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Post by nowimnothing on Dec 10, 2014 16:59:24 GMT -5
I'm not very jaded about the original trilogy, sure Jedi has Ewoks. It also has Jabba's palace and barge sequence, speeder bike chase, giant space battle, Luke vs. Vader... So I can't really agree with an opinion that Sith is better than Jedi. It seems objectively false if you just look at the salient events in each film and how they are delivered. Sith has one or two fun things in it, delivered badly. Jedi has lots of great stuff delivered well. But everybody just goes "EWOKS!!!" Points in favor of Sith: 1. Opening dogfight before they start talking. 2. R2D2 fights droids 3. Mace and Palpatine fight 4. Order 66 5. Yoda knocks out the imperial guards and catches the force lightning. 6. Vader and Obi Wan fight Points in favor of Jedi: 1. Rancor 2. Sarlacc/Jabba 3. speeder chase 4. C3P0 telling the story to the Ewoks 5. Luke and Vader fight
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Post by Nudeviking on Dec 10, 2014 18:58:14 GMT -5
I'm not very jaded about the original trilogy, sure Jedi has Ewoks. It also has Jabba's palace and barge sequence, speeder bike chase, giant space battle, Luke vs. Vader... So I can't really agree with an opinion that Sith is better than Jedi. It seems objectively false if you just look at the salient events in each film and how they are delivered. Sith has one or two fun things in it, delivered badly. Jedi has lots of great stuff delivered well. But everybody just goes "EWOKS!!!" Points in favor of Sith: 1. Opening dogfight before they start talking. 2. R2D2 fights droids 3. Mace and Palpatine fight 4. Order 66 5. Yoda knocks out the imperial guards and catches the force lightning. 6. Vader and Obi Wan fight Points in favor of Jedi: 1. Rancor 2. Sarlacc/Jabba 3. speeder chase 4. C3P0 telling the story to the Ewoks 5. Luke and Vader fight Let me add some if I may... Points in favor of Sith: 1. Samuel L. Jackson Points in favor of Jedi: 1. Everything Lando 2. Nien Nunb's laugh 3. "IT'S A TWAP!!!" 4. Original non-CGI scuzzy puppet Max Reebo band 5. Carrie Fisher Bikini Edition
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Post by ganews on Dec 10, 2014 19:03:54 GMT -5
Sir Alec Guinness Jabba the Hut dialogue, HO HO HO HO HO Admiral Ackbar AT-STs and now young Skywalker . . . you will die
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Post by Nudeviking on Dec 10, 2014 19:22:04 GMT -5
Sir Alec Guinness Jabba the Hut dialogue, HO HO HO HO HO Admiral Ackbar AT-STs and now young Skywalker . . . you will die I recently got Mrs. Viking to watch the original trilogy and she loved Jabba's dialogue, and I suppose Huttese in general which she declared to be, "a third random English words, a third laughing like Santa Claus and a third fake 'bumpa gumba wagga wonga,' sounds."
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Post by nowimnothing on Dec 11, 2014 8:04:13 GMT -5
Points in favor of Sith: 1. Opening dogfight before they start talking. 2. R2D2 fights droids 3. Mace and Palpatine fight 4. Order 66 5. Yoda knocks out the imperial guards and catches the force lightning. 6. Vader and Obi Wan fight Points in favor of Jedi: 1. Rancor 2. Sarlacc/Jabba 3. speeder chase 4. C3P0 telling the story to the Ewoks 5. Luke and Vader fight Let me add some if I may... Points in favor of Sith: 1. Samuel L. Jackson Points in favor of Jedi: 1. Everything Lando 2. Nien Nunb's laugh 3. "IT'S A TWAP!!!" 4. Original non-CGI scuzzy puppet Max Reebo band 5. Carrie Fisher Bikini Edition Come on, Max Reebo is awful, the only thing worse is the CGI abomination it was replaced with.
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Post by Nudeviking on Dec 11, 2014 9:11:23 GMT -5
Let me add some if I may... Points in favor of Sith: 1. Samuel L. Jackson Points in favor of Jedi: 1. Everything Lando 2. Nien Nunb's laugh 3. "IT'S A TWAP!!!" 4. Original non-CGI scuzzy puppet Max Reebo band 5. Carrie Fisher Bikini Edition Come on, Max Reebo is awful, the only thing worse is the CGI abomination it was replaced with. Max Reebo is the premiere jizz musician on Tatooine!
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Post by flowsthead on Dec 11, 2014 19:00:27 GMT -5
I'm not very jaded about the original trilogy, sure Jedi has Ewoks. It also has Jabba's palace and barge sequence, speeder bike chase, giant space battle, Luke vs. Vader... So I can't really agree with an opinion that Sith is better than Jedi. It seems objectively false if you just look at the salient events in each film and how they are delivered. Sith has one or two fun things in it, delivered badly. Jedi has lots of great stuff delivered well. But everybody just goes "EWOKS!!!" I agree with this. The script for Sith is terrible. I thought Clones was better provided you exclude the romance sections. The fucking buddy cop comedy dialogue in the beginning between Anakin and Obi Wan was horrendous. It put me off for most of the film.
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Dec 11, 2014 20:57:28 GMT -5
Not only the Ewoks, but a second death star with a similar vulnerability!? The Second Death Star didn't have a similar vulnerability! They were able to blow it up because it was incomplete, meaning they could literally just fly right to the core and shoot that from the inside (as opposed to Luke finding one critical exhaust vent.) Oh and one point in Jedi's favour - this part of the soundtrack:
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Post by Lone Locust of the Apocalypse on Dec 11, 2014 21:24:56 GMT -5
The Emperor is so awesome in Jedi.
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Post by Nudeviking on Dec 11, 2014 21:29:04 GMT -5
The Emperor is so awesome in Jedi. He's such a gross old man. When Return of the Jedi was a new movie the toy company Kenner had some promotion where if you mailed in X number of proofs of purchase they would send you a limited edition Emperor action figure. I saved up those proofs of purchase and mailed them in and you know what?! Those sons of bitches at Kenner never sent me my Emperor action figure...and that's why I went to a state school instead of a brand name university.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2014 0:17:13 GMT -5
Not only the Ewoks, but a second death star with a similar vulnerability!? The Second Death Star didn't have a similar vulnerability! They were able to blow it up because it was incomplete, meaning they could literally just fly right to the core and shoot that from the inside (as opposed to Luke finding one critical exhaust vent.) Oh and one point in Jedi's favour - this part of the soundtrack: I've always loved that part of the score. John Williams is amazing.
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Post by nowimnothing on Dec 12, 2014 8:57:39 GMT -5
Not only the Ewoks, but a second death star with a similar vulnerability!? The Second Death Star didn't have a similar vulnerability! They were able to blow it up because it was incomplete, meaning they could literally just fly right to the core and shoot that from the inside (as opposed to Luke finding one critical exhaust vent.) Oh and one point in Jedi's favour - this part of the soundtrack: But you would think if your first battlestation was destroyed by someone blowing up the core you would take at least some means to protect it first, even before completing the rest of the superstructure. Relying solely on a moon-based deflector shield and a legion of Stormtroopers when you know you are going to be attacked seems foolhardy at best. They should have hidden a second completed deathstar with the imperial fleet and used the other as a decoy.
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Post by NerdInTheBasement on Dec 12, 2014 9:00:49 GMT -5
This is great.
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Post by nowimnothing on Dec 12, 2014 9:05:26 GMT -5
"Anakin vs. Obi-Wan" is great just because it has that epic feel but also samples so much of the classic soundtrack in order to invoke all the feelings involved:
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Post by ganews on Dec 12, 2014 9:30:48 GMT -5
Hey, you got Anderson in my Tarantino!
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Post by flowsthead on Dec 14, 2014 0:40:08 GMT -5
The Second Death Star didn't have a similar vulnerability! They were able to blow it up because it was incomplete, meaning they could literally just fly right to the core and shoot that from the inside (as opposed to Luke finding one critical exhaust vent.) Oh and one point in Jedi's favour - this part of the soundtrack: But you would think if your first battlestation was destroyed by someone blowing up the core you would take at least some means to protect it first, even before completing the rest of the superstructure. Relying solely on a moon-based deflector shield and a legion of Stormtroopers when you know you are going to be attacked seems foolhardy at best. They should have hidden a second completed deathstar with the imperial fleet and used the other as a decoy. The whole thing really doesn't hold up to this kind of scrutiny. The shield is there so it can be active before it's fully completed. You can't just build these things right away, and it has to look somewhat vulnerable so that the Rebels will fall into the trap. But I mean, they could have just killed all of the Rebels when they first caught them instead of holding them hostage. The Ewoks by themselves wouldn't have been able to take down the shield generator. And it makes no sense for the Star Destroyers to be so far away. As soon as the Rebels are there the Star Destroyers should be coming on top of them and killing them. There's no point to dragging the thing out except for dramatic effect. It's much clearer that these are kids movies in the original trilogy. You can't argue that as effectively with the parliament scenes in the prequel series. Most kids aren't going to be dissecting the battle tactics and strategies of the films, they're just gonna be excited by the action and drama.
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Post by Carade on Apr 16, 2015 13:23:46 GMT -5
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Post by NerdInTheBasement on Apr 16, 2015 13:25:43 GMT -5
ITS SO BEAUTIFUL
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Post by Carade on Apr 16, 2015 13:30:03 GMT -5
Harrison Ford still has the Han Solo glint in his eye. God bless him.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2015 14:29:43 GMT -5
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Post by pairesta on Apr 16, 2015 14:35:57 GMT -5
Shot of the crashed star destroyer: my pants blew off.
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Post by NerdInTheBasement on Apr 16, 2015 14:38:50 GMT -5
This has been me for the past hour
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Post by nowimnothing on Apr 16, 2015 15:22:52 GMT -5
Ok, I am a big dork so I just noticed that the lightsaber that is being handed off (maybe from Leia to her daughter?) is Anakin's blue one that Obi Wan gave to Luke and Luke lost with his hand in Cloud City.
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Post by nowimnothing on Apr 16, 2015 15:24:47 GMT -5
I also like the new (more) fascist direction for the stormtroopers with the modified red Empire logo.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 9:59:31 GMT -5
POTENTIAL SPOILER ALERT
I have heard rumors that the silver stormtrooper in the trailer is none other than Gwendolyn Christie, Brienne of Tarth in GoT. Observe the stormtroopers gait with slight hip-sway...so basically, a 6'5" female in silver and red armor. AWESOME!
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Post by MarkInTexas on Apr 17, 2015 10:39:23 GMT -5
To mix movie references--I need a DeLorean to take me to December 19, right now (right after I find out who actually won the 2015 World Series--no, it won't be the Cubs, no matter how well their season has started).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 14:13:29 GMT -5
Does the hand that is giving the lightsaber look ... orange, to anyone?
Is Ahsoka Tano making her big screen appearance?
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Post by nowimnothing on Apr 18, 2015 1:59:14 GMT -5
Have they said that the cartoons are canon for the new films? I know the post-Jedi EU is out but the more recent Clone Wars stuff could be interesting to incorporate.
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Post by rimjobflashmob on Apr 18, 2015 11:28:23 GMT -5
Have they said that the cartoons are canon for the new films? I know the post-Jedi EU is out but the more recent Clone Wars stuff could be interesting to incorporate. Yes, Clone Wars is canon. It's basically only the Clone Wars cartoons and six films.
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Post by NerdInTheBasement on Oct 18, 2015 11:06:42 GMT -5
New poster is out! The final trailer comes out tomorrow night!
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