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Post by Celebith on Aug 27, 2017 22:26:02 GMT -5
Making Lando gay seems unsupported by any shred of evidence in either of his previous appearances. Lando Calrisian - the women want to be with him, the men do too.
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Post by Mr. Greene's October Surprise on Aug 28, 2017 1:18:39 GMT -5
I think Martin Scorsese is a bad influence on cinema. He doesn't care much for people - that whole "I'm not an animal" thing in Raging Bull is actually ironic. He has good taste in music, but it's as much a crutch for him as it was for Lawrence Kasdan on The Big Chill. And his taste in old movies is suspect - he's OK with wooden performances as long as the composition is grand.
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Post by Nudeviking on Aug 28, 2017 1:29:55 GMT -5
Making Lando gay seems unsupported by any shred of evidence in either of his previous appearances. Lando Calrisian - the women want to be with him, the men do too. Is there any evidence that the one woman that existed in the original trilogy wanted to be with him? I know he wanted to get with Leia, but she was pretty "Meh," about him when they first met. C3-PO's all like, "He seems friendly," and Leia just rolls her eyes and is like, "Yeah, real friendly..."
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Post by dwarfoscar on Aug 28, 2017 11:14:22 GMT -5
Yesterday, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang was on. Hadn't seen it in 10 years and must sadly say my opinion from back then" OMG Shane Black you're the Greatest please get well and make ALL the movies!" changed to "Oh Lordy, these characters and their 'witty banter' are annoying as fuck." Did not age well... and if we're being honest The Nice Guys was more or less the same movie I watched it for the first time recently, and I have to say I disagree. Still funny as hell. As for my unpopular opinions (ooh, boy...) : - Crash and Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland are OK movies - Borat is one of the worst movies I've seen in my life - The only Kubrick movie I really like is Paths of Glory, because it might be the only one of his with a sympathetic character. And that's barely scratching the surface
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Post by ganews on Aug 29, 2017 7:35:42 GMT -5
Did not age well... and if we're being honest The Nice Guys was more or less the same movie I watched it for the first time recently, and I have to say I disagree. Still funny as hell. As for my unpopular opinions (ooh, boy...) : - Crash and Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland are OK movies - Borat is one of the worst movies I've seen in my life - The only Kubrick movie I really like is Paths of Glory, because it might be the only one of his with a sympathetic character. And that's barely scratching the surface Slow your roll, you gotta let those dribble out. As a Tim Burton apologist ("Miss Peregrine" notwithstanding) I would have liked the Alice in Wonderland.
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Post by ganews on Aug 29, 2017 7:39:02 GMT -5
"2001: A Space Odyssey" is a Great Movie and an artistic achievement, but "2010: The We Make Contact" is damn good and much more re-watchable.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Aug 29, 2017 8:07:17 GMT -5
"2001: A Space Odyssey" is a Great Movie and an artistic achievement, but "2010: The We Make Contact" is damn good and much more re-watchable. The biggest problem that 2010 has is that it's a sequel to a widely-acknowledged masterpiece. Also, I nominate "The We Make Contact" as the new "When You Someone Eat It."
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on Aug 29, 2017 12:00:46 GMT -5
I was got a stern talking-to in either the AVC or Dissolve comments for referring to 2010 as 2010: The Year We Make Contact. Evidently โThe Year We Make Contactโ is only a tagline, not part of the actual title. It is the sort of memory that makes you simultaneously miss the old comments and glad theyโre gone.
That said itโs a great tagline and the best of possible titles for the film, followed by just plain 2010 and the bookโs 2010: Odyssey Two, which is fairly lame (though I remember the book being one of Clarkeโs best novels).
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Post by Meth Lab Shenanigans on Aug 29, 2017 13:16:59 GMT -5
I haven't been able to get into any Coen bros work other than The Big Lebowski, mostly because of the clear contempt they have for their own characters. Watching the latest Twin Peaks, it occurred to me that in a Coen film Bushnell Mullins' likability and affection for Dougie would probably have gotten him shot to death in a way that would be intended as funny but instead end up as just kind of upsetting. I look forward to coming around on them in a few years and being embarrassed by this hot take. Plenty of people whose taste usually aligns with mine love them, so I'm totally open to the idea that maybe I just don't get it yet.
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Post by chalkdevil's night ๐ on Aug 29, 2017 15:31:24 GMT -5
I watched it for the first time recently, and I have to say I disagree. Still funny as hell. As for my unpopular opinions (ooh, boy...) : - Crash and Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland are OK movies - Borat is one of the worst movies I've seen in my life - The only Kubrick movie I really like is Paths of Glory, because it might be the only one of his with a sympathetic character. And that's barely scratching the surface Slow your roll, you gotta let those dribble out. As a Tim Burton apologist ("Miss Peregrine" notwithstanding) I would have liked the Alice in Wonderland. I was just talking about Tim Burton with my wife and said I don't think I'd liked one of his movies for 20 years. I had to go to IMDB to confirm. Yep, the last movie of his that I actively enjoyed was Mars Attacks from 1996. I know a lot of people liked Big Fish, but at the time when it came out I had no patience for that nonsense. Maybe it would have helped if I had more unresolved issues with my dad. I guess Sweeny Todd was alright, but I mostly just remember Johnny Depp's terrible singing voice.
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Post by Ron Howard Voice on Aug 29, 2017 16:07:22 GMT -5
And his taste in old movies is suspect - he's OK with wooden performances as long as the composition is grand. This better not be about Life and Death of Colonel Blimp because everything about that movie is perfect, darn it!
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Post by Ron Howard Voice on Aug 29, 2017 16:11:41 GMT -5
Did not age well... and if we're being honest The Nice Guys was more or less the same movie - Borat is one of the worst movies I've seen in my life Borat is definitely the worst moviegoing experience I've had in my life, because I saw it with my parents and they were very, very off-put.
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Post by dwarfoscar on Aug 29, 2017 17:36:11 GMT -5
I was just talking about Tim Burton with my wife and said I don't think I'd liked one of his movies for 20 years. I had to go to IMDB to confirm. Burton is past his prime, but there's been some good stuff in the last 20 years, give or take Big Fish : Frankenweenie and Big Eyes come to mind. I really like Big Eyes.
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on Aug 29, 2017 18:42:15 GMT -5
- Borat is one of the worst movies I've seen in my life Borat is definitely the worst moviegoing experience I've had in my life, because I saw it with my parents and they were very, very off-put. At least it wasnโt Brรผno, which managed to be seriously off-putting even to college-aged me.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Aug 29, 2017 19:24:46 GMT -5
I watched it for the first time recently, and I have to say I disagree. Still funny as hell. As for my unpopular opinions (ooh, boy...) : - Crash and Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland are OK movies - Borat is one of the worst movies I've seen in my life - The only Kubrick movie I really like is Paths of Glory, because it might be the only one of his with a sympathetic character. And that's barely scratching the surface Slow your roll, you gotta let those dribble out. As a Tim Burton apologist ("Miss Peregrine" notwithstanding) I would have liked the Alice in Wonderland. Is there any film in the past decade with a more nauseating moral than Burton's Alice in Wonderland, though? "After you meet Johnathan Depp in his most uninteresting "quirky" performance yet, become an imperialist white supremacist piece of shit."
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Post by ganews on Aug 29, 2017 20:40:10 GMT -5
Slow your roll, you gotta let those dribble out. As a Tim Burton apologist ("Miss Peregrine" notwithstanding) I would have liked the Alice in Wonderland. Is there any film in the past decade with a more nauseating moral than Burton's Alice in Wonderland, though? "After you meet Johnathan Depp in his most uninteresting "quirky" performance yet, become an imperialist white supremacist piece of shit." Well, what else ya gonna do after you stage a successful revolution against a monarchy? Help all people everywhere? That doesn't jibe with the 20th century.
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Post by Mars Defense Perimeter on Aug 29, 2017 23:03:28 GMT -5
I was pretty unimpressed with the first Guardians of the Galaxy movie. That's a very unpopular opinion with my wife.
I actually liked Big Fish, but I had a lot of unresolved issues with my dad so THERE YOU GO.
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Post by Nudeviking on Aug 30, 2017 1:05:51 GMT -5
I can count on one hand the number of movies that were improved by seeing them in the theater.
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Post by ArchieLeach on Aug 30, 2017 5:55:03 GMT -5
And his taste in old movies is suspect - he's OK with wooden performances as long as the composition is grand. This better not be about Life and Death of Colonel Blimp because everything about that movie is perfect, darn it! I love Powell and Pressburger. Haven't seen Blimp yet, but it's definitely on my to-do list. No, that comment is based is one what I saw on TCM promos in the past, flicks he talked about loving, probably Westerns. I'll try to provide more evidence next time.
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Post by Post-St. Patty's Day Bloat on Sept 4, 2017 9:05:39 GMT -5
The Lego Movie is the worst movie I can recall watching in the last five years. It's the cinematic equivalent of a small child kicking the back of your seat on an airplane or throwing a temper tantrum in the aisle of a grocery store. I fucking hated every single brightly colored, loud, LOUD minute of that thing.
I hated it so much that when it broke that the same directors were fired from the Han Solo movie, I did a happy dance inside. And I don't even have any interest in the Han Solo movie. I just want to see the creative team that made The Lego Movie fail and flail and suffer.
Whew. That felt good.
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Post by gillianandersoncpr on Sept 4, 2017 17:44:58 GMT -5
I was pretty unimpressed with the first Guardians of the Galaxy movie. That's a very unpopular opinion with my wife. I actually liked Big Fish, but I had a lot of unresolved issues with my dad so THERE YOU GO. I was quite disappointed with the second Guardians movie, and would probably give it a C or C-. It seems to have been well-received in general. Mission: Impossible: Ghost Protocol isn't very good in my estimation.
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Post by louiebb on Sept 4, 2017 20:04:41 GMT -5
Yep, the last movie of his that I actively enjoyed was Mars Attacks from 1996. I know a lot of people liked Big Fish, but at the time when it came out I had no patience for that nonsense. Maybe it would have helped if I had more unresolved issues with my dad. I guess Sweeny Todd was alright, but I mostly just remember Johnny Depp's terrible singing voice. Big Fish was terrible. Finney played just a terrible human being, self-absorbed as all hell; I couldn't believe we were supposed to root for him and Crudup to reconcile.
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Post by louiebb on Sept 4, 2017 20:07:34 GMT -5
I haven't been able to get into any Coen bros work other than The Big Lebowski, mostly because of the clear contempt they have for their own characters. "O Brother Where Art Thou?" Certainly some wry looks towards their characters, but I'd be hard-pressed to find "contempt" in there. For that matter, "Miller's Crossing" has an interesting relationship with its characters, but I'd also say it's far from contemptuous. There are a couple of their movies, even ones I like, where I can get that impression. "Hudsucker" comes to mind. But yeah, I don't think your criticism jibes with their whole portfolio.
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Post by Meth Lab Shenanigans on Sept 4, 2017 22:53:25 GMT -5
I haven't been able to get into any Coen bros work other than The Big Lebowski, mostly because of the clear contempt they have for their own characters. "O Brother Where Art Thou?" Certainly some wry looks towards their characters, but I'd be hard-pressed to find "contempt" in there. For that matter, "Miller's Crossing" has an interesting relationship with its characters, but I'd also say it's far from contemptuous. There are a couple of their movies, even ones I like, where I can get that impression. "Hudsucker" comes to mind. But yeah, I don't think your criticism jibes with their whole portfolio. I haven't seen either of those, so I'll watch them! I actually forgot that O Brother was by the Coens but I've heard great things about it.
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Post by louiebb on Sept 5, 2017 12:37:29 GMT -5
"O Brother Where Art Thou?" Certainly some wry looks towards their characters, but I'd be hard-pressed to find "contempt" in there. For that matter, "Miller's Crossing" has an interesting relationship with its characters, but I'd also say it's far from contemptuous. There are a couple of their movies, even ones I like, where I can get that impression. "Hudsucker" comes to mind. But yeah, I don't think your criticism jibes with their whole portfolio. I haven't seen either of those, so I'll watch them! I actually forgot that O Brother was by the Coens but I've heard great things about it. Hope you like them! They're my favorite Cohens, maybe subconsciously for those reasons you bring up.
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Post by The Sensational She-Hulk on Sept 5, 2017 13:32:58 GMT -5
I was pretty unimpressed with the first Guardians of the Galaxy movie. That's a very unpopular opinion with my wife. I fucking hate that movie so much. The special effects are good, but it's totally devoid of actual feeling. I really resented being emotionally manipulated so blatantly in the opening scene in particular. It was manufactured sentiment and wasn't earned at all. Also, Karen Gillan is not a good actor. There, I said it. And neither is Zoe Saldana.
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Post by louiebb on Sept 6, 2017 19:41:06 GMT -5
I was pretty unimpressed with the first Guardians of the Galaxy movie. That's a very unpopular opinion with my wife. I fucking hate that movie so much. The special effects are good, but it's totally devoid of actual feeling. I really resented being emotionally manipulated so blatantly in the opening scene in particular. It was manufactured sentiment and wasn't earned at all. Also, Karen Gillan is not a good actor. There, I said it. And neither is Zoe Saldana. That movie shocked me by making me cry in the cold open; didn't find it unduly manipulative at all. And then I was giggling like an idiot during the opening credits. There were some issues (Lee Pace among many disposable non-Loki Marvel villains), but lack of feeling wasn't one of them. That was one joyful movie.
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Post by Wallet Inspector on Sept 6, 2017 20:21:42 GMT -5
I haven't been able to get into any Coen bros work other than The Big Lebowski, mostly because of the clear contempt they have for their own characters. Watching the latest Twin Peaks, it occurred to me that in a Coen film Bushnell Mullins' likability and affection for Dougie would probably have gotten him shot to death in a way that would be intended as funny but instead end up as just kind of upsetting. The only Coen film I feel has that quality was Burn After Reading, which is one of the only works of theirs I dislike. I for sure feel that they have plenty of affection for characters like Tom Regan, Marge Gunderson or Ulysses McGill.
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Post by The Sensational She-Hulk on Sept 6, 2017 20:37:17 GMT -5
I fucking hate that movie so much. The special effects are good, but it's totally devoid of actual feeling. I really resented being emotionally manipulated so blatantly in the opening scene in particular. It was manufactured sentiment and wasn't earned at all. Also, Karen Gillan is not a good actor. There, I said it. And neither is Zoe Saldana. That movie shocked me by making me cry in the cold open; didn't find it unduly manipulative at all. And then I was giggling like an idiot during the opening credits. There were some issues (Lee Pace among many disposable non-Loki Marvel villains), but lack of feeling wasn't one of them. That was one joyful movie. It made me cry too, which is why I'm so irritated. It was blatant manipulation. Peter's mother is just a plot device, not a person of her own, and I resent James Gunn fridging a woman just to score cheap sympathy from the audience on Peter's behalf to make us like him more, instead of writing him to actually be sympathetic. Where you felt joy, I felt nothing but cynical marketing stunts meant to sell toys. Not to mention I wasn't real thrilled with the "joke" where Drax called Gamora a whore, which made absolutely no sense other than to make the audience laugh with a gross gendered slur, because god knows we can't have a Marvel movie unless the Smurfette gets degraded in some way. Sorry, but the movie fucking sucked. I hate it, and I am not looking forward to the characters being in Infinity Wars.
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Post by Meth Lab Shenanigans on Sept 6, 2017 20:47:30 GMT -5
I haven't been able to get into any Coen bros work other than The Big Lebowski, mostly because of the clear contempt they have for their own characters. Watching the latest Twin Peaks, it occurred to me that in a Coen film Bushnell Mullins' likability and affection for Dougie would probably have gotten him shot to death in a way that would be intended as funny but instead end up as just kind of upsetting. The only Coen film I feel has that quality was Burn After Reading, which is one of the only works of theirs I dislike. I for sure feel that they have plenty of affection for characters like Tom Regan, Marge Gunderson or Ulysses McGill. Burn After Reading was a big part of what cemented that impression in me. I felt a little weird after watching Fargo, because it wasn't very funny and it wasn't a very good story, but I knew everybody else loved it so I felt lame and was unsure if I was missing the point. I think I'm the only person in the world who thought the whole kidnapping/woodchipper thing wasn't funny. Not to mention I wasn't real thrilled with the "joke" where Drax called Gamora a whore, which made absolutely no sense other than to make the audience laugh with a gross gendered slur, because god knows we can't have a Marvel movie unless the Smurfette gets degraded in some way. Sorry, but the movie fucking sucked. I hate it, and I am not looking forward to the characters being in Infinity Wars. I (mostly) loved both of the movies, but your point about 'the Smurfette' being degraded is a good one. Drax calling Mantis ugly over and over and over and over in the second one like it's supposed to be this great running gag was a really weird, mean-spirited joke(?) in a movie that I otherwise thought was very good. It's just uncomfortable and pointless and left a stain on the whole thing.
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