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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Feb 9, 2014 21:21:04 GMT -5
Hmmm, I think we might have broken Marcus Smart.
And I agree, McDermott is fun to watch. It's going to be tough for Creighton fans next year when he's gone and they all realize his dad is a lousy coach.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2014 1:00:38 GMT -5
Welp, looks like both ISU and KU took it on the chin tonight. Hard to fathom how Ejim comes off a 48 point scoring burst with a 6 point, 1-9 FG performance. KU, on the other hand, rarely looked confident and was very lucky to even make it to OT in the Sunflower State Showdown.
On the upside for our conference, KSU appears to have punched their tourney ticket by now, and West Virginia is PROBABLY still on the wrong side of the bubble but slowly building a late-season case for a bid.
Meanwhile, the conference with the most ranked top 25 teams is currently the American Athletic Conference. Strange days. . .
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Feb 11, 2014 9:28:00 GMT -5
I have no clue what the hell happened last night. The only things I can think of are A) the team is still coming down off the high of the Okie State game and Ejim's explosion, and B) the staff has been distracted by all the drama with Rashad Vaughn's recruitment this week.
So much for carrying the momentum from Stillwater into a big second half run I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2014 9:38:55 GMT -5
Superb Owl 🦉 I don't really know how to explain ISU last night, either. As a team that relies on their 3-point shooting more than most, and one lacking in post presence for the most part, it's not unsurprising that they will have off-nights where the threes don't fall and they will struggle. Still, last night was ugly.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Feb 11, 2014 9:43:19 GMT -5
Superb Owl 🦉 I don't really know how to explain ISU last night, either. As a team that relies on their 3-point shooting more than most, and one lacking in post presence for the most part, it's not unsurprising that they will have off-nights where the threes don't fall and they will struggle. Still, last night was ugly. Usually we'd at least be able to ride Niang down low or have Kane generate some points by driving and getting to the line. They just couldn't get ANYTHING going last night. I'm not surprised that they lost, but to just get blown out almost from the opening tip was not expected at all.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2014 13:46:54 GMT -5
Hmmm, I think we might have broken Marcus Smart. Really hoping that guy didn't just call him "a piece of crap."
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Feb 11, 2014 14:00:14 GMT -5
Hmmm, I think we might have broken Marcus Smart. Really hoping that guy didn't just call him "a piece of crap." I'm not going to argue that Smart doesn't need to get a handle on his temper, but even if he didn't use one of the "official" racial slurs, it's still insanely over the line for an older, adult, presumably fairly affluent, white man to call a young black kid "a piece of crap". I don't care if he is going to be a millionaire in 6 months, that's not ok in any context.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2014 15:44:58 GMT -5
Really hoping that guy didn't just call him "a piece of crap." I'm not going to argue that Smart doesn't need to get a handle on his temper, but even if he didn't use one of the "official" racial slurs, it's still insanely over the line for an older, adult, presumably fairly affluent, white man to call a young black kid "a piece of crap". I don't care if he is going to be a millionaire in 6 months, that's not ok in any context. I agree, but people are shitty and stuff like that happens at all age levels of sports. I understand the urge but you can't just go after every asshole that yells something. I'm more concerned about Smart's pre-incident decline in respect from officials and his apparent reluctance to run an offense.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Feb 11, 2014 15:52:41 GMT -5
I'm not going to argue that Smart doesn't need to get a handle on his temper, but even if he didn't use one of the "official" racial slurs, it's still insanely over the line for an older, adult, presumably fairly affluent, white man to call a young black kid "a piece of crap". I don't care if he is going to be a millionaire in 6 months, that's not ok in any context. I agree, but people are shitty and stuff like that happens at all age levels of sports. I understand the urge but you can't just go after every asshole that yells something. I'm more concerned about Smart's pre-incident decline in respect from officials and his apparent reluctance to run an offense. It really seems like Smart thought he was going to come back and get treated like Kobe by the officials, and when that didn't necessarily happen his entire game went downhill. Maybe it's just a case of expectations vs. reality for his sophomore year, but it does feel like he's regressed.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 15:08:58 GMT -5
Something occurred to me: If Wichita State wins out the season as they are expected to, the Shockers would almost certainly be a #1 seed despite poor competition in a lackluster Missouri Valley Conference. That means the conference would send a #1 seed to the tourney and zero other teams. Has that ever happened before?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2014 15:20:22 GMT -5
Since the College Basketball Thread has essentially become The Big 12 Thread:
Man, OSU's complete free fall continues. Seven straight losses. People may blame Smart's suspension (which certainly didn't help), but they had already dropped four games before losing Smart. Pretty incredible that Oklahoma State was pegged by many analysts to win the Big 12 and is now sitting in second-to-last place in the conference at 4-9, needing a LOT of work just to make the tourney.
It was a limping, perhaps unearned victory by KU last night, but thanks to Iowa State's takedown of Texas in Ames, my Jayhawks for the moment have a stranglehold on the conference standings. Subsequently, our rematch with the Longhorns in Lawrence this Saturday has lost some of the fanfare, but it's still a HUGE game that would give us great breathing room.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2014 15:54:39 GMT -5
Since the College Basketball Thread has essentially become The Big 12 Thread: Man, OSU's complete free fall continues. Seven straight losses. People may blame Smart's suspension (which certainly didn't help), but they had already dropped four games before losing Smart. Pretty incredible that Oklahoma State was pegged by many analysts to win the Big 12 and is now sitting in second-to-last place in the conference at 4-9, needing a LOT of work just to make the tourney. Ugh. I was in the third row for the Bedlam game. Not going to happen again until Ford is gone.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Feb 19, 2014 16:08:05 GMT -5
Since the College Basketball Thread has essentially become The Big 12 Thread: Man, OSU's complete free fall continues. Seven straight losses. People may blame Smart's suspension (which certainly didn't help), but they had already dropped four games before losing Smart. Pretty incredible that Oklahoma State was pegged by many analysts to win the Big 12 and is now sitting in second-to-last place in the conference at 4-9, needing a LOT of work just to make the tourney. It was a limping, perhaps unearned victory by KU last night, but thanks to Iowa State's takedown of Texas in Ames, my Jayhawks for the moment have a stranglehold on the conference standings. Subsequently, our rematch with the Longhorns in Lawrence this Saturday has lost some of the fanfare, but it's still a HUGE game that would give us great breathing room.As much as it pains me, I've given up hope on ISU catching up to KU so I'd love for you guys to win that game (and really win out I suppose). The conference is so deep that it probably doesn't make a huge difference, but I'd much rather be the 2-, or even 3-seed in KC, than have to play in that 4/5 game this year.
On that note, Big 12 tourney ought to be a nutty weekend this year. Whoever gets the 7-seed over TCU is probably the only gimme game in the tournament, given how Tech's come on in the last couple weeks. I miss making that trip with the pep band.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2014 16:09:27 GMT -5
Since the College Basketball Thread has essentially become The Big 12 Thread: Man, OSU's complete free fall continues. Seven straight losses. People may blame Smart's suspension (which certainly didn't help), but they had already dropped four games before losing Smart. Pretty incredible that Oklahoma State was pegged by many analysts to win the Big 12 and is now sitting in second-to-last place in the conference at 4-9, needing a LOT of work just to make the tourney. Ugh. I was in the third row for the Bedlam game. Not going to happen again until Ford is gone. It'll take a lot of work, but I'm still hoping OSU turns it around. I'd like to see seven B12 teams make the tourney. They may need all five remaining games, but I think four wins (including two of three vs KSU, KU or ISU) would punch their ticket. And practically speaking, I have to imagine the selection committee wants them in if at all possible - having a national star and PotY candidate playing in the NIT rather than NCAA would be a huge revenue loss.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Feb 19, 2014 17:42:13 GMT -5
Getting 70% of the conference into the dance would be insane. I know there are schools are losing a lot of guys after this year, but I think the Big 12 is officially back "up" after a couple down years. Even Texas Tech, if they got the chance, could make a solid NIT run I think.
I'm all for OSU getting back on track as long as they don't screw up Iowa State's senior day. Ejim, and to a lesser extent Kane, deserves to leave Hilton behind with a win.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2014 14:32:07 GMT -5
Florida's second consecutive tightrope act probably extinguishes Mississippi's hopes for a tourney bid (unless they make a second consecutive improbable SEC tournament run), which is a shame. I'm unabashedly a Marshall Henderson fan - he is so incredibly entertaining at playing the villain role and pushing buttons in a self-aware manner. I was so hoping for another Gator Chomp moment!
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Feb 24, 2014 9:41:21 GMT -5
One of my biggest disappointments this year is that Iowa State didn't get matched up with Ole Miss in the Big 12-SEC challenge, as was originally rumored. Marshall Henderson vs. Hilton Coliseum had the potential to be epic.
And dammit KU, I wanted you to win, but you didn't have to make Texas look like absolute shit just a few days after we got a big win over them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2014 0:14:51 GMT -5
Ugh, persistent back injuries to Embid is precisely what we DON'T need, although it's at least fortunate he should be be able to rest and return for the NCAA tourney. His defense was sorely missed on the last few possessions of that OSU loss - though let's be honest, we blew that one (and potentially a #1 seed) because of those 22 turnovers (of which probably about 18 were completely unforced).
Elsewhere in the conference, the most recent defeat not withstanding - hell, everyone loses at the Octagon - I still think Iowa State is an undervalued dark horse for a deep tournament run. On the other hand, I have some rooting interest in seeing Baylor take them down tomorrow night to move things a step closer to getting seven B12 entries into the field. . .
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Mar 4, 2014 8:52:22 GMT -5
Ugh, persistent back injuries to Embid is precisely what we DON'T need, although it's at least fortunate he should be be able to rest and return for the NCAA tourney. His defense was sorely missed on the last few possessions of that OSU loss - though let's be honest, we blew that one (and potentially a #1 seed) because of those 22 turnovers (of which probably about 18 were completely unforced). Elsewhere in the conference, the most recent defeat not withstanding - hell, everyone loses at the Octagon - I still think Iowa State is an undervalued dark horse for a deep tournament run. On the other hand, I have some rooting interest in seeing Baylor take them down tomorrow night to move things a step closer to getting seven B12 entries into the field. . . A lot of Iowa State fan's were all up in arms about the Kansas State loss and I just don't get it. I know that outside of Ejim and Kane a lot of guys didn't have very good games, but like you said, everyone loses in the octagon. I really don't see us losing these last two regular season games.
It does feel like the 'Clones should be able to make a nice tourney run this year, but I'm trying not to set myself up for too much disappointment.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Mar 4, 2014 13:57:16 GMT -5
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Mar 5, 2014 11:05:53 GMT -5
So...I'm starting to get worried that the Big 12 and Iowa State in particular is going to have a poor showing in the tourney. I'm crossing my fingers that conference opponents just have us figured out by this time of year and in post-season play ISU will be able to surprise people again, but we're really looking like shit down the stretch. When you basically have 3 guys carrying your team, you can't have 2 of them not bother to show up on the road.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2014 17:02:09 GMT -5
So...I'm starting to get worried that the Big 12 and Iowa State in particular is going to have a poor showing in the tourney. I'm crossing my fingers that conference opponents just have us figured out by this time of year and in post-season play ISU will be able to surprise people again, but we're really looking like shit down the stretch. When you basically have 3 guys carrying your team, you can't have 2 of them not bother to show up on the road. I'm weirdly of two minds right now: on the one hand, the upper echelon has faltered down the stretch in conference, which is worrying. On the other hand, this is a tough environment with everyone beating up on each other, and teams like OSU, Baylor and even W Virginia have had their tourney life flashing before their eyes whereas everyone else had little to play for. And each of those teams who need to win to keep hope alive, has! It's kind of a fascinating finish for the Big 12, and I can't wait to see how many teams make it in. Or maybe that's just what I'm telling myself after seeing KU trail West Virginia by 25 points during stretches of today's game. . . I'm driving down from KC to Austin today and surprisingly, I've stopped in for lunch in Oklahoma City and found this place packed full of Iowa State fans for the ISU-Oklahoma State game. Not what I was expecting.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Mar 10, 2014 12:47:45 GMT -5
Wallet Inspector How pissed are you about getting stuck with Okie State (probably) your first game in KC? I know we beat them on Saturday, but I really wouldn't want any piece of them right now. Also, do you think Self will hold back Embiid until the NCAA tourney? I can't really see KU moving off the 2 line now anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2014 12:51:34 GMT -5
Wallet Inspector How pissed are you about getting stuck with Okie State (probably) your first game in KC? I know we beat them on Saturday, but I really wouldn't want any piece of them right now. Also, do you think Self will hold back Embiid until the NCAA tourney? I can't really see KU moving off the 2 line now anyway. It is entirely possible OSU could lose out. I have no idea what to think about this team other than that I will really miss Markel Brown.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Mar 10, 2014 12:54:59 GMT -5
Wallet Inspector How pissed are you about getting stuck with Okie State (probably) your first game in KC? I know we beat them on Saturday, but I really wouldn't want any piece of them right now. Also, do you think Self will hold back Embiid until the NCAA tourney? I can't really see KU moving off the 2 line now anyway. It is entirely possible OSU could lose out. I have no idea what to think about this team other than that I will really miss Markel Brown. I don't see it happening. Tech has been salty, but you can tell OSU is on a mission right now. Hilton is a tough place to get wins and we needed 3Sus to perform a miracle to get it to overtime.
PS: It is too bad that Brown kind of gets ignored when talking about the Cowboys. He's a damn good player. Next year is going to be rough without him and Smart. Is the feeling that Nash at least will stick around?
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Mar 13, 2014 11:14:32 GMT -5
Less than half an hour until Iowa State tips off in the Big 12 tourney! Now that the weak link teams are eliminated, this should be a pretty entertaining tournament. KC hasn't been the kindest place to the Cyclones recently, but I'm hoping that we can pick up a couple games and solidify ourselves as a 3-seed for the NCAA's.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Mar 13, 2014 13:58:14 GMT -5
All praise to 3sus of Nazareth!!! Wallet Inspector good luck against Okie State. I'd much rather get another crack at you guys tomorrow than have to pull off another nail-biter against the Cowboys.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 15:55:12 GMT -5
Ugh, the University of Hawaii tried its best, but didn't make it past the first round of the conference tourney.
Is there going to be a TI Forum bracket game?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 16:53:46 GMT -5
All praise to 3sus of Nazareth!!! Wallet Inspector good luck against Okie State. I'd much rather get another crack at you guys tomorrow than have to pull off another nail-biter against the Cowboys. It should be a good one, and man, what a brutally punishing season it's been in the Big 12 for everyone in general. Yesterday's KU win was a deeply felt relief given the relatively tough stretch we've endured, but ugh, the news on Embid keeps getting worse. Having him out for (at least) the opening weekend of the NCAA tournament changes our outlook drastically. Our size advantages evaporates, and we become the kind of team where Andrew Wiggins can put up 41 points and we still lose.
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Post by MyNameIsNoneOfYourGoddamnBusin on Mar 14, 2014 20:25:46 GMT -5
Is there going to be a TI Forum bracket game? And does this one come with a billion dollar prize?
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