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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Apr 28, 2018 8:01:05 GMT -5
God bless the two speculating nerds walking out behind me, asking the big question on everybody’s mind: “What about the Nova Corps? How many of them are left? Do you think Glenn Close will show up in the next movie?”
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Post by Crash Test Dumbass on Apr 28, 2018 8:09:10 GMT -5
It pleases me to no end that Samuel L. Jackson's last word was "motherf..."
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Post by Nudeviking on Apr 28, 2018 9:36:14 GMT -5
God bless the two speculating nerds walking out behind me, asking the big question on everybody’s mind: “What about the Nova Corps? How many of them are left? Do you think Glenn Close will show up in the next movie?” Half of them are left. Thanos was like the Wet Bandits in Home Alone in that he had a calling card, only instead of flooding a house it was leaving half the population of whatever world he invaded alive.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Apr 28, 2018 10:44:11 GMT -5
God bless the two speculating nerds walking out behind me, asking the big question on everybody’s mind: “What about the Nova Corps? How many of them are left? Do you think Glenn Close will show up in the next movie?” Half of them are left. Thanos was like the Wet Bandits in Home Alone in that he had a calling card, only instead of flooding a house it was leaving half the population of whatever world he invaded alive. You know, I totally forgot they actually mentioned that happening off-screen. My amusement at rampant speculation about tertiary characters stands, though.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2018 10:49:40 GMT -5
I liked it as much as I could. I have not been a fan of the two previous team up films Age of Ultron and Civil War. I wasn't expecting some story that actually had character development or moments to breathe or a villain that actually had depth, and Infinity War had none of that. Just an overly long roller coaster with thrills that is only half way done. But it was the best halfway done overly long roller coaster they could have made, so kudos.
It is really hard for me to be emotionally invested when the real deaths haven't even happened yet. Literally this was only half a movie, so it is hard to truly gauge it off of just the first half. Hopefully the next one can actually bring some real weight to the happenings. Because right now the only "death" that worked for me was Spider-Man because Peter was the only one that even treated it as such.
Though with literally have the MCU wiped out it should be less overstuffed, and all the original avengers are still out there so this will likely be the last time they are all together for a good while, and then the newer people take the spotlight after the next avengers film.
This film and the small part in ragnarok made me really like Dr. Strange, maybe I should finally watch that.
The joke about pratt being fat was dumb because he was super ripped in the first Guardians.
I really want a standalone vision movie based off the Tom King series.
Thanos really does have a nutsack chin.
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Post by Lt. Broccoli on Apr 28, 2018 14:51:07 GMT -5
I was sitting beside an ultimate nerd who would not stop pointing out references and laughing at EVERYTHING
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2018 15:59:30 GMT -5
I was sitting beside an ultimate nerd who would not stop pointing out references and laughing at EVERYTHING Same, it totally detracted from the film for me and my fiancee.
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Post by Floyd Diabolical Barber on Apr 28, 2018 16:40:30 GMT -5
Just saw Infinity War, and had two observations:* 1** When Dr Strange was asked how many alternate futures he saw them winning, he said "one". So why didn't they ask him exactly what he saw them do them do in the winning scenario, then just do that? 2 After seeing so many main and secondary characters summarily killed off, I decided it must be contract renegotiation season at Disney/Marvel.
*I realize I should probably have more after a 7 hour movie that had almost every fictional character ever created, but that's on me. ** I can't hear for shit, especially in a theater, so I'm basing observation #1 on what I thought I heard. Maybe I heard wrong. You don't like that, tough. Make my ears work better.
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Post by Lt. Broccoli on Apr 28, 2018 17:07:19 GMT -5
Just saw Infinity War, and had two observations:* 1** When Dr Strange was asked how many alternate futures he saw them winning, he said "one". So why didn't they ask him exactly what he saw them do them do in the winning scenario, then just do that?
Presumably that’s why Strange gave up the time stone and he’ll save the day in the next movie.
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Post by Floyd Diabolical Barber on Apr 28, 2018 17:11:21 GMT -5
Just saw Infinity War, and had two observations:* 1** When Dr Strange was asked how many alternate futures he saw them winning, he said "one". So why didn't they ask him exactly what he saw them do them do in the winning scenario, then just do that?
Presumably that’s why Strange gave up the time stone and he’ll save the day in the next movie. That's right. Wasn't the last thing he said something like "This was the only way", or something slightly more obtuse, but likely indicating the same thing? I had forgotten that. Good catch.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Apr 28, 2018 17:27:42 GMT -5
Presumably that’s why Strange gave up the time stone and he’ll save the day in the next movie. That's right. Wasn't the last thing he said something like "This was the only way", or something slightly more obtuse, but likely indicating the same thing? I had forgotten that. Good catch. Yea, he was surprisingly nonchalant about getting erased from existence.
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Post by Nudeviking on Apr 28, 2018 17:53:03 GMT -5
Just saw Infinity War, and had two observations:* 1** When Dr Strange was asked how many alternate futures he saw them winning, he said "one". So why didn't they ask him exactly what he saw them do them do in the winning scenario, then just do that?
Presumably that’s why Strange gave up the time stone and he’ll save the day in the next movie. Especially since he made a huge deal about, “If it comes down to protecting the stone or saving you or the kid you and Spider-Man are fucked,” an hour or so before declaring, “Okay you can have a stone Thanos.”
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2018 18:18:03 GMT -5
That's right. Wasn't the last thing he said something like "This was the only way", or something slightly more obtuse, but likely indicating the same thing? I had forgotten that. Good catch. Yea, he was surprisingly nonchalant about getting erased from existence. Everyone who wasn't Spider-Man was.
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Post by Nudeviking on Apr 28, 2018 18:22:25 GMT -5
Yea, he was surprisingly nonchalant about getting erased from existence. Everyone who wasn't Spider-Man was. Groot seemed pretty bummed out about the fact that he was fading from existence too. It must be a teenager thing.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Apr 28, 2018 18:27:28 GMT -5
Yea, he was surprisingly nonchalant about getting erased from existence. Everyone who wasn't Spider-Man was. It was weird that his erasure took so much longer than everyone else. Different topic: was I the only one who found the effect when Thanos used the Reality Stone on Drax and Mantis legitimately unsettling?
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Post by Invisible Goat on Apr 28, 2018 18:35:22 GMT -5
Yeah the crowds at these things are so fucking obnoxious.
It was good though I was expecting a little more surprises. There's no way that everyone that dissolved is actually dead obviously, so I was expecting more major deaths than what we got. And very convenient that they got rid of "half" of everyone that was supposed to be totally random but none of the core Avengers were in the random half that dissolved.
But I did enjoy it. I liked when the cute bug girl said "Kick names, take ass." The Guardians played a lot bigger part than I was expecting/was prepared for because I hadn't seen the 2nd one because the first annoyed me. But I liked them for the most part.
Thank you for answering my question about why Strange gave up his stone for someone he didn't care about at all, that makes perfect sense now and that was my biggest question coming out.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2018 19:28:51 GMT -5
I joked in the shoutbox that Teen Groot and all the ancillary characters die, and apparently that's what actually happens
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Post by Mr. Greene's October Surprise on Apr 28, 2018 19:39:10 GMT -5
Ya should'a' put a poll on the top of this-ass thread.
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Post by Floyd Diabolical Barber on Apr 28, 2018 20:05:49 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2018 20:08:22 GMT -5
Everyone who wasn't Spider-Man was. Groot seemed pretty bummed out about the fact that he was fading from existence too. It must be a teenager thing. Nah, he was just bummed he wouldn't set a new high score on his game.
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Post by Floyd Diabolical Barber on Apr 28, 2018 20:22:51 GMT -5
You know, if the Fantastic Four weren't marooned somewhere in movie purgatory, and were part of the MEU, maybe there could be a storyline where the Avengers and the FF join forces and stir up shit between Thanos and Galactus. They both kind of seem like interstellar assholes. If they could get those two pissed at each other, maybe they would stomp off to some other part of the universe to feud among themselves for a few million years, and our galaxy wouldn't have to put up with them.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Apr 28, 2018 20:55:55 GMT -5
Ya should'a' put a poll on the top of this-ass thread. Poll threads are for desperate attention seekers
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Post by Crash Test Dumbass on Apr 28, 2018 20:58:10 GMT -5
Yea, he was surprisingly nonchalant about getting erased from existence. Everyone who wasn't Spider-Man was. A theory I heard that I liked was that Peter's spider-sense was going crazy as he was being ashed, and that's why he had the most reaction -- he was the only one who had any real warning it was going to happen to him, and he probably felt it more as a result.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Apr 28, 2018 21:00:42 GMT -5
So given what we saw with Gamora and Thanos, and how much they’ve pushed Stark’s paternal and protective of Spider-Man...he’ll definitely have to sacrifice himself to bring for the soul stone to bring Peter back, right?
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Post by Nudeviking on Apr 29, 2018 0:34:51 GMT -5
Can they grow another Groot out of Thor's axe handle?
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Post by Mr. Greene's October Surprise on Apr 29, 2018 2:55:04 GMT -5
Ya should'a' put a poll on the top of this-ass thread. Poll threads are for desperate attention seekers Shut up; you're corn.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Apr 29, 2018 4:15:38 GMT -5
Presumably that’s why Strange gave up the time stone and he’ll save the day in the next movie. That's right. Wasn't the last thing he said something like "This was the only way", or something slightly more obtuse, but likely indicating the same thing? I had forgotten that. Good catch. Yeah, I just figured that in the one future Strange saw where Thanos lost that Tony Stark played a crucial role in that. And he probably knows that trading the stone for Tony will end up with them winning. He probably also knows that he's still alive in that future. So, he was fine with trading the stone for Tony and getting turned to dust. I'd be pretty nonchalant about it if I'd already seen the future and knew that I'd make it. Also @matt1 I liked Dr Strange a lot more in this film and Thor: Ragnarok than I did in his own movie. I found the actual Dr Strange movie kinda boring until the ending. I quite liked the way Strange solved the problem at the end. I like it when the heroes outwit the bad guys. Well, I guess he had some powerful magic helping him, but the bad guy was also super powerful, so Strange genuinely outwitted him. It was neat. Other than that, I found Strange himself boring. I liked him a LOT more in Thor: Ragnarok, and kept liking him in this movie. Also, speaking of Thor, I feel like Thor and Asgard got cheated by Thanos. I think Hela already killed half the Asgardians, like, within the last week in MCU-time. WTF, Thanos? That just seems gratuitous and unfair. Thor is fully justified in being totally pissed off. I also totally called that Loki would sacrifice the stone and maybe himself in order to save Thor/Asgard. (To my friends, I mean.) That, at least, totally fits with the ending of Thor: Ragnarok. That's a nice arc from that movie to this one for Loki. But.....when Marvel said they were really going to kill off characters, I mean....surely there are less interesting, less popular and less useful characters to kill off than Loki, right? Anyway, I didn't like this movie as much as the last Thor movie or Black Panther. I really don't care about the villain. There wasn't enough good character stuff from the heroes. Too many characters, too much action, not enough time. Feel like Hulk/Bruce Banner really deserved more time after what happened in that Thor movie. Shame that this was filmed before Black Panther became a massive hit. Those characters got nothing. I did like Strange's role. He was used to deliver exposition in a better way than Tony Stark. Thor had a decent role, but it kinda sucked to see them do all that to Thor. Man, is he having the shittiest year month, or what? I, too, liked the Peter Parker "death" scene. The Guardians were used pretty well, I guess, but it still all felt like plot devices. It..... it was all....too much, I guess. Too much and not enough, simultaneously. Too much plot, not enough characters. It is hard to care about any of it since we all know there will be a reset button in Part 2. Edit: I see that AA Dowd over at The Old Country posted a review that articulates my thoughts a bit better. His C+ grade is about where I am with this one. (yeah, yeah, the Dowd C+, I know. But, I agree with his actual review.) However, he compared the ending of this movie positively with Rogue One, complimenting it on its downer ending. Seems to imply that it's courageous. Nah, bro. Rogue One actually killed everyone. There is no Part 2. They don't have some magic that will bring everyone back to life. I rated Rogue One about a B+, but the ending was one of the things I really liked about it. And even though they killed everyone, that wasn't courageous either. They had to, or Episode IV wouldn't make any sense. This film only pretended to kill half the characters at the end. And I'm not sure it even counts as pretending since the audience surely knows that all those characters aren't permanently dead. Like, there's no one going, "Oh no, they killed Black Panther! Now there will never be another Black Panther movie!" I think the only character who may be really dead is Loki, and he was killed near the beginning. The end of this film felt silly to me because they're just going to undo it in Part 2. Additionally, Rogue One is a spinoff prequel. It doesn't have any of the main Star Wars characters in it. It is silly to compare how that kind of a film treats its characters to how an Avengers movie will treat its characters. Damn, even when I agree with Dowd, I still find things in his reviews that are just wrong.
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Post by Lone Locust of the Apocalypse on Apr 29, 2018 5:29:50 GMT -5
I liked it a lot more than I thought I would. They somehow gave every character their due without the movie turning into a clusterfuck. The only flaw for me was the ending, since it's obvious those deaths are not permanent.
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Post by Celebith on Apr 29, 2018 7:17:37 GMT -5
I liked it more than Age of Ultron, but less than the first one. I was surprised that they developed Thanos' character and background as much as they did. It was funnier than I expected it to be, and there weren't many good character beats, but there was a lot of good interaction. Looking forward to seeing it again.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Apr 29, 2018 7:24:47 GMT -5
Desert Dweller I mean this not as a defense or to damn, just an observation. All of the criticism applies to basically every print comic book crossover ever.
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