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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Dec 6, 2019 8:55:51 GMT -5
Okay, Powerthirteen, as our resident Mariners expert, what can Brewers fans expect from Omar Narvaez? Is his defense really as staggeringly bad as I'm hearing?
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Post by Powerthirteen on Dec 6, 2019 11:27:57 GMT -5
Okay, Powerthirteen , as our resident Mariners expert, what can Brewers fans expect from Omar Narvaez? Is his defense really as staggeringly bad as I'm hearing? I regret that he is definitely a step down from the guy he's replacing, although tbf most catchers are. The Brewers aren't taking him for his defnse though; his bat is above average for a catcher, and he netted out to 2.5 WAR last year, which is not the end of the world.
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Dec 6, 2019 11:47:51 GMT -5
I regret that he is definitely a step down from the guy he's replacing, although tbf most catchers are. The Brewers aren't taking him for his defnse though; his bat is above average for a catcher, and he netted out to 2.5 WAR last year, which is not the end of the world. Okay! Thanks! I guess he's better than having literally no catcher, or worse yet, the guy they've got in AAA...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2020 23:29:08 GMT -5
This has been one of the worst offseasons in recent memory. All the Astros shit, a whiney ass debate over Jeter not getting one vote, god forbid. Then Mookie gets traded for basically nothing. There is a bigger trend than ever in sports(except NBA) where teams are more than willing to give up super duper stars for "assests" when the whole point of hoarding assests is to be able to get lucky and have a super duper mega star, or so they want people to believe. Owners are just greedy bastards.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Feb 7, 2020 23:30:47 GMT -5
This has been one of the worst offseasons in recent memory. All the Astros shit, a whiney ass debate over Jeter not getting one vote, god forbid. Then Mookie gets traded for basically nothing. There is a bigger trend than ever in sports(except NBA) where teams are more than willing to give up super duper stars for "assests" when the whole point of hoarding assests is to be able to get lucky and have a super duper mega star, or so they want people to believe. Owners are just greedy bastards.
This is pretty much correct. As a fan of a team that competes against the Dodgers, it really sucked.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2020 23:44:43 GMT -5
This has been one of the worst offseasons in recent memory. All the Astros shit, a whiney ass debate over Jeter not getting one vote, god forbid. Then Mookie gets traded for basically nothing. There is a bigger trend than ever in sports(except NBA) where teams are more than willing to give up super duper stars for "assests" when the whole point of hoarding assests is to be able to get lucky and have a super duper mega star, or so they want people to believe. Owners are just greedy bastards.
This is pretty much correct. As a fan of a team that competes against the Dodgers, it really sucked.
Don't worry, they will just find another way to lose the World Series.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Feb 8, 2020 17:48:29 GMT -5
This is pretty much correct. As a fan of a team that competes against the Dodgers, it really sucked.
Don't worry, they will just find another way to lose the World Series. I do enjoy watching them lose in the playoffs.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 18:31:28 GMT -5
This Astros thing just keeps getting worse.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2020 11:33:07 GMT -5
I'm with the commish on the title just being a piece of metal. Stripping the titles doesn't do shit. It happened, it is in the past. You can't just magically say the dodgers are the champs now.
Also, sadly the suspending players is going to get stopped. What should happen though, bar the Astros from the postseason for two to three years. Players still play and get their money. It also sets a precedent to curb this shit.
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Post by Albert Fish Taco on Feb 18, 2020 15:15:03 GMT -5
I'm with the commish on the title just being a piece of metal. Stripping the titles doesn't do shit. It happened, it is in the past. You can't just magically say the dodgers are the champs now. Also, sadly the suspending players is going to get stopped. What should happen though, bar the Astros from the postseason for two to three years. Players still play and get their money. It also sets a precedent to curb this shit. One issue with barring the Astros from postseason play is that you could penalize players that weren’t on the 2017-19 Astros but got traded there or signed there this offseason. As it is knowing that their window for winning another World Series is closed (between losing Cole and getting stuck with a retread like Baker at the helm I see them as at best a mid-90s wins team) and everyone will be tainted may be the most that’ll happen.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2020 15:25:49 GMT -5
I'm with the commish on the title just being a piece of metal. Stripping the titles doesn't do shit. It happened, it is in the past. You can't just magically say the dodgers are the champs now. Also, sadly the suspending players is going to get stopped. What should happen though, bar the Astros from the postseason for two to three years. Players still play and get their money. It also sets a precedent to curb this shit. One issue with barring the Astros from postseason play is that you could penalize players that weren’t on the 2017-19 Astros but got traded there or signed there this offseason. As it is knowing that their window for winning another World Series is closed (between losing Cole and getting stuck with a retread like Baker at the helm I see them as at best a mid-90s wins team) and everyone will be tainted may be the most that’ll happen. I see that as a feature and not a bug. It keeps free agents from going there, and pisses off people who are traded there(it also means the astros are more likely to be sellers, because they have nothing to play for) and they definitely won't stay there when the contract is up. 2 to 3 years is short enough where the prospects won't care.
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Post by Albert Fish Taco on Feb 19, 2020 13:25:22 GMT -5
I suspect the biggest reason punishments weren’t as severe is that there will be a steady drop over the next two years of it coming out that other teams also did things that were bad (through probably not quite as egregious as what the Astros did). I’m still curious what the Red Sox punishment will be.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 13:34:46 GMT -5
I suspect the biggest reason punishments weren’t as severe is that there will be a steady drop over the next two years of it coming out that other teams also did things that were bad (through probably not quite as egregious as what the Astros did). I’m still curious what the Red Sox punishment will be. I think the reason the Red Sox punishment is taking so long is that Manfed can't just sweep it under the rug with the reactions to the Astros. He also can't actually punish the Red Sox more than the Astros because he already set a precedent and the Sox would appeal and likely win. I believe most reports have indicated the Red Sox wasn't as bad as what the Astros did, so that also adds a bigger wrinkle to it all.
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Feb 20, 2020 10:31:04 GMT -5
I suspect the biggest reason punishments weren’t as severe is that there will be a steady drop over the next two years of it coming out that other teams also did things that were bad (through probably not quite as egregious as what the Astros did). I’m still curious what the Red Sox punishment will be. Yeah, it seemed to me when the Astros punishment was announced that it was the shot across the bow for the rest of the league, rather than the "THROW THE BUMS OUT!" kind of thing that the internet was demanding. Perhaps I'm a cynic ( perhaps?!?), but I find it really naive to think that the Astros were isolated in this kind of behavior. The groundswell of outrage from individual players right now all smacks to me of Rafael Palmiero's PED testimony to Congress. My two cents on the whole thing is that I agree with @matt1 that vacating their title is an empty gesture, but it also seems like barring them from postseason play would create a weird competitive imbalance in the league -- I'm not sure what the real-world ramifications of that would be for the rest of the teams. At the end of the day, Manfred made it very clear back in 2017 that he was going to hold management responsible for sign-stealing infractions, and that's what he ended up doing. For all the continuing outrage that "nothing happened" to the Astros to punish them, well... four really high-profile guys lost their jobs and likely will never work in baseball again (oh yeah, and also Taubman, but I think everyone can agree that fuck that guy), and they lost a handful of draft picks. I can't imagine that Luhnow, Hinch, Cora, and Beltran think nothing happened.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Feb 22, 2020 17:07:46 GMT -5
I also think there is no point to vacating their title.
However, the idea of banning them from postseason play for 2-3 seasons is somewhat appealing. That would seem to me to be a real deterrent. The players involved should also be receiving baseball activity bans.
And yes, of course other teams are also attempting to steal signs. I'm just not sure how what Manfred did is any sort of deterrent. It feels toothless. Banning the management seems ridiculous since their own investigation determined that it was a "Player-led" system of cheating. Not that I'm against punishing the managers, but it seems hollow when the players involved weren't also punished.
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Post by Powerthirteen on Mar 2, 2020 13:45:16 GMT -5
Every year I am astounded again by the Cardinals' broadcast team's enthusiasm for kissing the team's ass and generally describing everything the Cards do as being just short of divinely inspired.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 16:49:52 GMT -5
Yelich is reportedly going to get 9 years and over 200 mil(possibly over 250). Yelich needs a better agent. Gerrit Cole made 334 mil for 9 years. Yelich should get at least that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 19:16:10 GMT -5
Yelich is reportedly going to get 9 years and over 200 mil(possibly over 250). Yelich needs a better agent. Gerrit Cole made 334 mil for 9 years. Yelich should get at least that. Looks like it will be 215, a fucking pittance of what he deserves. Also, in the early reports all they said were "well over 200" 215 is not well over.
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Mar 11, 2020 10:35:52 GMT -5
Yelich is reportedly going to get 9 years and over 200 mil(possibly over 250). Yelich needs a better agent. Gerrit Cole made 334 mil for 9 years. Yelich should get at least that. As a Brewers fan, I am delighted with the work Yelich's agent has done.
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Post by Nudeviking on May 7, 2020 0:39:37 GMT -5
Baseball is back in South Korea! Games are being played in empty stadiums with piped in audio of cheering crowds. According to both my dad and younger sister in separate text messages it's airing on ESPN in the states because everyone there is so starved for new sport content that they're willing to randomly watch a bunch of guys they've never heard of pop dingers and flip bats to get their sporting fix.
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Post by Powerthirteen on May 7, 2020 10:01:44 GMT -5
Baseball is back in South Korea! Games are being played in empty stadiums with piped in audio of cheering crowds. According to both my dad and younger sister in separate text messages it's airing on ESPN in the states because everyone there is so starved for new sport content that they're willing to randomly watch a bunch of guys they've never heard of pop dingers and flip bats to get their sporting fix. I watched a re-airing of the first game of the season. The piped-in crowd noise is creepy.
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Post by Nudeviking on May 7, 2020 19:05:51 GMT -5
Baseball is back in South Korea! Games are being played in empty stadiums with piped in audio of cheering crowds. According to both my dad and younger sister in separate text messages it's airing on ESPN in the states because everyone there is so starved for new sport content that they're willing to randomly watch a bunch of guys they've never heard of pop dingers and flip bats to get their sporting fix. I watched a re-airing of the first game of the season. The piped-in crowd noise is creepy. Yeah it's kind of weird but according to the announcer during the game I watched yesterday it was for the edification of the players who are apparently accustomed to doing their thing with roaring crowds so I kind of see why they'd do it. Also, having watched a bunch of audience-less professional wrestling matches these past couple months that did not pipe in crowd sounds I can confirm that is equally as creepy as the canned roar of the crowd if not more so.
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Post by Powerthirteen on May 7, 2020 19:28:39 GMT -5
I watched a re-airing of the first game of the season. The piped-in crowd noise is creepy. Yeah it's kind of weird but according to the announcer during the game I watched yesterday it was for the edification of the players who are apparently accustomed to doing their thing with roaring crowds so I kind of see why they'd do it. Also, having watched a bunch of audience-less professional wrestling matches these past couple months that did not pipe in crowd sounds I can confirm that is equally as creepy as the canned roar of the crowd if not more so. I didn't notice any "roar," just low-level background chatter at all times, and I don't know if that's creepier or not.
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Post by MyNameIsNoneOfYourGoddamnBusin on Jul 23, 2020 7:35:17 GMT -5
Anyone wanna take bets on how many days they get in before cancelling the season due to new infections and quarantines?
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Jul 24, 2020 10:30:19 GMT -5
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Post by Desert Dweller on Jul 25, 2020 17:44:03 GMT -5
Well, there was honest-to-goodness real baseball played yesterday and today. I honestly did not believe this would happen.
Excellent! I look forward to the DBacks getting crushed by the Dodgers and/or MLB shutting down the whole season due to a COVID outbreak.
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Post by Powerthirteen on Jul 25, 2020 18:44:39 GMT -5
The new extra-innings rule is the dumbest fucking gimmick imaginable.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Jul 25, 2020 18:50:11 GMT -5
The new extra-innings rule is the dumbest fucking gimmick imaginable. AMEN!
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Jul 27, 2020 17:45:07 GMT -5
So, uh... we shouldn't really be expecting much more baseball now, should we?
(Based on the Brewers' opening weekend, I'm not sure how much more of this I can take anyway...)
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Post by Nudeviking on Jul 27, 2020 23:58:37 GMT -5
That was fun while it lasted...
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