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Post by Return of the Thin Olive Duke on May 24, 2016 0:42:31 GMT -5
Movies that cause you to buck popular consensus, past or present. I'm frankly surprised that there isn't already a thread like this, as it's a real conversation starter in my experience. For me: 1. MASH. Goddamn did I hate this movie. According to my film professor who showed this in class, most of his students have turned against the earlier (1969-71) New Hollywood films, and most of us did not like this one. What little plot that is impossible to follow (what the fuck was with the suicide thing?), the ostensible heroes are as loathsome as the people they're supposedly rebelling against, and the twenty minute digression at the end was completely pointless and honestly went against the rest of the movie. 2. Gone Girl. Not only did I hate this movie; I hated the reactions pro and con that a lot of people had. For me, it just didn't make sense for her to plan to kill herself if she was really a sociopath, nor did I understand why she would want to effectively hold him hostage for life when the first plan didn't work out. Call me stupid, but it feels like there are many better options. . In terms of the reaction, I was amused by the people who felt guilty for liking it because "this movie is going to end feminism," like they didn't say the same thing about Ally McBeal. Or the praise of what an honest, deep examination of marriage it was. If that's the defining portrait of the American marriage, then the defining film of the hippie movement is The Last House on the Left.3. Falling Down. Amazingly, there are still people today decrying this film as an angry white male power fantasy. While Michael Douglas' character is the protagonist, and we are initially meant to feel his righteous fury, it quickly becomes clear that he is and always has been unhinged and antisocial, and in either case, his pursuer played by Robert Duvall is unquestionably a good guy, because he believes in justice no matter what. Either they haven't seen it, have never heard of anti-heroes, can't comprehend dark comedy, need everything to be in black and white, or do all that but are bashing it for points. Whether or not you like the film, it's absolutely clear what it's doing. 4. Stranger than Fiction. While this was critically well-received, I remember it getting a lot of shit in TOC for being "fake Charlie Kaufmann," because God forbid anyone engage in magical realism who isn't Charlie Kaufman. Fuck that. It's one of my favorite movies. |
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Post by Ben Grimm on May 24, 2016 8:37:42 GMT -5
-Viewed objectively, The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises are basically the same movie. Literally every criticism of TDKR I've ever seen applies equally as much, if not more, to TDK. Since this is unpopular film opinions... The Dark Knight isn't really all that good. Heath Ledger's performance is just good enough to mask how poorly paced and tedious the rest of the movie is. I won't hear a word against Ledger in the film - he really was that good - but the rest of the movie is an overstuffed mess, with subplots that never go anywhere, and an unbelievably over-simplified look at how to deal with crime. As a result, if you take out that central performance, the remaining movie isn't going to be all that good. I'm assuming that's what's going on with TDKR, though I've only seen about a half hour of it, which was really really boring. |
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on May 24, 2016 8:52:30 GMT -5
Return of the Thin Olive Duke Woooo, Stranger Than Fiction!!!! How much more adorable can Will Ferrell get than bringing tiny bags of different flours instead of flowers? None, none more adorable.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on May 24, 2016 9:26:26 GMT -5
Charlie Chaplin is vastly overrated. Modern Times is not a very good movie.
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Post by Ron Howard Voice on May 24, 2016 9:51:59 GMT -5
I don't like any Marvel movies at all.
I think very, very few movies can be ruined by a plot hole. For instance, the new Star Wars' ridiculous star vacuum murder planet didn't ruin the whole movie for me. But one movie that is seriously spoiled by its gaping plot hole is 2015 critical darling and A.A. Dowd A rating, Phoenix.
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Post by MarkInTexas on May 24, 2016 12:31:37 GMT -5
The Lord of the Rings trilogy is just a long pointless slog to me. The way everyone else thinks of the Hobbit movies, that's how I feel about LOTR.
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Post by repulsionist on May 24, 2016 12:47:08 GMT -5
The Lord of the Rings trilogy is just a long pointless slog to me. The way everyone else thinks of the Hobbit movies, that's how I feel about LOTR. Foster Banks type anecdote Got completely hammered on Miller Low Life and sundry other products before hitting the flickhouse in Ft. Worth for The Two Towers (2002). I was not obliged my opinions when loudly haranguing Legolas during the mountain camera crane scene (early-to-mid film): "Walk slower, pretty boy, you gotta make this movie LAST!" You know, driving home the fact that this was a transitional film and took a lot to get to the next stage. I thought it pithy; however the rest of the group watching the film in the cinema didn't agree. My usually taciturn buddy sushed me real good. I went to pee and came back; they were still around the mountain. UGH! I did manage to stay awake for the entire film, which isn't something I can say for the back-end holiday release Gangs of New York (2002). |
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Post by MarkInTexas on May 24, 2016 13:01:57 GMT -5
The Lord of the Rings trilogy is just a long pointless slog to me. The way everyone else thinks of the Hobbit movies, that's how I feel about LOTR. Foster Banks type anecdote Got completely hammered on Miller Low Life and sundry other products before hitting the flickhouse in Ft. Worth for The Two Towers (2002). I was not obliged my opinions when loudly haranguing Legolas during the mountain camera crane scene (early-to-mid film): "Walk slower, pretty boy, you gotta make this movie LAST!" You know, driving home the fact that this was a transitional film and took a lot to get to the next stage. I thought it pithy; however the rest of the group watching the film in the cinema didn't agree. My usually taciturn buddy sushed me real good. I went to pee and came back; they were still around the mountain. UGH! I did manage to stay awake for the entire film, which isn't something I can say for the back-end holiday release Gangs of New York (2002). As a former resident of Fort Worth who has a weird obsession about movie theaters, old and new, I have to ask where you saw it? |
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Post by Paleu on May 24, 2016 14:14:50 GMT -5
I think A Clockwork Orange is just a series of nihilistic violent escapades that don't really add up to a cohesive message, let alone a convincing narrative about moral choice.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 14:31:16 GMT -5
George Romero's zombie movies are hardly classics and, in fact, barely rise to mediocre.
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Post by repulsionist on May 24, 2016 15:21:37 GMT -5
pantsgoblin , but Martin and Season of the Witch are tight, though, right? Creepshow's fun, yes?
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 15:27:22 GMT -5
pantsgoblin , but Martin and Season of the Witch are tight, though, right? Creepshow's fun, yes? I haven't seen Season of the Witch, but I greatly enjoy the other two. |
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Post by Post-Lupin on May 24, 2016 15:29:03 GMT -5
Ooh, which hobby-horse shall I jump on and ride to exhaustion? The Shining? All post-Rushmore Wes Anderson?
Nah, I'll go with this one: No Country For Old Men is the Coen Brothers' worst film and Anton Chigurh is the least scary assassin in cinema history.
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Post by repulsionist on May 24, 2016 15:32:32 GMT -5
Cult and Underground Film Edition [To which I entreat the intrepid Tellyfier to embellish upon.]
The Sadist is a better film than Badlands. Russ Meyer's most brutal, unsavory film is Up. Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 is the better film to its predecessor. Blood Diner is better than Blood Feast. Mondo films only have value of intellectual curiosity for young people between the ages of 14 and 16. The Blood Collection (Filipino horror) is not worth most cult cinephiles time. |
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Post by moimoi on May 24, 2016 15:33:51 GMT -5
I love LOVE the 1967 version of Casino Royale. It may be wildly self-indulgent and incoherent - like something written by a 12-year-old - but it's nonstop entertaining and achieves, manyfold, exactly what it was trying to do (spoof the spy genre). Everything looks amazing and everyone is having a great time. It's the 'Adam West Batman' of James Bond movies. Whoever disparages this film is the enemy of fun.
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Post by Return of the Thin Olive Duke on May 24, 2016 15:41:07 GMT -5
As much as I love The Lord of the Rings, it has a lot of ugly slow-mo that clearly was filmed at a normal rate and accordingly ends up looking like a rapid-fire slideshow. Peter Jackson seems to like doing that a lot and I hate it.
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Post by Post-Lupin on May 24, 2016 15:45:19 GMT -5
I love LOVE the 1967 version of Casino Royale. It may be wildly self-indulgent and incoherent - like something written by a 12-year-old, but it's nonstop entertaining and achieves, manyfold, exactly what it was trying to do (spoof the spy genre). Everything looks amazing and everyone is having a great time. It's the 'Adam West Batman' of James Bond movies. Whoever disparages this film is the enemy of fun. Broke up with my first girlfriend while that was on in the background. Has not diminished my affection for the flick. |
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Post by Tellyfier on May 24, 2016 15:46:52 GMT -5
Cult and Underground Film Edition [To which I entreat the intrepid Tellyfier to embellish upon.]
The Sadist is a better film than Badlands. Russ Meyer's most brutal, unsavory film is Up. Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 is the better film to its predecessor. Blood Diner is better than Blood Feast. Mondo films only have value of intellectual curiosity for young people between the ages of 14 and 16. The Blood Collection (Filipino horror) is not worth most cult cinephiles time. I love the original TCM but I do need a specific mindset and outer setting (summer heat, cheap un-refrigerated beer) to fully 'enjoy' it. That said, Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 has DENNIS HOPPER V LEATHERFACE CHAINSAW FIGHT, so yes, it is. It's only surpassed in ridiculousness by Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The next Generation which Renee Zellweger and Matthew McConaughey both would like you to not know about it. |
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Post by Invisible Goat on May 24, 2016 15:59:30 GMT -5
This thread is on very thin ice
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Post by The Stuffingtacular She-Hulk on May 24, 2016 16:01:02 GMT -5
I truly don't see what all the fuss about Casablanca is. The first time I saw it, I thought I was in for an amazingly unique experience...and all I got was a boring love story in a slightly exotic setting.
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Post by Post-Lupin on May 24, 2016 16:56:27 GMT -5
Not my Unpopular Opinion, but my wife's: Citizen Kane is overrated garbage that biddable people only pretend to like because they've been told that they're supposed to. ...and you're still married?? |
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Post by Post-Lupin on May 24, 2016 16:57:44 GMT -5
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Post by Return of the Thin Olive Duke on May 24, 2016 17:04:26 GMT -5
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Post by Post-Lupin on May 24, 2016 17:06:55 GMT -5
...and you're still married?? I ♥ hot takes, what can I say? So does your mum. |
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Post by Squanchy on May 24, 2016 18:18:20 GMT -5
Hmmmm... with the Dark Knight covered, I feel like I just need to add that Donnie Darko is awful. I thought that movie was laughably terrible. It ruined my perception of Jake G. for years before I realized that he is an amazing actor.
Past that, I think that Chris Nolan is overrated as a director - and I'm not even referring to his usually bagged on films (TDKR, Inception) - Memento does not hold up at all, in my opinion.
Also there's a pretty decent backlash against Seth Rogen and James Franco, but Pineapple Express remains one of my favorite dumb comedy movies.
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Post by Return of the Thin Olive Duke on May 24, 2016 18:20:34 GMT -5
Hmmmm... with the Dark Knight covered, I feel like I just need to add that Donnie Darko is awful. I thought that movie was laughably terrible. It ruined my perception of Jake G. for years before I realized that he is an amazing actor. Past that, I think that Chris Nolan is overrated as a director - and I'm not even referring to his usually bagged on films (TDKR, Inception) - Memento does not hold up at all, in my opinion. Also there's a pretty decent backlash against Seth Rogen and James Franco, but Pineapple Express remains one of my favorite dumb comedy movies. Ooh, there's one. I still like Inception.My intros to Jake Gyllenhaal were October Sky and Bubble Boy, both of which I liked, and both of which I'm afraid to re-watch. I've been told that if you haven't seen Donnie Darko by 16, you won't like it. |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 20:27:14 GMT -5
Pain and Gain is a great movie that Michael Bay was a perfect director for.
Toy Story 3 is average at best.
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on May 24, 2016 22:15:39 GMT -5
If The Witch and Goodnight Mommy were key milestones in "redefining horror", that is not a definition I want.
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Post by Paleu on May 24, 2016 23:12:19 GMT -5
If The Witch and Goodnight Mommy were key milestones in "redefining horror", that is not a definition I want. I feel that way about It Follows. |
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