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Post by WKRP Jimmy Drop on Apr 16, 2022 14:04:34 GMT -5
I'm not overly impressed by the first two episodes. Maybe it's my occasional bias against English accents, but I'm tired of the sniveling Steven persona. The CGI did not look up to Marvel par. Ethan Hawke's character is interesting though, and I kind of like that the protagonist god is more self-serving than benevolent, the way polytheistic gods are. I had expected the second episode to be Marc's (or maybe even Jake Locksley, who we haven't seen at all), and I'm wondering how long they're going to continue with Steven as the protagonist. One of the comics series shifted viewpoints every issue and I had kind of expected them to take that approach to this show. Yeah, I am just not into this. I want to be, and my preteen Egyptology-obsessed self wants me to be, but there’s just nothing for me to latch onto. I’ve never cared for Ethan Hawke(which I believe makes me a terrible GenX hetgirl), so far the DID thing is not being used in an unpredictable way, and the pacing is..weird? Almost like they’ve edited out bits that would make it flow more smoothly. Also I can’t unsee the info that my comic friend shared*, which is that Steven Grant is an (not English) alter based on Captain America that Marc created as a kid (basically to feel more powerful/ in control etc). And tbh you can’t just apply half the name of a major Marvel character to a minor character and not address it; sure there may be millions of Steven Grants in the real world, but it’s not the real world, and coincidence needs to be explained. *Im taking her word for it, since I know nothing about the comics, but it is a thing that would make sense from a writerly standpoint. |
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Post by Ben Grimm on Apr 16, 2022 16:14:35 GMT -5
I had expected the second episode to be Marc's (or maybe even Jake Locksley, who we haven't seen at all), and I'm wondering how long they're going to continue with Steven as the protagonist. One of the comics series shifted viewpoints every issue and I had kind of expected them to take that approach to this show. Yeah, I am just not into this. I want to be, and my preteen Egyptology-obsessed self wants me to be, but there’s just nothing for me to latch onto. I’ve never cared for Ethan Hawke(which I believe makes me a terrible GenX hetgirl), so far the DID thing is not being used in an unpredictable way, and the pacing is..weird? Almost like they’ve edited out bits that would make it flow more smoothly. Also I can’t unsee the info that my comic friend shared*, which is that Steven Grant is an (not English) alter based on Captain America that Marc created as a kid (basically to feel more powerful/ in control etc). And tbh you can’t just apply half the name of a major Marvel character to a minor character and not address it; sure there may be millions of Steven Grants in the real world, but it’s not the real world, and coincidence needs to be explained. *Im taking her word for it, since I know nothing about the comics, but it is a thing that would make sense from a writerly standpoint. The "named after Captain America" thing is, I think, a meta comics in-joke; Steve Rogers briefly had the middle name "Grant" in comics (it was retconned away pretty quickly) and Moon Knight has an alter named Steven Grant, but they're almost definitely both named after Marvel proofreader/writer Steven Grant, not each other. There's also the weird history of Moon Knight's alters; they were originally just cover identities, and as the character got written to be crazier and crazier, they eventually began to be depicted as something else. |
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Post by Prole Hole on Apr 17, 2022 4:12:34 GMT -5
Three episodes in and... yeah I'm just not feeling Moon Knight. I enjoyed the first episode most, and Oscar Isaac seems like he's having fun on Marvel money but beyond that it's all very unengaging. There's lots that should be entertaining, the fights are pretty well choreographed, the Egyptology angle is if not original in any sense at least new to on-screen MCU, but it's all just there. It feels like watching someone take a script of A4 pages then just making it rain, and whatever order the pages fell in that's what we get. Scenes barely seem to connect to each other (and not just because of the intentional disjointed editing), there's no rhythm or pacing to anything and it's just all terribly hard to care about. I'm mostly hanging on because I'm enjoying Isaac but it's going to take very little at this point for to just go, "nah". Peculiar indeed.
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Post by WKRP Jimmy Drop on Apr 17, 2022 19:28:48 GMT -5
Yeah, I am just not into this. I want to be, and my preteen Egyptology-obsessed self wants me to be, but there’s just nothing for me to latch onto. I’ve never cared for Ethan Hawke(which I believe makes me a terrible GenX hetgirl), so far the DID thing is not being used in an unpredictable way, and the pacing is..weird? Almost like they’ve edited out bits that would make it flow more smoothly. Also I can’t unsee the info that my comic friend shared*, which is that Steven Grant is an (not English) alter based on Captain America that Marc created as a kid (basically to feel more powerful/ in control etc). And tbh you can’t just apply half the name of a major Marvel character to a minor character and not address it; sure there may be millions of Steven Grants in the real world, but it’s not the real world, and coincidence needs to be explained. *Im taking her word for it, since I know nothing about the comics, but it is a thing that would make sense from a writerly standpoint. The "named after Captain America" thing is, I think, a meta comics in-joke; Steve Rogers briefly had the middle name "Grant" in comics (it was retconned away pretty quickly) and Moon Knight has an alter named Steven Grant, but they're almost definitely both named after Marvel proofreader/writer Steven Grant, not each other. There's also the weird history of Moon Knight's alters; they were originally just cover identities, and as the character got written to be crazier and crazier, they eventually began to be depicted as something else. “Grant” being retconned is kind of hilarious; in the parts of the internet where I hang out, it’s used ALL the time. I mean, constantly; it might as well be tattooed on his forehead. But after a small Google, looks like MCU uses it, so that’s probably the difference. Although a middle name is a weirdo thing to retcon. Not like it’s really going cause any problems (unless they retconned it so they could use it with Moon Knight ha) |
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Apr 28, 2022 8:37:34 GMT -5
Moon Knight is definitely *different* and wow, kind of dark. The reveal of where Steven Grant started was just ... devestating. And Oscar Isaac doing ALL of the acting. Whew. Not sure what episode 6 will hold but it suddenly feels too short.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Apr 28, 2022 8:40:23 GMT -5
Moon Knight is definitely *different* and wow, kind of dark. The reveal of where Steven Grant started was just ... devestating. And Oscar Isaac doing ALL of the acting. Whew. Not sure what episode 6 will hold but it suddenly feels too short. Yeah, we were talking after the episode and wondering how the hell all this was going to get wrapped up in a single episode. |
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Post by ganews on Apr 28, 2022 22:10:03 GMT -5
Frankly that was the only good episode in the series so far.
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Post by sarapen on May 3, 2022 10:40:04 GMT -5
Frankly that was the only good episode in the series so far. It was the first episode where I felt like Oscar Isaac wasn't being wasted. |
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on May 5, 2022 10:17:11 GMT -5
So, I liked Moon Knight (even though I kept calling it "Ghost Knight") but mostly on the strength of the performances - the story was a little incoherent to me. It's probably one of those things that it helps a lot if you've read the comic books. But Oscar Isaac, May Calamaway and Ethan Hawke were great.
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on May 13, 2022 17:28:07 GMT -5
I know this was more of a comedy offshoot, but Patton Oswalt's MODOK show was cancelled after one season.
Honestly I tried to watch it, but after 3 episodes I was just bored and stopped.
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Post by liebkartoffel on May 14, 2022 10:27:22 GMT -5
I know this was more of a comedy offshoot, but Patton Oswalt's MODOK show was cancelled after one season. Honestly I tried to watch it, but after 3 episodes I was just bored and stopped. I really wanted to give it the benefit of the doubt, but it just ended up being an interminably long Robot Chicken sketch. |
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on May 17, 2022 1:26:32 GMT -5
Popping in with the news that She-Hulk is apparently dropping on August 17.
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on May 17, 2022 16:59:23 GMT -5
Popping in with the news that She-Hulk is apparently dropping on August 17. AND A TRAILER! |
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Post by Ben Grimm on May 17, 2022 17:42:24 GMT -5
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Post by Ben Grimm on May 17, 2022 21:24:31 GMT -5
OMG, at 1:23 we've got the Fabulous Frog-Man.   |
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on May 19, 2022 14:14:59 GMT -5
Sorry, is the CGI on this show really that bad? It looks fine to me.
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Post by Ben Grimm on May 19, 2022 14:40:27 GMT -5
Sorry, is the CGI on this show really that bad? It looks fine to me. The show's not coming out for a few months; I suspect the CGI is unfinished at this point, in any case. |
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Post by Ben Grimm on Jun 8, 2022 18:23:54 GMT -5
First episode of Ms. Marvel was fun. Lots of interesting visual stuff; kind of reminded me of Into the Spider-Verse in that respect. The origin of Ms. Marvel is very different than the comics - I'm guessing that was one of the Quantum Bands she got hold of - but she probably needed a new origin for the MCU in any case.
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Jun 8, 2022 18:54:29 GMT -5
First episode of Ms. Marvel was fun. Lots of interesting visual stuff; kind of reminded me of Into the Spider-Verse in that respect. The origin of Ms. Marvel is very different than the comics - I'm guessing that was one of the Quantum Bands she got hold of - but she probably needed a new origin for the MCU in any case. Yes, and the original creator of the character is 100% on board with the MCU version's changes, so no worries there! This episode WAS fun! |
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Jun 9, 2022 9:25:31 GMT -5
First episode of Ms. Marvel was fun. Lots of interesting visual stuff; kind of reminded me of Into the Spider-Verse in that respect. The origin of Ms. Marvel is very different than the comics - I'm guessing that was one of the Quantum Bands she got hold of - but she probably needed a new origin for the MCU in any case. I mean, even in the context of the comics her original origin was kind of convoluted. Definitely not worth taking another pass at making the Inhumans a thing in the movies/TV to maintain, at any rate. The stretchy powers were a nice fit for the identity struggle themes of that first run, but it seems like they'll be able to tackle that and keep some of the spirit without tying it back so hard to her powers. The one irrational thing that bugged me is that there is no chance in hell that the Avengers have been a thing for 10 years (15 if you factor in the blip, I suppose) and this is somehow the first ever AvengersCon, lol. |
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Post by Nudeviking on Jun 13, 2022 3:40:17 GMT -5
First episode of Ms. Marvel was fun. Lots of interesting visual stuff; kind of reminded me of Into the Spider-Verse in that respect. The origin of Ms. Marvel is very different than the comics - I'm guessing that was one of the Quantum Bands she got hold of - but she probably needed a new origin for the MCU in any case. I mean, even in the context of the comics her original origin was kind of convoluted. Definitely not worth taking another pass at making the Inhumans a thing in the movies/TV to maintain, at any rate. The stretchy powers were a nice fit for the identity struggle themes of that first run, but it seems like they'll be able to tackle that and keep some of the spirit without tying it back so hard to her powers. The one irrational thing that bugged me is that there is no chance in hell that the Avengers have been a thing for 10 years (15 if you factor in the blip, I suppose) and this is somehow the first ever AvengersCon, lol. Maybe it was the first "official" one. Like if you look at "anime conventions" or "comic book conventions" from the 80s and shit compared to what they're like today it's complete different animals. Maybe after Avengers 1 there was a AvengersCon type deal that a couple of nerds on usenet set up and held in a conference room at a Howard Johnsons somewhere on Long Island. |
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Post by sarapen on Jun 14, 2022 8:57:42 GMT -5
I don't get why Kamala's guidance counsellor wasn't steering her toward art classes. She doodles a lot and keeps getting distracted by creative ideas, sounds like a perfect fit.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Jun 14, 2022 10:21:34 GMT -5
I don't get why Kamala's guidance counsellor wasn't steering her toward art classes. She doodles a lot and keeps getting distracted by creative ideas, sounds like a perfect fit. Because the U.S. public school system is very much not interested in steering students into the arts? |
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Post by sarapen on Jun 14, 2022 10:36:57 GMT -5
I don't get why Kamala's guidance counsellor wasn't steering her toward art classes. She doodles a lot and keeps getting distracted by creative ideas, sounds like a perfect fit. Because the U.S. public school system is very much not interested in steering students into the arts? Yeah, the US cutting arts funding is how it ended up that so many superhero actors today are actually British. |
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Post by Nudeviking on Jun 15, 2022 3:24:27 GMT -5
I don't get why Kamala's guidance counsellor wasn't steering her toward art classes. She doodles a lot and keeps getting distracted by creative ideas, sounds like a perfect fit. Did they know she doodled or just think she was a space cadet? Like I can't remember if anyone other then her buddy (and whoever watched her tink-tonks or youtube videos she was making in the beginning) knew that she drew. Did a teacher scold her for drawing during that Planning to Get to ComicCon montage thing? |
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Post by Ben Grimm on Jun 16, 2022 17:30:53 GMT -5
So is her great-grandmother an Eternal, then? Related to Kingo? An excuse for Kingo to show up in episode three and say she's not an Eternal?
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Post by Ben Grimm on Jul 23, 2022 20:13:54 GMT -5
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Post by The Stuffingtacular She-Hulk on Jul 25, 2022 12:10:40 GMT -5
Looks fun! I just wish the CGI Jen's face moved more. Shulkie looks a little like she's had one too many Botox injections.
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on Jul 29, 2022 0:01:12 GMT -5
There is a big She-Hulk billboard here and I was curious whether it was a regular billboard using some kind of Hulk (but within the legal limits of parody) theme. A lot of the actual lawyer billboards look way more Hollywood-y so I was kind of tripped up until I saw the Disney logo in the corner.
Also, what degree is filtered/cgi and what degree is makeup? I have a bad feeling we’re going to see basically every female (and a decent number of male) actors with some kind of more-advanced filter in a few years and it will suck.
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Post by The Stuffingtacular She-Hulk on Aug 18, 2022 10:29:48 GMT -5
I haven't seen the pilot episode of She-Hulk yet, but I did watch the after-credits scene and laughed so hard I scared the cat. (Then again, he managed to scare himself into hiding behind the sofa for an hour by sneezing last night, so...) Shulkie getting hammered and crying about a hot guy dying being a waste of a gorgeous ass, then screaming "CAPTAIN AMERICA FUCKS" is absolutely in-character, so kudos to whoever wrote that bit.
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