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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Mar 10, 2023 17:10:51 GMT -5
Obi-Wan’s problems were that it was obviously a movie, Obi-Wan was depressed, and the Obi-Wan series inside my head—Obi-Wan the gentleman having to adjust to rough-and-tumble Tatooine—was better. I'm skeptical that even a less padded movie would have worked. I think the idea of any in-fill series that revolves around a major trilogy character is just too flawed a set-up to work, even if you've got a well-liked performer at the center of it. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on Mar 11, 2023 16:15:52 GMT -5
Superb Owl 🦉 I think it could only work if it were totally restricted to Tatooine with no empire and no Sith stuff, akin a bit to Andor’s mostly-isolation from the rest of the franchise (although still a bit more linkage given the presence of the Skywalkers).
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Mar 11, 2023 16:28:24 GMT -5
Superb Owl 🦉 I think it could only work if it were totally restricted to Tatooine with no empire and no Sith stuff, akin a bit to Andor’s mostly-isolation from the rest of the franchise (although still a bit more linkage given the presence of the Skywalkers). Maybe, although then you just run into Tatooine being so played out as a location. I think you’re right though, setting it up as lower stakes right off the bat would have been a benefit. |
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Mar 23, 2023 0:19:23 GMT -5
Okay, I am 100% on board with Kelleran Beq (aka Ahmed Best's Jedi character from the Star Wars game show a couple of years ago!) being the Jedi who saved Grogu from Order 66. That was brilliant! There's no avoiding Grogu bouncing around being some level of silly, but I do like the character development. The Death Watch need to find a new camp location. |
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Post by Ben Grimm on Mar 23, 2023 8:59:27 GMT -5
Okay, I am 100% on board with Kelleran Beq (aka Ahmed Best's Jedi character from the Star Wars game show a couple of years ago!) being the Jedi who saved Grogu from Order 66. That was brilliant! There's no avoiding Grogu bouncing around being some level of silly, but I do like the character development. The Death Watch need to find a new camp location. They're going to be on Mandalore by the end of the season. It's pretty clearly what they're building to. |
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Post by sarapen on Mar 24, 2023 7:47:24 GMT -5
The big guy has a son? Is he the guy's biological son? If so, do the cultist Mandos keep their helmets on during sex?
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Post by Ben Grimm on Mar 24, 2023 8:04:55 GMT -5
The big guy has a son? Is he the guy's biological son? If so, do the cultist Mandos keep their helmets on during sex? I thought they said he was a foundling, but I'm not 100% sure. |
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Post by nowimnothing on Mar 25, 2023 11:59:45 GMT -5
The big guy has a son? Is he the guy's biological son? If so, do the cultist Mandos keep their helmets on during sex? I thought they said he was a foundling, but I'm not 100% sure. Wookieepedia seems to indicate that the Mandalorian who brings the foundling in acts as their parent kind of like Din and Grogu. So he could be a foundling and also big buy's non-biological child. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on Mar 25, 2023 14:42:56 GMT -5
The big guy has a son? Is he the guy's biological son? If so, do the cultist Mandos keep their helmets on during sex?
If you have to ask you already know the answer
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Post by Nudeviking on Mar 28, 2023 2:50:52 GMT -5
I think I'm still getting Star Warses two weeks after the rest of y'all. I just saw the episode of Mandalorian where it was Project Paperclip in space and honestly between Andor and this episode I think the sort of Star Wars I like the best in 2023 is random guys and gals getting ground down by space bureaucracy. Just a dude in a cubicle getting slowly beaten down by the system...maybe sometimes he gets a glowing ice cream with a space lesbian who tricks him into touching a mountain...who knows! Good shit! 47 thumbs up.
Less good. I don't think I care at all about the actual Mandalorian plot anymore. All of it feels like it would probably make more sense if I watched cartoons for children or read 2008 EU novels or some shit but I didn't so I don't really care about half the shit that's happening anymore. Like when it was Lone Wolf & Cub in Space back in season 1 and the first half of season 2 it was a better show. I'm not keen on people walking on screen and being like "I'm Gorp Goozlegum..." and then there's a dramatic pause because I'm supposed to know who Gorp Goozlegum is, but I don't and I don't give a shit about anything Gorp Goozlegum has to say.
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Post by sarapen on Mar 28, 2023 12:28:19 GMT -5
I think I'm still getting Star Warses two weeks after the rest of y'all. I just saw the episode of Mandalorian where it was Project Paperclip in space and honestly between Andor and this episode I think the sort of Star Wars I like the best in 2023 is random guys and gals getting ground down by space bureaucracy. Just a dude in a cubicle getting slowly beaten down by the system...maybe sometimes he gets a glowing ice cream with a space lesbian who tricks him into touching a mountain...who knows! Good shit! 47 thumbs up. Less good. I don't think I care at all about the actual Mandalorian plot anymore. All of it feels like it would probably make more sense if I watched cartoons for children or read 2008 EU novels or some shit but I didn't so I don't really care about half the shit that's happening anymore. Like when it was Lone Wolf & Cub in Space back in season 1 and the first half of season 2 it was a better show. I'm not keen on people walking on screen and being like "I'm Gorp Goozlegum..." and then there's a dramatic pause because I'm supposed to know who Gorp Goozlegum is, but I don't and I don't give a shit about anything Gorp Goozlegum has to say. The thing about the Andor rehash is that Andor did it better. Pretty sure the Top Gun dogfight at the start of the episode was also filmed on the rocky hills of Scotland so it's like a mini-copy of the first bit of Andor. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on Mar 28, 2023 16:57:14 GMT -5
Nudeviking I know a few guys into the 90s-00s EU and according to them a lot of recent Star Wars has basically been reinventing the wheel, with a lot of stuff happening the same just in different form. Multiple Palpatines is one of the more obvious instances of this from my understanding but I think there are other cases too (not being that familiar with the EU a lot goes over my head). I do find the idea that the original trilogy led to a sort of path-dependence in what comes next—you find yourself in the same channels regardless of what you try—interestring just in a narratological sort of way though.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Mar 28, 2023 17:57:34 GMT -5
Nudeviking I know a few guys into the 90s-00s EU and according to them a lot of recent Star Wars has basically been reinventing the wheel, with a lot of stuff happening the same just in different form. Multiple Palpatines is one of the more obvious instances of this from my understanding but I think there are other cases too (not being that familiar with the EU a lot goes over my head). I do find the idea that the original trilogy led to a sort of path-dependence in what comes next—you find yourself in the same channels regardless of what you try—interestring just in a narratological sort of way though. About half of Episode IX was taken straight from Dark Empire, a comic from the early 90s, and I strongly suspect the big Mandalorian/Ahsoka/etc. crossover is going to be a loose adaptation of the Heir to the Empire trilogy. Plus the old EU had one of Han and Leia's kids turn bad like Kylo Ren. Lucasfilm is treating the discarded EU like Marvel is treating their comics: like a big trove of material to remix into the new franchise. |
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Post by Nudeviking on Mar 28, 2023 22:01:47 GMT -5
I think I'm still getting Star Warses two weeks after the rest of y'all. I just saw the episode of Mandalorian where it was Project Paperclip in space and honestly between Andor and this episode I think the sort of Star Wars I like the best in 2023 is random guys and gals getting ground down by space bureaucracy. Just a dude in a cubicle getting slowly beaten down by the system...maybe sometimes he gets a glowing ice cream with a space lesbian who tricks him into touching a mountain...who knows! Good shit! 47 thumbs up. Less good. I don't think I care at all about the actual Mandalorian plot anymore. All of it feels like it would probably make more sense if I watched cartoons for children or read 2008 EU novels or some shit but I didn't so I don't really care about half the shit that's happening anymore. Like when it was Lone Wolf & Cub in Space back in season 1 and the first half of season 2 it was a better show. I'm not keen on people walking on screen and being like "I'm Gorp Goozlegum..." and then there's a dramatic pause because I'm supposed to know who Gorp Goozlegum is, but I don't and I don't give a shit about anything Gorp Goozlegum has to say. The thing about the Andor rehash is that Andor did it better. Pretty sure the Top Gun dogfight at the start of the episode was also filmed on the rocky hills of Scotland so it's like a mini-copy of the first bit of Andor. I do agree that Andor did it better but I also wonder if the similarities in the Imperial Guy Gets Depressed in a Cubicle plotlines were at all intentional. Like I assume that someone is overseeing Star Wars as an overall thing but I don't what that entails or what the production schedules for these things look like. |
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Post by Ben Grimm on Mar 29, 2023 6:18:35 GMT -5
Ironically, today had one of the best Gorp Goozlegum moments on the show so far, and since Gorp didn't actively identify himself onscreen, I had to check after the fact to make sure it was, in fact, Gorp Goozlegum. Which it was.
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Mar 29, 2023 18:35:29 GMT -5
Ironically, today had one of the best Gorp Goozlegum moments on the show so far, and since Gorp didn't actively identify himself onscreen, I had to check after the fact to make sure it was, in fact, Gorp Goozlegum. Which it was. HOORAY FOR GORP GOOZLEGUM! And Tim Meadows! And some fantastic action! |
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Post by Nudeviking on Mar 30, 2023 19:26:46 GMT -5
Think I'm over the Mandalorian parts of The Mandalorian TV show. The episode I watched yesterday had Mandalorian Big, Mandalorian Original Recipe, and Mandalorian for Ladies fight stupid chicken-dragons and it just kind sucked while there was also a goodass flashback to Baby Yoder escaping Order 66 with a motorcycle chase and action that felt way more moving than the Killing of the Younglings as depicted in the actual movie. I want more of that shit and less "a bunch of helmeted people in dust."
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Post by Nudeviking on Apr 6, 2023 20:20:28 GMT -5
Decided to give The Mandalorian one more shot and I really, really think I kind of don't like the Mandalorian anymore. The episode I saw last night was like entirely "This is a guy you are supposed to know about from some cartoon show or video game or something" Geep Gorglum guys and I hated it. Also Asian Dad Space Cop just being like, "Pirates? Imperial remnants? CLEARLY THESE TWO THINGS ARE CONNECTED!" was the stupidest leap in logical I've seen in a TV show in a long time.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Apr 7, 2023 7:34:06 GMT -5
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Apr 7, 2023 9:09:38 GMT -5
All I have to say is AAAAAAH!   I realize this is GLUP SHITTO TIMES TWELVE, but it is awesome seeing the entire (surviving) Ghost crew from Rebels in live action, including the cameo from last week's Mandalorian. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on Apr 7, 2023 16:58:34 GMT -5
Isn’t it more like Glub Shitto times 144 since they’re also including stuff from the nineties novels? I feel like I’ve absorbed a lot of them via the internet and hope that black-clad lightsaber-wielding guy is the clone of a fallen Jedi, preferably one with two identical syllables in a row in his name.
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Apr 7, 2023 17:53:37 GMT -5
Isn’t it more like Glub Shitto times 144 since they’re also including stuff from the nineties novels? I feel like I’ve absorbed a lot of them via the internet and hope that black-clad lightsaber-wielding guy is the clone of a fallen Jedi, preferably one with two identical syllables in a row in his name. Yeah...I mean, I am sad that the whole Luke/Mara Jade relationship is completely gone, but I am definitely up for a new version of Heir to the Empire with the Rebels crew instead. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on Apr 7, 2023 18:35:25 GMT -5
Chewie’s gonna get crushed by a moon for the second time
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on Apr 12, 2023 17:08:53 GMT -5
I have to admit watching 30-something Star Wars diehards is much better to me than any of the actual shows. After weeks of lamenting the reintroduction of Glup Shitto after Glup Shitto they have brought in Gilead Pellaeon(?) and are thrilled.
Not being mean—they are legit excited and it’s completely absurd and it’s very rewarding to watch
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Post by Nudeviking on Apr 12, 2023 18:57:33 GMT -5
Lousy "Planet Guest Star" episode of Mando. The more I see of this most recent season the more I realize that there was absolutely no reason to get that Baby Yoder back (in a completely different show no less) as early as they did. The only thing he really did this season was something that he had no business doing (flying a goddamn spaceshit) in a script that could very easily have been tweaked to not require it anyway. That said Lizzo being clearly in love with the Baby Yoder puppet was great and second only to Werner Herzog being legit in love with that same puppet in terms of Good Shit from Mando: The TV Show.
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Post by sarapen on Apr 13, 2023 8:33:04 GMT -5
So from the Ahsoka trailer and from the Mando bits it really looks like the Thrawn books are getting adapted to live action, or at least the parts that fit into the existing setting and aren't dumb (come on, Force-nullifying iguanas?). Since there is no live action Mara Jade yet, I wonder how many middle-aged men will die of a stroke if it turns out Ahsoka is the Mara Jade and her show ends with her marrying Thrawn.
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Post by Nudeviking on Apr 19, 2023 9:30:46 GMT -5
That Baby Yoder walking around inside the bones of a dead robot mashing a button that made the robot bellow, "YES! YES! YES! YES!" repeatedly might be the most accurate depiction of life with a toddler I've ever seen in media.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Apr 20, 2023 12:33:57 GMT -5
Man, as much as I hate anything that feeds into the YouTube Fan Industrial Complex, they could have thrown like a twist into the Mando season finale.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Apr 20, 2023 12:38:12 GMT -5
I have to admit watching 30-something Star Wars diehards is much better to me than any of the actual shows. After weeks of lamenting the reintroduction of Glup Shitto after Glup Shitto they have brought in Gilead Pellaeon(?) and are thrilled. Not being mean—they are legit excited and it’s completely absurd and it’s very rewarding to watch It is funny and I am a 30-something that was ALL IN on EU novels as a youth. I don't want to pat myself on the back too hard for developing other interests and a full life or whatever but...finding a character/ship/weapon/monster TOTALLY BADASS as a 13 year old doesn't make it inherently valuable (or, to be fair, necessarily bad!). And Pellaeon in particular was defined as "competent guy who worked for the actually interesting character". |
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Apr 20, 2023 19:07:33 GMT -5
I think I'm still getting Star Warses two weeks after the rest of y'all. I just saw the episode of Mandalorian where it was Project Paperclip in space and honestly between Andor and this episode I think the sort of Star Wars I like the best in 2023 is random guys and gals getting ground down by space bureaucracy. Just a dude in a cubicle getting slowly beaten down by the system...maybe sometimes he gets a glowing ice cream with a space lesbian who tricks him into touching a mountain...who knows! Good shit! 47 thumbs up. Less good. I don't think I care at all about the actual Mandalorian plot anymore. All of it feels like it would probably make more sense if I watched cartoons for children or read 2008 EU novels or some shit but I didn't so I don't really care about half the shit that's happening anymore. Like when it was Lone Wolf & Cub in Space back in season 1 and the first half of season 2 it was a better show. I'm not keen on people walking on screen and being like "I'm Gorp Goozlegum..." and then there's a dramatic pause because I'm supposed to know who Gorp Goozlegum is, but I don't and I don't give a shit about anything Gorp Goozlegum has to say. The best part of the finale actually might have been that last conversation with New Republic X-Wing Pilot Mr. Kim that seemed explicitly designed to assure the audience that they'd be getting back to that mode in season 4. Actually touches on another thing I've wondered about since the new movie announcements: to what extent are they going to keep leaning HARD into the full MCU integration model or have they started to realize that eventually that becomes a massive turn-off for people? |
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