charlie Hunnam has the charisma of a CAKE OF SOAP because at least wood is normally interesting in some way and HE IS SO BORING
IDRIS ELBA IS A BEAUTIFUL MAN, THIS IS TRUE THO
Holy shit is this still going on? Just when I think it's gone for good, someone on my feed starts reposting pictures and makes me angry again.
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Post by Gamblin' Telly on Aug 17, 2018 4:11:33 GMT -5
Hobo With A Shotgun is the good B-Movie coming from the fake trailers of Grindhouse. Machete is Dreck. They should have went for Werewolf Women Of The SS or Nic Cage as Fu Manchu instead.
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Post by Post-St. Patty's Day Bloat on Aug 17, 2018 16:42:42 GMT -5
Hobo With A Shotgun is the good B-Movie coming from the fake trailers of Grindhouse. Machete is Dreck. They should have went for Werewolf Women Of The SS or Nic Cage as Fu Manchu instead. Machete's fatal mistake is thinking it's a real movie. Too much plot. It should've been 72 minutes, tops, and been wall-to-wall action and silliness. I think I liked the sequel better (even though the intentional stupidity felt even more forced this time around).
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Post by Celebith on Aug 18, 2018 0:08:47 GMT -5
It's not a great film, but Zach Snyder's Watchmen is a reasonable stab at adapting something that's at best very difficult and maybe impossible to adapt well. It isn't a travesty and it doesn't "miss the point". The 3.5 hour long version that incorporates Black Sails is pretty good, and currently streaming on Prime. Better than the abbreviated versions, even if some of the dialog is flat. I always had a bit of a beef with how Syder's style is so cool that it absolutely lacks any warmth, but a better description (and I forget where I heard it) is that Snyder does a great job of creating 'moments' without anything to connect them. It doesn't always work, but the Dr. Manhattan origin sequence, and the opening, were both great. Manhattan's story is nothing but 'moments', and Snyder's style is perfectly suited to it. To a lesser extent, it serves him well for straight comics adaptations, where he can bring frames to life, but less well for movies based on comics.
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Post by Celebith on Aug 18, 2018 0:11:51 GMT -5
I may have said this before, but oh my GOD Tumblr SHUT UP ABOUT PACIFIC RIM
You might think it's fun, but it is NOT A GOOD MOVIE
Mako Mori is NOT THE PINNACLE OF FEMINISM by a long goddamn shot
Charlie Hunnam has the charisma of a CAKE OF SOAP because at least wood is normally interesting in some way and HE IS SO BORING
IDRIS ELBA IS A BEAUTIFUL MAN, THIS IS TRUE THO
One thing I loved about Pacific Rim was that it didn't force a romance plot onto the leads. At the end, they seemed relieved to be alive, but more like comrades in arms than anything else.
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Post by Celebith on Aug 18, 2018 18:15:11 GMT -5
Boondock Saints sucks. I think I've been able to watch about half an hour of it before I get bored. Maybe not even that much.
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Post by Gamblin' Telly on Aug 19, 2018 15:13:14 GMT -5
The Matrix is more iconic and stylish, partially because of the way it is built on archetypes, but Inception is the better movie. Besides Tom Hardy's shirts in Inception, none of these are close to any definition of good. Unless you equal good with preposterous.
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Post by Gamblin' Telly on Aug 19, 2018 15:15:21 GMT -5
Boondock Saints sucks. I think I've been able to watch about half an hour of it before I get bored. Maybe not even that much.
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Post by Hachiman on Aug 22, 2018 21:46:42 GMT -5
I may have said this before, but oh my GOD Tumblr SHUT UP ABOUT PACIFIC RIM
You might think it's fun, but it is NOT A GOOD MOVIE
Mako Mori is NOT THE PINNACLE OF FEMINISM by a long goddamn shot
Charlie Hunnam has the charisma of a CAKE OF SOAP because at least wood is normally interesting in some way and HE IS SO BORING
IDRIS ELBA IS A BEAUTIFUL MAN, THIS IS TRUE THO
One thing I loved about Pacific Rim was that it didn't force a romance plot onto the leads. At the end, they seemed relieved to be alive, but more like comrades in arms than anything else. I liked that too, but I have also heard that we basically got a better alternative ending then where the movie was initially going and a few scenes seem to support this. I also thumbed through the novelization at a used book store recently and, yep, they were making out on that life raft at the end of the book, so there were definitely people who wanted that to happen. I'm happy it didn't though. More movies need the message of men and women working together without pairing up.
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Post by songstarliner on Sept 1, 2018 15:13:21 GMT -5
I watched Rogue One, and it was hands-down my favorite Star War since the original series.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Sept 1, 2018 15:19:15 GMT -5
I watched Rogue One, and it was hands-down my favorite Star War since the original series. I go back and forth on whether I liked it or The Last Jedi more, but I think they're definitely the two best ones since the Holy Trinity.
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Post by Prole Hole on Sept 5, 2018 8:41:37 GMT -5
If I may wax pretentious for a moment, Rogue One feels like the first Star Wars film that really embraces the idea of genre collision - that is, taking your dominant narrative form (this case a Star Wars movie), smashing it into another genre (in this case, a World War II movie) and seeing what happens. A New Hope does this a bit - it's differentiated from any number of Ray Harryhausen movies only in setting, really - but it's a pretty straightforward science fantasy piece (this is not a criticism). ESB does it twice - a war movie in the beginning and a "hero finds himself" quest in the middle, with the final confrontation living comfortably within Star Wars's own narrative devices. ROTJ is... well, not a great example of anything, really, but it's mostly just what it is. All of the prequels are content to be nothing but Star Wars films, with a few little details thrown in here and there (a bit of noir, a bit of sword-and-sandals), the same of which is true with The Force Awakens. But Rogue One takes a single genre to collide with, sticks with it throughout the entirety of its length, and allows the mechanisms of the war movie to function through a Star Wars lens. The kind of war movie it invokes varies - the end section is very obviously patterned after Saving Private Ryan, the middle section invokes Casablanca and so on - but it finds its groove and sticks to it consistently, beginning to end.
The results are spectacular, and I agree it's my favourite since the original.
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Post by The Spice Weasel on Sept 5, 2018 10:30:27 GMT -5
I watched Rogue One, and it was hands-down my favorite Star War since the original series. The appearance of the cantina duo was a bit much and the series of steps to access and transmit the plans seemed like something out of the first Dark Forces game, but it is also my favorite as well. I was surprised when so many people I expected to enjoy it did not.
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