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Post by The Sensational She-Hulk on Sept 6, 2017 20:55:44 GMT -5
I (mostly) loved both of the movies, but your point about 'the Smurfette' being degraded is a good one. Drax calling Mantis ugly over and over and over and over in the second one like it's supposed to be this great running gag was a really weird, mean-spirited 'joke' in a movie that I otherwise thought was very good. It's just uncomfortable and pointless and left a stain on the whole thing I'm just sick of it. I didn't even see the second one because I hated the first one so much, and now I'm really glad I didn't, because that would have put me through the roof. Yes, call one of the three whole actresses of color in the Marvel Cinematic Universe "ugly" multiple times throughout the course of the movie. Super fucking funny. Good look on ya, Gunn. I'm also not happy with the "joke" about Rocket constantly trying to steal other people's prostheses. It's not even funny to start with, and they just fucking kept it up with the ableist shit.
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Post by Wallet Inspector on Sept 6, 2017 20:56:29 GMT -5
Not to mention I wasn't real thrilled with the "joke" where Drax called Gamora a whore, which made absolutely no sense other than to make the audience laugh with a gross gendered slur, because god knows we can't have a Marvel movie unless the Smurfette gets degraded in some way. Sorry, but the movie fucking sucked. I hate it, and I am not looking forward to the characters being in Infinity Wars. I (mostly) loved both of the movies, but your point about 'the Smurfette' being degraded is a good one. Drax calling Mantis ugly over and over and over and over in the second one like it's supposed to be this great running gag was a really weird, mean-spirited joke(?) in a movie that I otherwise thought was very good. It's just uncomfortable and pointless and left a stain on the whole thing. Yeah, I really wasn't into whatever they were trying to do with that.
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Post by Gamblin' Telly on Sept 7, 2017 6:37:34 GMT -5
This may hardly be an original thought nearly 20 years after the Truman Show came out and I have no idea why I started thinking about it but here goes:
It's established that Truman is owned by the TV studio. Not adopted, which would be bad enough, corporations adopting people, but they literally own him. They have to because that's what makes the show legal and so the plot "work". Now, a world in where people can be legally owned, we had that until not so long ago. It's called slavery. In hindsight, Truman better had stayed in his happy small town bubble cause boy oh boy what a world is the poor guy entering.
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Post by louiebb on Sept 7, 2017 18:07:00 GMT -5
...Where you felt joy, I felt nothing but cynical marketing stunts meant to sell toys. Not to mention I wasn't real thrilled with the "joke" where Drax called Gamora a whore, which made absolutely no sense other than to make the audience laugh with a gross gendered slur, because god knows we can't have a Marvel movie unless the Smurfette gets degraded in some way. Sorry, but the movie fucking sucked. I hate it, and I am not looking forward to the characters being in Infinity Wars. Well, there's a reason this is called the "Unpopular Opinion" thread! Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks. But you're totally right about the use of misogynistic language. That bothered me, and I was grateful that the sequel toned it down.
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Post by gillianandersoncpr on Sept 7, 2017 19:02:57 GMT -5
I'm not an unfeeling monster, but...I remain uncharmed by Baby Groot.
You could say that he *hasn't* grown on me.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Sept 7, 2017 19:25:02 GMT -5
I'm not an unfeeling monster,
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Post by gillianandersoncpr on Sept 7, 2017 21:30:43 GMT -5
I'm not an unfeeling monster, If it was a small tree-child, I would take the candy and gently remind the sapling that he's only supposed to consume sunlight and water.
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Post by Nudeviking on Sept 8, 2017 2:30:07 GMT -5
I'm not an unfeeling monster, but...I remain uncharmed by Baby Groot. You could say that he *hasn't* grown on me. I'm annoyed by the fact that he's referred to as "Baby Groot," when he's clearly "Toddler Groot," throughout Guardians 2. He can talk (apparently in complete enough sentences that Rocket was able to understand him) and walk and follow basic instructions. That's not a baby, that's a toddler.
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Post by chalkdevil's night 😈 on Sept 8, 2017 8:27:52 GMT -5
I'm not an unfeeling monster, but...I remain uncharmed by Baby Groot. You could say that he *hasn't* grown on me. I'm annoyed by the fact that he's referred to as "Baby Groot," when he's clearly "Toddler Groot," throughout Guardians 2. He can talk (apparently in complete enough sentences that Rocket was able to understand him) and walk and follow basic instructions. That's not a baby, that's a toddler. Sapling Groot?
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Post by Nudeviking on Sept 8, 2017 8:35:39 GMT -5
I'm annoyed by the fact that he's referred to as "Baby Groot," when he's clearly "Toddler Groot," throughout Guardians 2. He can talk (apparently in complete enough sentences that Rocket was able to understand him) and walk and follow basic instructions. That's not a baby, that's a toddler. Sapling Groot? That works for me!
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Post by DangOlJimmyITellYouWhat on Sept 8, 2017 8:56:17 GMT -5
I haven't seen either of those, so I'll watch them! I actually forgot that O Brother was by the Coens but I've heard great things about it. Hope you like them! They're my favorite Cohens, maybe subconsciously for those reasons you bring up. Miller's Crossing is amazing, but I am also a huge sucker for noir & gangsters. The Coens are very hit or miss for me. I literally could not make it through Fargo, though. It was so. goddamn. boring.
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Post by DangOlJimmyITellYouWhat on Sept 8, 2017 8:59:05 GMT -5
I'm not an unfeeling monster, but...I remain uncharmed by Baby Groot. You could say that he *hasn't* grown on me. I'm annoyed by the fact that he's referred to as "Baby Groot," when he's clearly "Toddler Groot," throughout Guardians 2. He can talk (apparently in complete enough sentences that Rocket was able to understand him) and walk and follow basic instructions. That's not a baby, that's a toddler. Eh I call kids babies til they're about 4 (although not to their faces) just like I call all dogs puppies, all cats kittens, and all horses ponies. And I am easily charmed by little ones, so I stood less-than-zero chance against teeny Groot.
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Post by Wallet Inspector on Sept 11, 2017 10:08:35 GMT -5
Hope you like them! They're my favorite Cohens, maybe subconsciously for those reasons you bring up. Miller's Crossing is amazing, but I am also a huge sucker for noir & gangsters. The Coens are very hit or miss for me. I literally could not make it through Fargo, though. It was so. goddamn. boring. Yeah, now that we're on the topic of Coens and unpopular opinions: I tend to love their work but Fargo is near the bottom of my list. I love the FX series though!
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Post by Albert Fish Taco on Sept 12, 2017 11:59:14 GMT -5
Miller's Crossing is amazing, but I am also a huge sucker for noir & gangsters. The Coens are very hit or miss for me. I literally could not make it through Fargo, though. It was so. goddamn. boring. Yeah, now that we're on the topic of Coens and unpopular opinions: I tend to love their work but Fargo is near the bottom of my list. I love the FX series though! Despite generally liking Coen stuff (including the divisive Burn After Reading), I too was really underwhelmed by Fargo. I just assumed it was because I'm not amused by Minnesota humor (Garrison Keillor and the like).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 12:05:21 GMT -5
Fargo the TV series blows Fargo the movie out of the water.
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Post by Albert Fish Taco on Sept 12, 2017 12:06:40 GMT -5
Dunkirk was kinda forgettable. It was impressively shot and there wasn't any bad acting or anything (though a lot of the dialogue was a bit too mumbly for my tastes). But it was largely just a lot of running around. I get that, yeah that's what likely was going on, lots of panicked desperate scrambling to and fro. But it didn't make for mind blowing cinema. I suspect if this had been made as part of the raft of mid-70's WW II mega pics shot in Yugoslavia it'd have been a more interesting film.
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Sept 13, 2017 13:38:32 GMT -5
Chinatown isn't all that good of a film.
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Post by louiebb on Sept 13, 2017 13:50:37 GMT -5
Miller's Crossing is amazing, but I am also a huge sucker for noir & gangsters. The Coens are very hit or miss for me. I literally could not make it through Fargo, though. It was so. goddamn. boring. Yeah, now that we're on the topic of Coens and unpopular opinions: I tend to love their work but Fargo is near the bottom of my list. I love the FX series though! Agreed. Fargo's okay. McDormand is great in it. But it's not in my top tier of their works my any means.
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Post by Mr. Greene's October Surprise on Sept 13, 2017 14:32:52 GMT -5
Yeah, now that we're on the topic of Coens and unpopular opinions: I tend to love their work but Fargo is near the bottom of my list. I love the FX series though! Agreed. Fargo's okay. McDormand is great in it. But it's not in my top tier of their works my any means. Unpopular opinion: The Coens use Frances McDormand too much for my tastes. Too large a dose, and she tends to annoy me.
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Post by Prole Hole on Sept 18, 2017 9:37:33 GMT -5
Ex Machina is just the longest, most expensive, most boring episode of Black Mirror ever made.
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Sept 18, 2017 10:17:46 GMT -5
Ex Machina is just the longest, most expensive, most boring episode of Black Mirror ever made. And it had zero scenes where Domhnall Gleason fucks a pig!
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Post by Prole Hole on Sept 18, 2017 11:16:23 GMT -5
Ex Machina is just the longest, most expensive, most boring episode of Black Mirror ever made. And it had zero scenes where Domhnall Gleason fucks a pig! Exactly! (though I want to give a quick shout out to My Boy Charlie Brooker, who won his first Emmy last night for Black Mirror - I'm a huge fan, and my name here comes from a Brooker reference, so I'm thrilled for him).
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Post by Meth Lab Shenanigans on Sept 20, 2017 19:06:54 GMT -5
I dunno if this is unpopular, per se, but I don't think it's a super common opinion to have: Inland Empire is one of the best movies of all time.
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Sept 20, 2017 21:08:46 GMT -5
Until he died today I had no idea that Jake LaMotta was a real person...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2017 21:21:07 GMT -5
I dunno if this is unpopular, per se, but I don't think it's a super common opinion to have: Inland Empire is one of the best movies of all time. Inland Empire is the worst Lynch movie.
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Post by ganews on Sept 20, 2017 21:33:23 GMT -5
High Anxiety is approximately the most disappointed I have ever been in a Mel Brooks movie. It got Hitchcock right, but it is the last Brooks movie I would re-watch. I can’t even name a truly inspired bit like other lesser Brooks movies, like the Alien in Spaceballs, the English accent dig on Kevin Costner in Robin Hood: Men in Tights, or Leslie Nielsen and Peter MacNicol doing their thing in Dracula: Dead and Loving It.
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Post by Prole Hole on Sept 21, 2017 4:10:49 GMT -5
Alien: Covenant is a complete piece of shit movie, and I am at a complete loss to explain the critical warm reaction it received. Let me count the ways... - It's completely derivative of every other Alien movie ever made - almost every single action piece that's done here has been seen before and is done less well that previous Alien movies. The redo-the-chestbuster-but-from-the-back is especially lamentable, regardless of the quality of the special effects, and as for the eject-the-alien-into-space as the movie's climax.... fuck right off.
- Everyone has to be astonishingly blind and/or stupid not to notice that David is, in fact, a massively crazy android who's obviously, massively crazy. Fine, forgive Walter for wanting to believe in his "brother" (in scenes achingly, tediously familiar to anyone who's seen Data and Lore meet up on Star Trek: The Next Generation, and they weren't exactly a highlight there), but the rest of them? Come. The. Fuck. On.
- The editing is often blurred-to-incomprehensible.... especially when it comes to establishing timelines, like the Engineers being pointlessly wiped out in about fifteen hair-tearingly-pointless seconds.
- Katherine Waterston is a feeble clone of action stars - not just Ripley, though also, but any action star, and radiates exactly zero screen presence.
- The rest of the cast are worthless one-note nothings (sole exception: Michael Fassbender, who is uniformly brilliant and needs to be in better Alien movies than this worthless waste of celluloid), who tick exactly one characteristic to mark them apart and have absolutely nothing else going for them.
- *takes deep breath*
- That opening sequence, with the solar sails? Terrific, new to the Alien franchise, and briefly feels like the series is breaking proper, new ground. The distorted comm suddenly being English? Also really well handled, and the only moment of genuine creepiness in the movie. This is... ten minutes into the movie, maybe? Then we get the same series of stupid people making stupid mistakes for stupid reasons in a stupid script that so marred Prometheus. While I do admire the opening scenes on the ship, they also simply serve to highlight how everything else here is just a join-the-dots, cut-and-paste, search-and-replace version of every preceding movie. Prometheus is a bad movie for the most part, but at least it's a genuinely ambitious failure. This? It's like the William Burroughs Cut-Up Technique applied to films rather than song lyrics.
- Answering the question of whether the Xenomorphs are evolved or developed, intelligent or instinctive, completely strips away what makes them a compelling threat in the first place. So they were developed by a crazy-ass android in a cave somewhere. Big fucking whoop. Arrrgh! It reduces them to the status of "any other monster" and takes away the thing that made them a unique cinematic creation - their ambiguity. Of all the sins this appalling misjudged waste of space commits, this is the worst.
OK fine, I'll stop ranting. But this film actively makes me angry, not just because it's so worthless, but because it does active, real damage to the franchine. Sadly, I shall never watch another new Alien movie again. Even Alien vs Predator: Sharknado Prelude (or whatever the fuck it was called) didn't manage to achieve that.
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Post by Dellarigg on Sept 21, 2017 7:08:48 GMT -5
I watched this at the weekend, with my brain completely disengaged, but I thought Billy Crudup was pretty good as the weak man pushed into a position of power and being utterly able to cope. The sequence with the swinging claw arm on the surface of the ship was also watchable. The rest is already leaving my memory banks.
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Post by DangOlJimmyITellYouWhat on Sept 21, 2017 12:44:49 GMT -5
Ex Machina is just the longest, most expensive, most boring episode of Black Mirror ever made. (Black Mirror is awful)
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Post by The Sensational She-Hulk on Sept 21, 2017 13:18:11 GMT -5
Ex Machina is just the longest, most expensive, most boring episode of Black Mirror ever made. (Black Mirror is awful)I've only ever seen one episode of Black Mirror and it was San Junipero and that's the only episode I will ever need to watch.
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