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Post by rimjobflashmob on Jun 16, 2016 11:15:44 GMT -5
It looks like they pulled the article. At least, I get dead air when I hit the link. jinx I owe you a coke I'm more of a Mr. Pibb guy, but we can make it work. |
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Post by Bedroom Pastrami on Jun 16, 2016 12:13:29 GMT -5
Yeah that hatesong was............really really bad.
Like, how did they see that as fine to publish?
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on Jun 16, 2016 13:18:01 GMT -5
On the one hand I kind of wish I’d seen the insanity, but on the other hand I’m feeling like I made a good choice to not check out the AVC so often anymore.
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Post by Invisible Goat on Jun 16, 2016 13:20:28 GMT -5
On the one hand I kind of wish I’d seen the insanity, but on the other hand I’m feeling like I made a good choice to not check out the AVC so often anymore. . Credit to 🐍 cahusserole 🐍. Kind of funny how they've gone all-in on evaluating art on the basis of the social values they espouse, and then go ahead and publish this vile shit. |
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Jun 16, 2016 13:51:19 GMT -5
The guy is whining on Twitter about it being taken down and using a ton of sexism against any woman who calls him out. What a miserable excuse for a human being.
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Post by The Stuffingtacular She-Hulk on Jun 16, 2016 13:53:56 GMT -5
On the one hand I kind of wish I’d seen the insanity, but on the other hand I’m feeling like I made a good choice to not check out the AVC so often anymore. . Credit to 🐍 cahusserole 🐍 . Kind of funny how they've gone all-in on evaluating art on the basis of the social values they espouse, and then go ahead and publish this vile shit. ................hooooooooooooly shit. I literally cringed reading this just now. What a fucking asshole this Big Jay guy is. |
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Post by The Stuffingtacular She-Hulk on Jun 16, 2016 14:14:48 GMT -5
Do you guys think this could finally be the silver bullet that kills Hatesong? My fingers are crossed, honestly--I used to like it but ever since it changed to exclusively "here's some jerk we scraped up off a podcast" instead of "musicians & comedians you've actually heard of" it's just tanked.I joked recently that the commentariat could do a better job on this feature than the people they've been picking recently, but now I'm honestly and legitimately convinced of that. |
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Post by The Stuffingtacular She-Hulk on Jun 16, 2016 14:35:10 GMT -5
I joked recently that the commentariat could do a better job on this feature than the people they've been picking recently, but now I'm honestly and legitimately convinced of that. I would legit love to see that happen! What song would you pick? Either Sheryl Crow and Kid Rock's "Picture" or Tone Loc's "Funky Cold Medina". Neither of them has been particularly overplayed; I hate them on their own merits. Fortunately, they're only ever played on the local Jack FM station, so it's easy to avoid them as long as I can change the station quickly enough. They incite white-hot rage in me both for very different reasons. |
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Post by ayatollahcm on Jun 17, 2016 1:53:04 GMT -5
Big Jay Oakerson looks like a rejected member of ICP. They wouldn't even give him the face paint!
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Post by Paleu on Jun 17, 2016 3:41:16 GMT -5
On the one hand I kind of wish I’d seen the insanity, but on the other hand I’m feeling like I made a good choice to not check out the AVC so often anymore. . Credit to 🐍 cahusserole 🐍 . Kind of funny how they've gone all-in on evaluating art on the basis of the social values they espouse, and then go ahead and publish this vile shit. Holy shit that was terrible. I feel like I don't see racism this lazy that often anymore, but I especially didn't expect it from what used to be my favorite website. |
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Post by haysoos on Jun 17, 2016 7:45:42 GMT -5
I don't recall seeing any other 'interview' article where the interviewer has 90% of the lines.
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Post by Ron Howard Voice on Jun 17, 2016 9:38:02 GMT -5
Starwipe is over; today's its last day.
Thank goodness. That was a joke I never got.
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Post by The Stuffingtacular She-Hulk on Jun 17, 2016 9:39:49 GMT -5
Starwipe is over; today's its last day. Thank goodness. That was a joke I never got. Does this mean we can begin tentative preparations for The Return of O'Neal? God, I hope so. |
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Post by Judkins Moaner on Jun 17, 2016 10:07:13 GMT -5
Starwipe is over; today's its last day. Thank goodness. That was a joke I never got. I actually read through a couple of articles today for the first time ever just to get a sense of the apparent meltdown. Turns out all I had to do was glance at the headlines! And I'm not sure whether I want to check out that salvaged Hatesong or not. I've stopped reading for the most part, partly because I'd prefer to think of Marah Eakin as the writer of pieces like that stirring defense of PBS or articles on Nickelodeon after my time that wind up engaging and enjoyable, rather than the person who might as well be interviewing herself about low-hanging musical fruit. And for the reasons everyone else cited. |
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Post by Bedroom Pastrami on Jun 17, 2016 10:08:44 GMT -5
Starwipe is over; today's its last day. Thank goodness. That was a joke I never got. Does this mean we can begin tentative preparations for The Return of O'Neal? God, I hope so. Looks to be the case from his twitter feed. But yeah starwipe was...not very good. |
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Post by pairesta on Jun 17, 2016 10:54:38 GMT -5
There hasn't been a Will Harris random roles in two months. Has there been any updates on this? I see Will in comments alot, but yeah, it's now been three months and there've been a few RRs where he wasn't involved. |
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Post by pairesta on Jun 17, 2016 11:02:19 GMT -5
Starwipe is over; today's its last day. Thank goodness. That was a joke I never got. Wow they're really taking a torch to the place. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2016 11:06:13 GMT -5
There hasn't been a Will Harris random roles in two months. Has there been any updates on this? I see Will in comments alot, but yeah, it's now been three months and there've been a few RRs where he wasn't involved. I can't remember where, but Harris said in the comments that he's had an unusual amount of interview cancellations lately. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on Jun 17, 2016 11:11:58 GMT -5
I have no idea what’s going on with the Starwipe flameout—whether it’s just O’Neal just going mad or O’Neal finally airing out his frustration because the site’s being shut down due to insufficient traffic—but it is glorious.
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Post by HipsterDBag on Jun 17, 2016 11:14:49 GMT -5
... Seal was born in London.
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Post by Meth Lab Shenanigans on Jun 17, 2016 14:43:40 GMT -5
On the one hand I kind of wish I’d seen the insanity, but on the other hand I’m feeling like I made a good choice to not check out the AVC so often anymore. . Credit to 🐍 cahusserole 🐍 . Kind of funny how they've gone all-in on evaluating art on the basis of the social values they espouse, and then go ahead and publish this vile shit. Do you guys think this could finally be the silver bullet that kills Hatesong? My fingers are crossed, honestly--I used to like it but ever since it changed to exclusively "here's some jerk we scraped up off a podcast" instead of "musicians & comedians you've actually heard of" it's just tanked.I joked recently that the commentariat could do a better job on this feature than the people they've been picking recently, but now I'm honestly and legitimately convinced of that. I would absolutely love it if somehow they decided to switch to picking popular AVC users instead. Might actually save the feature. Does this mean we can begin tentative preparations for The Return of O'Neal? God, I hope so. Looks to be the case from his twitter feed. But yeah starwipe was...not very good. I'll miss it. It was certainly way smarter about celebrity culture than the AVC has been since the Great Exodus. Hopefully Sean brings that bite back to the Old Country. Holy shit that was terrible. I feel like I don't see racism this lazy that often anymore, but I especially didn't expect it from what used to be my favorite website. I'm just impressed that they finally put out a Hatesong more vile and nasty than Jonah Ray's. Wasn't sure it could be done! |
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Post by Powerthirteen on Jun 17, 2016 14:53:54 GMT -5
I have no idea what’s going on with the Starwipe flameout—whether it’s just O’Neal just going mad or O’Neal finally airing out his frustration because the site’s being shut down due to insufficient traffic—but it is glorious. Plus he posted a nice slideshow of Anna Kendrick pictures, that was very enjoyable. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2016 16:05:44 GMT -5
Starwipe is over; today's its last day. Thank goodness. That was a joke I never got. That's a bummer for Sean O'Neal, as he obviously put a lot of himself into building Starwipe and took pride in the direction of the site; selfishly though, I'm excited to see his byline return to the AVC. While it had its moments I was never a regular reader of Starwipe: it seemed to be an effective satire of a certain type of entertainment reporting, but the target it was satirizing was so obnoxious I rarely had the stomach to consume a send-up of it. It did seem to hit a stride over the last week as the place was torched though, and one of the last pieces - a terrific bit on Kim Kardashian appropriately titled Fuck This - is an all-time classic IMO, although it seems to have received a fair amount of blowback from some culture critics who objected to the idea that KK is not necessarily the greatest ideal of empowerment. |
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Post by Meth Lab Shenanigans on Jun 17, 2016 19:16:21 GMT -5
Starwipe is over; today's its last day. Thank goodness. That was a joke I never got. That's a bummer for Sean O'Neal, as he obviously put a lot of himself into building Starwipe and took pride in the direction of the site; selfishly though, I'm excited to see his byline return to the AVC. While it had its moments I was never a regular reader of Starwipe: it seemed to be an effective satire of a certain type of entertainment reporting, but the target it was satirizing was so obnoxious I rarely had the stomach to consume a send-up of it. It did seem to hit a stride over the last week as the place was torched though, and one of the last pieces - a terrific bit on Kim Kardashian appropriately titled Fuck This - is an all-time classic IMO, although it seems to have received a fair amount of blowback from some culture critics who objected to the idea that KK is not necessarily the greatest ideal of empowerment. I disagreed with some parts of it, but I really loved this bit: Being super into yourself is not empowering, goddamnit; it’s obnoxious. Vanity is one of the cardinal sins for a reason, because it makes the planet impossible to live in when every single person believes they’re the only ones on it.I feel like the Gawker/Buzzfeed/whatever crowd have pushed this idea that being a terrible, self-absorbed person is ~~~empowering~~~ because of ~~~self-love~~~ and it's kind of nice to see somebody tear into that bullshit. |
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Jun 17, 2016 22:05:01 GMT -5
That's a bummer for Sean O'Neal, as he obviously put a lot of himself into building Starwipe and took pride in the direction of the site; selfishly though, I'm excited to see his byline return to the AVC. While it had its moments I was never a regular reader of Starwipe: it seemed to be an effective satire of a certain type of entertainment reporting, but the target it was satirizing was so obnoxious I rarely had the stomach to consume a send-up of it. It did seem to hit a stride over the last week as the place was torched though, and one of the last pieces - a terrific bit on Kim Kardashian appropriately titled Fuck This - is an all-time classic IMO, although it seems to have received a fair amount of blowback from some culture critics who objected to the idea that KK is not necessarily the greatest ideal of empowerment. I disagreed with some parts of it, but I really loved this bit: Being super into yourself is not empowering, goddamnit; it’s obnoxious. Vanity is one of the cardinal sins for a reason, because it makes the planet impossible to live in when every single person believes they’re the only ones on it.I feel like the Gawker/Buzzfeed/whatever crowd have pushed this idea that being a terrible, self-absorbed person is ~~~empowering~~~ because of ~~~self-love~~~ and it's kind of nice to see somebody tear into that bullshit. Agreed. You're supposed to love yourself, not worship yourself. |
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Post by Paleu on Jun 18, 2016 4:11:02 GMT -5
I disagreed with some parts of it, but I really loved this bit: Being super into yourself is not empowering, goddamnit; it’s obnoxious. Vanity is one of the cardinal sins for a reason, because it makes the planet impossible to live in when every single person believes they’re the only ones on it.I feel like the Gawker/Buzzfeed/whatever crowd have pushed this idea that being a terrible, self-absorbed person is ~~~empowering~~~ because of ~~~self-love~~~ and it's kind of nice to see somebody tear into that bullshit. Agreed. You're supposed to love yourself, not worship yourself. Exactly! Worshipping is what your twitter followers are supposed to do. |
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Post by Pops Freshenmeyer on Jun 18, 2016 22:06:50 GMT -5
Starwipe is over; today's its last day. Thank goodness. That was a joke I never got. That's a bummer for Sean O'Neal, as he obviously put a lot of himself into building Starwipe and took pride in the direction of the site; selfishly though, I'm excited to see his byline return to the AVC. While it had its moments I was never a regular reader of Starwipe: it seemed to be an effective satire of a certain type of entertainment reporting, but the target it was satirizing was so obnoxious I rarely had the stomach to consume a send-up of it. It did seem to hit a stride over the last week as the place was torched though, and one of the last pieces - a terrific bit on Kim Kardashian appropriately titled Fuck This - is an all-time classic IMO, although it seems to have received a fair amount of blowback from some culture critics who objected to the idea that KK is not necessarily the greatest ideal of empowerment. When Sean announced StarWipe's end over Twitter, he phrased it as 'the last day of StarWipe,' which made me think it was a terminal project to begin with, possibly with the expectation that if it can become as stupidly successful as ClickHole they would let it live to see another year. Pretty lofty goal for something that had a lot of overlap between The Onion, the A.V. Club, Clickhole, and general entertainment sites in general. |
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Post by Pops Freshenmeyer on Jun 18, 2016 22:08:36 GMT -5
That's a bummer for Sean O'Neal, as he obviously put a lot of himself into building Starwipe and took pride in the direction of the site; selfishly though, I'm excited to see his byline return to the AVC. While it had its moments I was never a regular reader of Starwipe: it seemed to be an effective satire of a certain type of entertainment reporting, but the target it was satirizing was so obnoxious I rarely had the stomach to consume a send-up of it. It did seem to hit a stride over the last week as the place was torched though, and one of the last pieces - a terrific bit on Kim Kardashian appropriately titled Fuck This - is an all-time classic IMO, although it seems to have received a fair amount of blowback from some culture critics who objected to the idea that KK is not necessarily the greatest ideal of empowerment. I disagreed with some parts of it, but I really loved this bit: Being super into yourself is not empowering, goddamnit; it’s obnoxious. Vanity is one of the cardinal sins for a reason, because it makes the planet impossible to live in when every single person believes they’re the only ones on it.I feel like the Gawker/Buzzfeed/whatever crowd have pushed this idea that being a terrible, self-absorbed person is ~~~empowering~~~ because of ~~~self-love~~~ and it's kind of nice to see somebody tear into that bullshit. Well, that's all fine and good for you, but I believe in a philosophy of Competitive Solipsism. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on Jun 19, 2016 10:34:32 GMT -5
I definitely feel like Starwipe and (especially) Clickhole took TOC as fodder for their mockery. Starwipe always had a difficult mission in that it was aimed at the “You know you’re wasting your time reading celebrity news but you’re here reading it anyway” demo—I remember writing shortly after it premiered that its main target were the people reading it. That’s definitely true, but it became a lot better and—channeling Wallet Inspector—smarter at doing that (and implicating everybody) as it went on and I ended up a more reliable click for the Clickhole links on the AVC than the AVC articles after a point. |
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Post by Powerthirteen on Jun 20, 2016 15:12:25 GMT -5
Looks like the AVC has fixed its biggest blunder and actually implemented a working search function.
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