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Post by Crash Test Dumbass on Jan 8, 2022 11:30:11 GMT -5
So Bob, a Fett has been OK for two episodes, I actually enjoy the flashbacks, but let's face it, he's really only cool entirely in the armor or entirely out of it. Mandalorians shouldn't take their helmets off, even if they are super cute like Pedro Pascal; Bob looked cool in the Tusken robes (and kind of dopey in the union suit as a prisoner), but really out of place in the armor without the helmet. The Baby Yoda Show supposedly took place 5 years after Return Of The Jedi, not long enough for Luke to grow out his beard but certainly long enough for him to have spent part of his retirement in the Uncanny Valley; the Sarlaac is supposed to spend a thousand years digesting its prey, so who knows how long Bob was in there? (I'm a little sad that they didn't go with the Tales From Jabba's Palace ending for Bib Fortuna, but Bob just shooting a spider droid wouldn't have been as cool.) In a less fanboy way, I’d be surprised if Mandalorians in general aren’t trained in that kind of thing as children, whether they stick with it or not*. Fett specifically has a pretty brawly past, so who’s to say that’s the first time he’s done that sort of fighting. idk do clones have a higher learning stat or something? Also was Bob even raised as a Mandalorian? His dad was given the armor and theoretically trained in their ways, but he was killed when Bob was only like nine. |
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Jan 8, 2022 16:33:08 GMT -5
So Bob, a Fett has been OK for two episodes, I actually enjoy the flashbacks, but let's face it, he's really only cool entirely in the armor or entirely out of it. Mandalorians shouldn't take their helmets off, even if they are super cute like Pedro Pascal; Bob looked cool in the Tusken robes (and kind of dopey in the union suit as a prisoner), but really out of place in the armor without the helmet. The Baby Yoda Show supposedly took place 5 years after Return Of The Jedi, not long enough for Luke to grow out his beard but certainly long enough for him to have spent part of his retirement in the Uncanny Valley; the Sarlaac is supposed to spend a thousand years digesting its prey, so who knows how long Bob was in there? (I'm a little sad that they didn't go with the Tales From Jabba's Palace ending for Bib Fortuna, but Bob just shooting a spider droid wouldn't have been as cool.) In a less fanboy way, I’d be surprised if Mandalorians in general aren’t trained in that kind of thing as children, whether they stick with it or not*. Fett specifically has a pretty brawly past, so who’s to say that’s the first time he’s done that sort of fighting. idk do clones have a higher learning stat or something? Also was Bob even raised as a Mandalorian? His dad was given the armor and theoretically trained in their ways, but he was killed when Bob was only like nine. Per the Clone Wars series (and Wookieepedia), after his dad was killed, Boba tried to kill Mace Windu in retaliation but failed, spent some time in prison on Coruscant, and then hung out with a bunch of bounty hunters. So no Mandalorian training at all except from his dad. |
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Post by sarapen on Jan 12, 2022 21:15:39 GMT -5
I thought that car chase in Boba Fett was rather uninspired.
Also, I was looking up stuff on Wookiepedia and ended up reading about humans in Star Wars. Half of the article is just physical descriptions. Did you know Humans are sentient bipedal mammals who average 1.80 meters in height? This is some deep fan lore here.
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Jan 12, 2022 23:18:11 GMT -5
The chase was silly, but crashing through the Jabba portrait was hilarious, the Krrstantan fight was fun, Stephen Root's cameo was fun, and Danny Trejo as the new rancor trainer is AWESOME!
Killing off the Tuskens is not awesome. You shouldn't have done that, show!
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Post by sarapen on Jan 12, 2022 23:37:26 GMT -5
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Jan 13, 2022 8:47:35 GMT -5
So far, Book of Boba Fett is enjoyable enough; I liked the fun, colorful speederbikes and kinda greaser/Back to the Future 2 motif there. And Stephen Root and Danny Trejo are always a delight. Boba wanting to make friends with the rancor was cute.
But tonally and plot-wise I'm just not sure what they're doing. The Mandalorian seemed pretty tightly plotted; this is kinda like "well, let's talk about the Tuskens a lot, and not give Ming-Na Wen much to do, and some Hutts will show up and then promptly disappear..." It's just a bit loosey goosey.
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Post by patbat on Jan 13, 2022 9:11:49 GMT -5
tbh almost none of the present-day stuff works for me. I don't know why this show isn't entirely Dances with Wolves: Tusken Edition.
I'm sorry, but the Vespa swoop gang is goofy and that chase scene...oof.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Jan 13, 2022 9:44:07 GMT -5
tbh almost none of the present-day stuff works for me. I don't know why this show isn't entirely Dances with Wolves: Tusken Edition. I'm sorry, but the Vespa swoop gang is goofy and that chase scene...oof. It kind of feels like they shot the series teaser with him taking over Jabba's palace before they actually worked out the series concept and then didn't really have a great idea where to go with that. Given how this week ended, maybe it'll finally be clear how the threads are tying together though. The chase scene was bad, but I kind of like the goofy idea of the cyborg T-Birds. |
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Post by Murray the Demonic Skull on Jan 13, 2022 10:10:28 GMT -5
tbh almost none of the present-day stuff works for me. I don't know why this show isn't entirely Dances with Wolves: Tusken Edition. I'm sorry, but the Vespa swoop gang is goofy and that chase scene...oof.
Yeah I was really down for just the Tusken stuff. That whole mod aesthetic looked goofy and not in the fun way.
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Post by Crash Test Dumbass on Jan 13, 2022 21:45:59 GMT -5
That was the most boring-ass chase scene since OJ ran from the cops and the bikers' bikes are bad and they should feel bad. The bikers themselves are OK, but I figured this frightening gang would be more than four people. The water vendor dude was even just about to shake his cane at those meddling kids.
I saw the cameo of that mechanic lady from Joepescia and yep, she was certainly on screen for like three seconds.
The time frame of this show makes no sense. There were like five years between Dances With Tuskens and Bob taking over from Bib For Tuna, but somehow everything fell apart in the five minutes since Bob took over?
I don't know how the Wookkiieee got in without anyone noticing, but at least the gang were good for something.
The fish dude that Tusken Bob was negotiating with is going to somehow matter to the armored fish dudes that came in the ship, right?
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Jan 14, 2022 11:23:05 GMT -5
I just remembered, while watching episode two last week, how amused I was by the Tuskens having a bantha with them, it getting shot, and them using it for cover - TWICE! When this happened, I thought "they really need to take better care of their animals", and then almost immediately after that there was a scene of them travelling past a herd of about 30 of them. "Oh, okay, apparently they respawn over there."
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Post by DangOlJimmyITellYouWhat on Jan 15, 2022 14:30:39 GMT -5
So far, Book of Boba Fett is enjoyable enough; I liked the fun, colorful speederbikes and kinda greaser/Back to the Future 2 motif there. And Stephen Root and Danny Trejo are always a delight. Boba wanting to make friends with the rancor was cute. But tonally and plot-wise I'm just not sure what they're doing. The Mandalorian seemed pretty tightly plotted; this is kinda like "well, let's talk about the Tuskens a lot, and not give Ming-Na Wen much to do, and some Hutts will show up and then promptly disappear..." It's just a bit loosey goosey. Yeah, it’s not very organized. I think there are 7 episodes, so hopefully the next four will be less table-setting? I agree though that it could have just been his time with the Tuskens & been more interesting. And yeah so far I am disappoint in the amount of Fennec Shand we are getting. Re: Tusken sign language, this is extremely cool, & exactly the kind of meta info I want. Honestly the paint jobs on the bikes freaked me out a little; you just don’t really get bright primary colors in Star Wars, especially on Tatooine where the sun bleaches out everything. I was very happy to see Danny Trejo, but I do have problems not just seeing him as himself. Also bringing in a baby Rancor is a liiiittle too call-backy. Yes, Fett was kind of adorable when give it scritches*, and I’m sure it’s thematically meant to be “see how like Jaba he’s not”, but using that specific monster is kinda overly. ALSO I don’t recall seeing anyone mention this, but remember the couple being harassed by the Trandoshan gang in the bar? That was Camie & Fixer!
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Post by nowimnothing on Jan 15, 2022 20:02:47 GMT -5
Honestly the paint jobs on the bikes freaked me out a little; you just don’t really get bright primary colors in Star Wars, especially on Tatooine where the sun bleaches out everything. I was very happy to see Danny Trejo, but I do have problems not just seeing him as himself. Also bringing in a baby Rancor is a liiiittle too call-backy. Yes, Fett was kind of adorable when give it scritches*, and I’m sure it’s thematically meant to be “see how like Jaba he’s not”, but using that specific monster is kinda overly. ALSO I don’t recall seeing anyone mention this, but remember the couple being harassed by the Trandoshan gang in the bar? That was Camie & Fixer!
Those bikes were awful. They looked like the things that toddlers ride on at the carnival. And they were slow, plus they had to cram in a cameo of every droid type from the series. I was all in for Trejo but overall it was too much Spy Kids and not enough Star Wars. No more Rodriguez please. Mandalorian is very clearly a Western and it works almost as well as Firefly did. I am not sure what Boba Fett is? Gangster? Western? Greaser? It is jumping all over the place and being fan servicey in the most obvious ways possible. |
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Post by DangOlJimmyITellYouWhat on Jan 19, 2022 22:11:10 GMT -5
Well this week was definitely better and more what I was expecting from the series. I haven’t caught her name but I really like Jennifer Beals’ Twi’lek lady.
I mean I could have done without the slap-sticky droids, but at least there was some decent Wookiee pullin arm out of socket action, and no more banthas got killed.
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Jan 20, 2022 9:50:47 GMT -5
Well this week was definitely better and more what I was expecting from the series. I haven’t caught her name but I really like Jennifer Beals’ Twi’lek lady. I mean I could have done without the slap-sticky droids, but at least there was some decent Wookiee pullin arm out of socket action, and no more banthas got killed. I completely expected him to roll up and just blast the crap out of the Sarlacc like he did with those asshole Nikto bikers, but I like the detail that he didn't know/remember the Jawas taking his armor, and the Sarlacc got the crap blasted out of it anyway. |
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Post by Crash Test Dumbass on Jan 20, 2022 22:27:08 GMT -5
So... was Bob just Dancing With Tuskens for five whole years? Was he in the Sarlacc for more than an hour? We're obviously up to the same timeline as The Baby Yoda Show so I am very confused.
Parts of the show felt very Lucas Remake to me, like the slapstick droid and the belching bantha, but it was cool to see how Bob and Fennic got together, and the mod shop was way cooler than the bikes were.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Jan 21, 2022 7:13:08 GMT -5
So... was Bob just Dancing With Tuskens for five whole years? Was he in the Sarlacc for more than an hour? We're obviously up to the same timeline as The Baby Yoda Show so I am very confused. Parts of the show felt very Lucas Remake to me, like the slapstick droid and the belching bantha, but it was cool to see how Bob and Fennic got together, and the mod shop was way cooler than the bikes were. I think he was just living with the Tuskens for most of the five years, but they didn't communicate that very clearly. I think the episodes Rodriguez is directing might be clashing with the ones he isn't to a certain extent. Rodriguez has a very loose, casual, B-Movie directing style that works very well for certain types of films, but is also very different from how Star Wars is usually directed. I think he's more willing to handwave stuff away that someone else might have made more of an effort to communicate, like how much time had passed while Boba was with the Tuskens. |
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Post by Prole Hole on Jan 21, 2022 11:18:53 GMT -5
So... was Bob just Dancing With Tuskens for five whole years? Was he in the Sarlacc for more than an hour? We're obviously up to the same timeline as The Baby Yoda Show so I am very confused. Parts of the show felt very Lucas Remake to me, like the slapstick droid and the belching bantha, but it was cool to see how Bob and Fennic got together, and the mod shop was way cooler than the bikes were. I think he was just living with the Tuskens for most of the five years, but they didn't communicate that very clearly. I think the episodes Rodriguez is directing might be clashing with the ones he isn't to a certain extent. Rodriguez has a very loose, casual, B-Movie directing style that works very well for certain types of films, but is also very different from how Star Wars is usually directed. I think he's more willing to handwave stuff away that someone else might have made more of an effort to communicate, like how much time had passed while Boba was with the Tuskens. It's weird because the one thing you can say about The Mandalorian is the direction is always exemplary (and, importantly, consistent), whereas the direction on this show is all over the fucking place. That bike chase last week? Yikes. And the direction rarely seems to get the best out of the material. Anyway, I'm glad we're done with the flashbacks (we are done with the flashbacks, right?) and I look forward to the show actually going somewhere. Hopefully. It's... Ok at the moment, but I'm just not feeling like it's fulfilling much of its potential right now. |
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Jan 21, 2022 16:11:06 GMT -5
Hot take: Chef Knife Droid was very good actually
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Post by nowimnothing on Jan 21, 2022 20:58:11 GMT -5
Hot take: Chef Knife Droid was very good actually But was it just making fun of General Grievous? There are so many references it is hard to tell when they are intentional or not. |
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Post by Crash Test Dumbass on Jan 26, 2022 19:35:37 GMT -5
I'm not really sure what the point of that episode of Bob, a Fett was. We got more backstory on Mando, which is cool, because he's always been a way more developed character than Bob (which is a pretty low bar, since Bob's movie backstory was pretty much "looks cool in that armor"). But I'm not really sure that it advanced the plot of this current show besides "OK, now Mando is part of the team, hooray?" Aren't there only like two episodes left? Where exactly is this show going? What was the point of bringing back Darksaber lore? Is Bob, the clone of a Mandalorian foundling, going to try to take over the Mandalorian diaspora?
It brought back the mechanic from Joepescia, so I guess her parents had really strong accents for her to have kept hers despite never having been off-world? Also did she really need that much screen time? I mean, Bob wasn't even in this episode.
I had two thoughts on the fighter ship:
1) ugh, please stop reminding us of the prequels, they were horrible
2) Where is he going to sleep? At least the Razor Crest had multiple levels and living quarters.
I'm sad for Mando getting kicked out of his clan. He did show 'nervous sweat' really well without taking off his helmet.
Also no lie, I heard this episode had a major guest star, and when it started in a meat packing plant, I was kind of hoping it would be Sylvester Stallone.
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Post by Prole Hole on Jan 27, 2022 11:52:37 GMT -5
Hey, The Mandalorian is a pretty great show, right? What a shame this isn't it.
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Post by Murray the Demonic Skull on Jan 27, 2022 12:00:27 GMT -5
I'm really always down for some star wars, I'm not picky when it comes to that franchise and I even enjoyed Solo to some extent. But that show has the weirdest story pacing and bits. That last ep was a Mandalorian ep and a pretty decent one I guess (although I never liked the N1 ship and the mechanic antics got old pretty quickly). I have no idea where the last eps will take us to but I reaaaally doubt it will be good.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Jan 27, 2022 12:34:41 GMT -5
Book of Boba Fett is enjoyable enough, but having yesterday's ep be pretty much a Mandalorian ep instead just highlighted how much better THAT show is.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Jan 27, 2022 14:18:18 GMT -5
The thing about that episode was that it felt like a season's worth of plot for the Mandalorian crammed into an episode, and it makes me wonder why they didn't just make it a season instead of running it as an episode of another show. The main reason I can think of is that it was a season without Grogu, and they figured they'd rather have it happen offscreen than go that long without their merchandising cash cow (who I like, don't get me wrong, but they are leaning into him HARD).
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Post by sarapen on Jan 27, 2022 15:03:38 GMT -5
What is it with the show's pacing? Each episode doesn't really have a central thing happening, it's just a meandering stroll through various scenes. It's kind of "A Day in the Life of a Star Wars Character" but as a TV show. Take this latest one, for instance. What would you say it's about? First there's a fight in a meatpacking plant, then Mando finds his clan, then he gets kicked out, then he flies commercial to Tattooine, then he fixes up a plane, then he gets pulled over by some cops, then he meets Ming-Na Wen, and then the credits roll.
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Post by Prole Hole on Jan 27, 2022 16:04:44 GMT -5
What is it with the show's pacing? Each episode doesn't really have a central thing happening, it's just a meandering stroll through various scenes. It's kind of "A Day in the Life of a Star Wars Character" but as a TV show. Take this latest one, for instance. What would you say it's about? First there's a fight in a meatpacking plant, then Mando finds his clan, then he gets kicked out, then he flies commercial to Tattooine, then he fixes up a plane, then he gets pulled over by some cops, then he meets Ming-Na Wen, and then the credits roll. But also one of the cops is Appa off of Kim's Convenience! Also, you are not in any way wrong. |
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Jan 28, 2022 13:59:48 GMT -5
What is it with the show's pacing? Each episode doesn't really have a central thing happening, it's just a meandering stroll through various scenes. It's kind of "A Day in the Life of a Star Wars Character" but as a TV show. Take this latest one, for instance. What would you say it's about? First there's a fight in a meatpacking plant, then Mando finds his clan, then he gets kicked out, then he flies commercial to Tattooine, then he fixes up a plane, then he gets pulled over by some cops, then he meets Ming-Na Wen, and then the credits roll. I enjoyed it but also you are not wrong. The pacing is bizarre. I thought it was great hearing Mando call the N1 "wizard". But if we're already getting another season of The Mandalorian, it seems very odd to spend an entire episode of The Big Book of Boba on him. Also, from a lore standpoint, there'd better be a good reason for having Mando get back Grogu to pal around with him and abandon his Jedi training so soon. Even if having the astromech port be a Baby Bubble is a fun idea. |
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Post by DangOlJimmyITellYouWhat on Jan 29, 2022 13:14:59 GMT -5
I'm not really sure what the point of that episode of Bob, a Fett was. We got more backstory on Mando, which is cool, because he's always been a way more developed character than Bob (which is a pretty low bar, since Bob's movie backstory was pretty much "looks cool in that armor"). But I'm not really sure that it advanced the plot of this current show besides "OK, now Mando is part of the team, hooray?" Aren't there only like two episodes left? Where exactly is this show going? What was the point of bringing back Darksaber lore? Is Bob, the clone of a Mandalorian foundling, going to try to take over the Mandalorian diaspora? It brought back the mechanic from Joepescia, so I guess her parents had really strong accents for her to have kept hers despite never having been off-world? Also did she really need that much screen time? I mean, Bob wasn't even in this episode. I had two thoughts on the fighter ship: 1) ugh, please stop reminding us of the prequels, they were horrible 2) Where is he going to sleep? At least the Razor Crest had multiple levels and living quarters. I'm sad for Mando getting kicked out of his clan. He did show 'nervous sweat' really well without taking off his helmet. Also no lie, I heard this episode had a major guest star, and when it started in a meat packing plant, I was kind of hoping it would be Sylvester Stallone. Yes, the thing with the ship annoyed me too; the Razor Crest is a HOME, and also a place to store your bounties. It was like trying to convince someone that a Miata can serve the same purpose as an RV. And it looks more and more like they have no actual plan for the show, they just want to take pictures of their action figures in cool vignettes. I don’t understand it; it’s not like it would be hard to tweak it here and there and come up with a solid “new sheriff in town” storyline. But a baby Rodman*! CUTE AF *wow thanks autocorrect. Rodian , obviously |
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Post by nowimnothing on Jan 30, 2022 5:45:21 GMT -5
But a baby Rodman*! CUTE AF *wow thanks autocorrect. Rodian , obviously As fan servicey as this thing is, he was probably the grandson of little Anakin's friend* or Greedo or something. *Apparently his name was Wald and Watto left him the junk yard when he retired. Man, I am not sure giving every thing in Star Wars a backstory is necessarily a good thing. |
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In a less fanboy way, I’d be surprised if Mandalorians in general aren’t trained in that kind of thing as children, whether they stick with it or not*. Fett specifically has a pretty brawly past, so who’s to say that’s the first time he’s done that sort of fighting. idk do clones have a higher learning stat or something? 
