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Post by eldan on Dec 15, 2013 13:00:42 GMT -5
Just finished The Last of us. I don't think I've ever played a more harrowing game. I don't see myself replaying it anytime soon, but that was an outstanding game. It really pulled no punches at any point, which you rarely see in a game.
No spoilers, but are there alternate endings? There was one part near the very end that felt like it was giving me a choice on whether I wanted to do something very major or not, but I'm not really sure if that was the case or not.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 13:56:20 GMT -5
Just finished The Last of us. I don't think I've ever played a more harrowing game. I don't see myself replaying it anytime soon, but that was an outstanding game. It really pulled no punches at any point, which you rarely see in a game. No spoilers, but are there alternate endings? There was one part near the very end that felt like it was giving me a choice on whether I wanted to do something very major or not, but I'm not really sure if that was the case or not. Glad you survived the game (which is probably the most accurate description of how well made the game was and a huge compliment as far as I'm concerned). That was not the original ending but there is only one ending in the game, not giving you a personal choice in the matter and revealing just how broken Joel is. SPOILERS I'm guessing you are talking about the operating room. |
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Post by eldan on Dec 15, 2013 14:59:52 GMT -5
SPOILERS...
Yeah that's the one I was talking about. I made the decision pretty quickly to shoot the doctor, so I wasn't sure if it would give me the option to not do so if I wanted to. I think the ending works perfectly as is, though, and since this sort of game is so much about how you can't take back what you've done, I'm kind of happy there's not multiple endings.
END SPOILERS.
Also, I just tried to start Batman: Arkham Origins and I can tell it's a perfectly fine game, but after The Last of Us, it seems like a joke.
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Post by LazBro on Dec 15, 2013 15:01:21 GMT -5
Just finished The Last of us. I don't think I've ever played a more harrowing game. I don't see myself replaying it anytime soon, but that was an outstanding game. It really pulled no punches at any point, which you rarely see in a game. No spoilers, but are there alternate endings? There was one part near the very end that felt like it was giving me a choice on whether I wanted to do something very major or not, but I'm not really sure if that was the case or not. Just finished it this morning myself. What a terrific ending. Looks like @sloth jumped in with the answer about that one scene. I got handy with the steel right away, so I'd be curious to see what happens if you try to wait it out. I'm utterly blown away by the direction they took the ending. The "reveal" didn't surprise me, but everything about Joel's actions from that point on, especially his decision, is just devastating. When most games/movies would go BIG at that point, The Last of Us went small and personal. And that's all beside the point that surprised me most about The Last of Us: it's a really good game. The stealth is rewarding and never too plodding, the action is intense, the controls weighty but not fussy. The systems are fair. This is up there for GotY for me. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 15:24:20 GMT -5
SPOILERS... Yeah that's the one I was talking about. I made the decision pretty quickly to shoot the doctor, so I wasn't sure if it would give me the option to not do so if I wanted to. I think the ending works perfectly as is, though, and since this sort of game is so much about how you can't take back what you've done, I'm kind of happy there's not multiple endings. END SPOILERS. Also, I just tried to start Batman: Arkham Origins and I can tell it's a perfectly fine game, but after The Last of Us, it seems like a joke. SPOILERS The Last of Us Alternate Endings
They state that originally the operating room was a cutscene, with you watching Joel's actions, but changed it to have you carrying out the action yourself and really letting it sink in how far you've (Joel and you) come. Also, the surgeon is the only person that has to die in the OR and will threaten you with a scalpel but it seems like everyone kills the nurses too (though you don't have to). End SPOILERS Agreed about playing games after. I started playing NiNoKuni (and now Oblivion) afterwards and had a really hard time accepting the juvenile JRPG storytelling. TLOU has ruined me a bit for what I now expect out of a video game, unfortunately.
Snape, I really couldn't believe that a AAA title would be released with such an unconventional ending or rather that Naughty Dog, the company, would be willing to release a very expensive AAA game so far removed from traditional fare and expectations. Edit: I should add that it is difficult (and probably not fair) to compare TLOU to NiNoKuni or Oblivion since that are such drastically different types of games but nonetheless, they are the games I played afterwards. TLOU reminds me of being in a war zone where you feel wired (on edge and not in a bad way) everyday, though you stop actively noticing it after awhile until you come home and everything seems so boring and low stakes for the first few months. |
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Post by eldan on Dec 15, 2013 18:09:03 GMT -5
MORE LAST OF US SPOILERS.....
I actually didn't kill the nurses, because it didn't seem like Joel would murder someone unless they were specifically in his way and were an immediate danger to him or Ellie. Then later I found out he went back and shot that black girl in the face, so I guess I didn't really know him as well as I thought I did.
END OF LAST OF US SPOILERS.
In terms of trying to play other games, Last of Us was doing things that I wasn't even aware were awesome, just stuff like the level design and that kind of thing, even though it's clearly directing you to one specific path, it makes you at least feel like you're the one directing the action. This Batman game plops me into a hallway with a giant door at the end of it and tells me to figure out how to get out of the hallway. Quite a big step down.
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Dec 18, 2013 14:08:37 GMT -5
So anyone play the first episode of season two of Telltale's Walking Dead? I really liked it, it was hair-raisingly tense. Anyway my choices were: I tried to save Christa, killed the dog, gave the guy some water, said I'd be Sarah's friend and saved Pete. |
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Post by mratfink on Dec 18, 2013 14:34:09 GMT -5
So anyone play the first episode of season two of Telltale's Walking Dead? I really liked it, it was hair-raisingly tense. Anyway my choices were: I tried to save Christa, killed the dog, gave the guy some water, said I'd be Sarah's friend and saved Pete. i did the same first four but changed the last one. i immediately regretted my final decision of course. also i dont know how to spoiler tag stuff so i'll just be vague as shit here, but that entire dog sequence distressed me way more than anything else that has happened in the game. |
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Dec 18, 2013 14:47:11 GMT -5
mratfink Just type [spoiler]like so.[/spoiler]Also yeah Even dogs betray you. That's the ruthlessness of WD in a nutshell.
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Post by mratfink on Dec 18, 2013 15:02:50 GMT -5
mratfink Just type [spoiler]like so.[/spoiler]Also yeah Even dogs betray you. That's the ruthlessness of WD in a nutshell. i was pretty bummed about some of the initial plot machinations, with stuff like Omid dying and Christa being lost so soon, but as i got to the end of the chapter it became obvious how necessary it was to separate Clem from anyone else. i like how you can use people underestimations of a child against them. like when i totally blackmailed the nice guy (Alvin?) anyway despite being initially depressed by some of the stuff happening, once you get to the house the focus of season 2 really snaps into place and Clem as main character begins to offer lots of interesting possibilities [/ spoiler] |
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Dec 18, 2013 15:08:28 GMT -5
mratfinkWalking Dead Season 2: You can blackmail Alvin? He's the husband of the pregnant woman. I sort of avoided that question altogether, I've been playing Clem as very forthright and decent.
And I loved where their placed Omid's death: Right before the title sequence. We get a horrible mistake leading to someone's death followed by instant regret and more death... and he died from your gun. That is the entire TWD series summed up in a brief, emotionally brutal vignette.
Christa's seperation was swift, but I agree it's necessary. This episode is basically about Clementine being on her own or Clementine deciding how much she can trust someone or something, and it gets all of its tension from that. Christa is a known property and of course someone we reflexively trust, but now?
The Telltale Game makes me more frightened of a dog than the TV series managed with a tank.
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Post by mratfink on Dec 18, 2013 15:24:38 GMT -5
mratfinkWalking Dead Season 2: You can blackmail Alvin? He's the husband of the pregnant woman. I sort of avoided that question altogether, I've been playing Clem as very forthright and decent.
And I loved where their placed Omid's death: Right before the title sequence. We get a horrible mistake leading to someone's death followed by instant regret and more death... and he died from your gun. That is the entire TWD series summed up in a brief, emotionally brutal vignette.
Christa's seperation was swift, but I agree it's necessary. This episode is basically about Clementine being on her own or Clementine deciding how much she can trust someone or something, and it gets all of its tension from that. Christa is a known property and of course someone we reflexively trust, but now?
The Telltale Game makes me more frightened of a dog than the TV series managed with a tank. more Walking Dead Season 2 spoilers ahoy: indeed you can. you can basically be like look your wife wont be happy if she finds out you talked to me so get me what i want or i'll tell her. i played Lee super forthright and decent, but i think my Clem is going to have a little of that childhood deviousness where if an adult underestimates you watch out.
the Christa separation was swift and necessary but it also left me with way mroe questions than answers. what happened with her pregnancy? she was too late to really miscarry so did clem help deliver the baby? was the baby still born or did it die young without proper nutrition? is it actually alive somewhere (doubtful)? but yeah losing omid also loses the more trustworthy (but less capable) of the two and is a very interesting choice.
i think my favorite aspect of the whole dog sequence was how no one believed that a dog bit her. like the reactions ranged from "a dog, really?" to "i can't remember the last time i saw a dog..." [/ spoiler] |
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Dec 18, 2013 15:26:41 GMT -5
mratfink (moar Walking Dead S2 spoilers) I did dislike that the baby was never mentioned. But on the other hand we see Clementine and Christa alone sixteen months later, so I think we get the gist of what happened... it's just after the last game making a huge deal that CHRISTA IS PREGNANT it feels like an anticlimax.
And yeah the moment the dog bit me I thought oh fuck there is no way people are gonna believe this was a dog.
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Post by mratfink on Dec 18, 2013 15:33:30 GMT -5
mratfink (moar Walking Dead S2 spoilers) I did dislike that the baby was never mentioned. But on the other hand we see Clementine and Christa alone sixteen months later, so I think we get the gist of what happened... it's just after the last game making a huge deal that CHRISTA IS PREGNANT it feels like an anticlimax.
And yeah the moment the dog bit me I thought oh fuck there is no way people are gonna believe this was a dog. that is actually why the entire beginning with omid dying and christa being lost bothered me. it takes some of the few remaining built up characterizations and plots from season 1 and discards them too quickly. but the game obviously want to forge new territory with clem and it has to have her on her own to do that. to make a nerdy comparison: season 1 is game of thrones, season 2 is clash of kings. Ned/Lee's death is a necessary event for the heroes and really more of a prelude than anything else. [/ spoiler] |
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Post by beema on Dec 19, 2013 0:19:42 GMT -5
maybe you guys should just have a TWD discussion in PM's... maybe that?
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Post by dＬᵒ on Dec 19, 2013 5:02:37 GMT -5
I find it interesting.
Actually with TWD I read the comics until Tony More (the first artist) left, and then all of my other enjoyment of the franchise has involved other people complaining or over analyzing it.
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Post by fieldafar on Dec 19, 2013 5:12:34 GMT -5
Thanks thread for reminding me TWD S2 is out.
*runs off to xbox.com to buy season pass*
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Post by The Larch on Dec 19, 2013 5:21:48 GMT -5
I have now been playing Ys: The Oath in Felghana on PSP. I have never played an Ys game before, and I'm finding it surprisingly challenging; every boss so far has taken me many retries to defeat (on normal difficulty, and I refuse to use the "lower difficulty" option when I die).
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Post by Inamine on Dec 19, 2013 10:01:29 GMT -5
So I finished Dragon Age and Final Fantasy V Advance recently and am having trouble deciding what I want to play next. I'm still in an RPG mood, what with the winter and all. I'm trying to decide between Breath of Fire, Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride, The Last Story, or Dragon Age II. Anyone want to pipe up with thoughts on any of these? Breath of Fire series is good, old school JRPG. I'm a fan. The Last Story has fun gameplay, overall it's enjoyable but kind of feels ephemeral. Dragon Age II is an odd one. I liked it a lot, but it had major, major problems. Reuse of assets, disjointed story, pushed the gameplay too far into action at the expense of strategy. It feels rushed and like an awkward transitional piece. But its dialogue wheel is pretty good, interactions with party members is pretty good, feels less min/max gaming like and more organic in regards to those. |
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Post by DisgracedFormerFootModel on Dec 19, 2013 12:54:24 GMT -5
So I've set aside my first playthrough of Final Fantasy VI* to spend some time playing around with some other games (*cough,cough*emulatorsonmywii*cough,cough*) I've missed out on. I'm currently playing Symphony of the Night and I gotta say, this is something I'm definitely kicking myself for not playing sooner.
*I could have finished it by now storyline-wise but I want to make it as close to 100% as possible.
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Post by ComradeQuestions on Dec 19, 2013 13:02:09 GMT -5
So I finished Dragon Age and Final Fantasy V Advance recently and am having trouble deciding what I want to play next. I'm still in an RPG mood, what with the winter and all. I'm trying to decide between Breath of Fire, Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride, The Last Story, or Dragon Age II. Anyone want to pipe up with thoughts on any of these? How many hours you put into Dragon Age (Origins, I presume), and how much of a completionist are you? I keep having the itch to play something like that, and Skyrim is just too freaking big for me. |
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Post by Inamine on Dec 19, 2013 13:26:34 GMT -5
How many hours you put into Dragon Age (Origins, I presume), and how much of a completionist are you? I keep having the itch to play something like that, and Skyrim is just too freaking big for me. Dragon Age: Origins is one of my favorite games out there. DA:O isn't nearly as big as Skyrim. There's side quests and such, but there isn't much in the way of "random cave to explore and kill things in" or "fill my house with cheese wheels". But it's a good sized RPG with a lot of good shit in it. |
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Post by Inamine on Dec 19, 2013 13:30:21 GMT -5
store.steampowered.com/IT IS BEGUN Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance, Bioshock Infinite, and Dishonored are all great and I recommend them. I'm considering getting Monaco, I've heard lots of good things about it.
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Post by LazBro on Dec 19, 2013 14:00:47 GMT -5
store.steampowered.com/IT IS BEGUN Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance, Bioshock Infinite, and Dishonored are all great and I recommend them. I'm considering getting Monaco, I've heard lots of good things about it. At $2.99, I don't think it's even worth "considering." Snatch that puppy up. Love, love, love me some Steam sale. I'd prefer they The Stanley Parable down to $5.99 or lower before I buy, but I might just have to bite the bullet on it. I definitely want to play it. |
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Post by Trurl on Dec 19, 2013 14:17:53 GMT -5
store.steampowered.com/IT IS BEGUN Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance, Bioshock Infinite, and Dishonored are all great and I recommend them. I'm considering getting Monaco, I've heard lots of good things about it. Christ, NO! I *can't* get any more games! |
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Post by ComradeQuestions on Dec 19, 2013 15:15:52 GMT -5
store.steampowered.com/IT IS BEGUN Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance, Bioshock Infinite, and Dishonored are all great and I recommend them. I'm considering getting Monaco, I've heard lots of good things about it. Whyyy is the DLC for Bioshock Infinite more expensive than the game itself argle bargle... |
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Post by LazBro on Dec 20, 2013 11:08:29 GMT -5
store.steampowered.com/IT IS BEGUN Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance, Bioshock Infinite, and Dishonored are all great and I recommend them. I'm considering getting Monaco, I've heard lots of good things about it. Whyyy is the DLC for Bioshock Infinite more expensive than the game itself argle bargle... Holding out hope the Bioshock Infinite season pass gets a discount sometime during the winter sale. Not likely, I know, but it'd be great. Can't believe I still haven't played Burial at Sea. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2013 11:23:04 GMT -5
So I've set aside my first playthrough of Final Fantasy VI* to spend some time playing around with some other games (*cough,cough*emulatorsonmywii*cough,cough*) I've missed out on. I'm currently playing Symphony of the Night and I gotta say, this is something I'm definitely kicking myself for not playing sooner. *I could have finished it by now storyline-wise but I want to make it as close to 100% as possible.  |
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Post by Inamine on Dec 20, 2013 11:27:40 GMT -5
I'M NOT CRYING YOU GUYS
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Post by LazBro on Dec 20, 2013 13:27:05 GMT -5
@pugsmalone - All the likes! Inamine - That game is so FRUSTRATING! (It's fun, tho.) |
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