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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2014 16:25:05 GMT -5
He was totally referring to his wife's vagina you guys!
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Post by ganews on Jan 27, 2014 18:22:54 GMT -5
He was totally referring to his wife's vagina you guys! Nobody shucks my corn but meeeeeee!!!
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Jan 27, 2014 22:37:54 GMT -5
I love this show. Two great performances. I'd also like to point out that that Daddario woman is rather fetching; has anyone else noticed? The only, only problem I'm having is that I can't reconcile 1995 Rust with Rust now. I can't quite pinpoint what it is; maybe that he seems "smarter" in 1995 and Rust Now is more . . . folksy? Rust now almost seems more credible an extension of 1995 Marty. I'm sure it's yet to be covered, but that's it really. I had a bit of trouble with this at first too. But it's definitely not difficult to reconcile 1995 Rust's philosophy with current Rust's philosophy. And 1995 Rust hasn't always been the way he is. I highly doubt undercover-narco Rust walked around giving grandiose hyper-intellectual speeches in everyday conversation. And I'm sure pre-dead-daughter Rust wasn't a super-normal guy, but I also wonder how easy it would be to superficially reconcile the married-father-1980-something Rust with 1995 Rust. And given what current Marty is being led to suspect about curren Rust re: whether or not he's being viewed as a suspect in the case, it's not out of the question that depressed drunk Rust is a character. We've already seen 1995 Rust play a devastatingly convincing character in that interrogation scene this week, after all.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Jan 27, 2014 22:42:44 GMT -5
I'm liking that preacher as being involved. Listen to the sermon: lines like "the stars, and the wind between the stars", "the face you wear is not your own" (or, to put it more King In Yellow, "You, sir, should unmask.") Rust's monologues continue to straddle the edge of lucidity and awful madness - his stuff on the power of narrative and religion as a virus not a million miles from some of my own perspectives (but I'm not as bleak about it!). Woody's also killing it as a portrayal of male hypocrisy. It scares me how close some of Cohle's "perspectives" are in line with my own, but like you just not as cynical...... Same here. The fact that I've agreed on a certain level with a lot of the things that Cohle has said, particularly in this episode, made this one of the most difficult-to-watch hours of TV that I've ever seen, in light of how unrelentingly nihilistic Cohle is.
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Post by Post-Lupin on Jan 28, 2014 7:25:01 GMT -5
He was totally referring to his wife's vagina you guys! Nobody shucks my corn but meeeeeee!!! Never rub another man's rhubarb!
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Post by eldan on Jan 31, 2014 0:55:03 GMT -5
He was totally referring to his wife's vagina you guys! Nobody shucks my corn but meeeeeee!!! *punch* "Take that ya freaky piece of shit! You don't mow another man's lawn!" -Woody Harrelson in Kingpin
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Post by Arthur Dent on Feb 1, 2014 9:14:46 GMT -5
I'm officially part of the weird subset of this fandom that, while appreciating/really liking the rest of the show and understanding how unlikely what we want is, are obsessed with the Lovecraftian aspects and hope that Pizzolatto has the crazy balls to use the generic title and plot as a way to ease people in before taking a hard right turn into actual Lovecraftian Horror territory with monsters near the end.
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Feb 1, 2014 17:22:20 GMT -5
I'm officially part of the weird subset of this fandom that, while appreciating/really liking the rest of the show and understanding how unlikely what we want is, are obsessed with the Lovecraftian aspects and hope that Pizzolatto has the crazy balls to use the generic title and plot as a way to ease people in before taking a hard right turn into actual Lovecraftian Horror territory with monsters near the end. My god, that would be amazing.
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Post by Arthur Dent on Feb 1, 2014 17:36:56 GMT -5
I'm officially part of the weird subset of this fandom that, while appreciating/really liking the rest of the show and understanding how unlikely what we want is, are obsessed with the Lovecraftian aspects and hope that Pizzolatto has the crazy balls to use the generic title and plot as a way to ease people in before taking a hard right turn into actual Lovecraftian Horror territory with monsters near the end. My god, that would be amazing. RIGHT? The show's turning out great, and as long as it sticks the landing I'll be more than satisfied with it. Nonetheless, it would fall into my all-time favourites of television, regardless of the subsequent seasons, if it were to be the first and only great Lovecraft story on television. Not to mention that I'd get to say how I totally called one of the most surprising and least likely plot developments in all of dramatic television.
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Feb 1, 2014 18:12:39 GMT -5
There's one other show I can think of that could pull of Lovecraftian, and it's basically the opposite of True Detective: Sleepy Hollow.
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Post by Consolidated Headmelter on Feb 1, 2014 18:27:20 GMT -5
So people caught the references to "The King in Yellow", right?
I've decided I'm finally going to try to watch one of these HBO series from beginning to end. So far I like it.
They seem to be trying to set up stereotypes to lull you - that camp meeting was definitely a set up.
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Feb 1, 2014 18:40:27 GMT -5
So people caught the references to "The King in Yellow", right? I was seriously floored by that reference. Mouth agape in awe and everything. I love this show.
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Post by ganews on Feb 2, 2014 21:40:34 GMT -5
THIS is why True Detective got postponed a week?
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Post by Post-Lupin on Feb 9, 2014 18:12:59 GMT -5
Rewatch of the first 3 episodes: damn it's still powerful, brilliant stuff. And I noticed yet more oddity in Shea Wigham's sermon - specifically, he mentions ash and ashes twice, and oddly - 'drawing a feather through the ash' is one of them. A lot of ash around that first body, what with the burnt crops...
Eager to see what happens next.
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Post by Arthur Dent on Feb 9, 2014 22:23:16 GMT -5
HOLY FUCK
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Post by beema on Feb 9, 2014 22:33:16 GMT -5
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
this show is amazing
my heart is still racing
the fact that some people were watching The Walking Dead tonight instead of this makes me want to projectile vomit
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Post by Post-Lupin on Feb 10, 2014 7:33:45 GMT -5
Let me also say FUCKING HELL. That tracking shot...
Back to Carcosa... the cell scene pretty much states there's a Hellfire Club among the elites of the area, that The King In Yellow is the focus of their worship (mixed in with Satanism, 'cos they don't know any better/is actually connected) & that Ledoux is a major player, likely supplier of their drugs and/or victims. I'll put good money on it the Tuttles run the whole show. The big question remains: is what they worship real in this story?
(Back to Wigham from last episode... when he crossed himself - an odd act for a revival minister - the cross was clearly inverted.)
Oh... and anyone else notice Rust's gang colours had an owl on the back?
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Post by Post-Lupin on Feb 10, 2014 8:47:16 GMT -5
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Post by Arthur Dent on Feb 10, 2014 9:08:43 GMT -5
Let me also say FUCKING HELL. That tracking shot... Back to Carcosa... the cell scene pretty much states there's a Hellfire Club among the elites of the area, that The King In Yellow is the focus of their worship (mixed in with Satanism, 'cos they don't know any better/is actually connected) & that Ledoux is a major player, likely supplier of their drugs and/or victims. I'll put good money on it the Tuttles run the whole show. The big question remains: is what they worship real in this story? (Back to Wigham from last episode... when he crossed himself - an odd act for a revival minister - the cross was clearly inverted.) Oh... and anyone else notice Rust's gang colours had an owl on the back? My brother and I agreed that we couldn't see LeDoux having read Lovecraft or King Yellow himself, but The Tuttle governor and preacher, and/or the revivalist preacher totally could, and taught him about it. Of course, I'd prefer the alternative. . And I am loving the continuing owl motif, going all the way to the production studio for the show.. Having not read his entire body of work, (who has the time/is crazy enough to?) I looked to see if there's an owl motif in any of his stories, but I could only find something by a guy that's contributed to the mythos since Lovecraft's passing, and "The Owl's Ear," which I haven't heard of.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2014 9:18:42 GMT -5
I hope the lovecraft/devil worshipping doesn't become real. I don't mind fantasy at all, but for this? It just takes out a lot of the horror for me actually. I find it more terrifying for people to actually pull this stuff off when it is nothing but blind faith. I also feel it would take away the impact of Rust's existentialism.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2014 9:36:10 GMT -5
THAT TRACKING SHOT, THAT FUCKING TRACKING SHOT.
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Post by beema on Feb 10, 2014 9:39:10 GMT -5
I hope the lovecraft/devil worshipping doesn't become real. I don't mind fantasy at all, but for this? It just takes out a lot of the horror for me actually. I find it more terrifying for people to actually pull this stuff off when it is nothing but blind faith. I also feel it would take away the impact of what Rust's existentialism. Agreed
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Feb 10, 2014 10:05:37 GMT -5
I hope the lovecraft/devil worshipping doesn't become real. I don't mind fantasy at all, but for this? It just takes out a lot of the horror for me actually. I find it more terrifying for people to actually pull this stuff off when it is nothing but blind faith. I also feel it would take away the impact of what Rust's existentialism. Yup. I'm glad to have it as part of the background but I don't want it as an actual explanation for anything.
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Post by Post-Lupin on Feb 10, 2014 10:55:24 GMT -5
I hope the lovecraft/devil worshipping doesn't become real. I don't mind fantasy at all, but for this? It just takes out a lot of the horror for me actually. I find it more terrifying for people to actually pull this stuff off when it is nothing but blind faith. I also feel it would take away the impact of what Rust's existentialism. Yup. I'm glad to have it as part of the background but I don't want it as an actual explanation for anything. Aw, you guys... I'll be happy if it's left there because the rest of it is so damn good, and it would be an interesting take on how pop culture influences faith. Especially as it would be an explicit example of hyper-real religion, which I just happen to be writing a big article about right now. But dammit, the prospect of a show where The King In Yellow isn't only real but has embedded itself into a modern American religion... too tasty not to want.
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Post by Arthur Dent on Feb 10, 2014 11:38:54 GMT -5
I hope the lovecraft/devil worshipping doesn't become real. I don't mind fantasy at all, but for this? It just takes out a lot of the horror for me actually. I find it more terrifying for people to actually pull this stuff off when it is nothing but blind faith. I also feel it would take away the impact of Rust's existentialism. I understand where you're coming from, but A. completely disagree and B. I think you can understand how much it'd mean to me for us to get a straight-up, awesome Lovecraftian tv series.
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Post by Arthur Dent on Feb 10, 2014 11:40:44 GMT -5
I hope the lovecraft/devil worshipping doesn't become real. I don't mind fantasy at all, but for this? It just takes out a lot of the horror for me actually. I find it more terrifying for people to actually pull this stuff off when it is nothing but blind faith. I also feel it would take away the impact of what Rust's existentialism. Yup. I'm glad to have it as part of the background but I don't want it as an actual explanation for anything. Et tu, brute?
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Feb 10, 2014 15:08:15 GMT -5
Yup. I'm glad to have it as part of the background but I don't want it as an actual explanation for anything. Et tu, brute? I do understand! I would love to have a show actually go there. I want some Lovecraftian horror, gorramit! I just don't want it out of THIS show.
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Post by Post-Lupin on Feb 10, 2014 16:39:59 GMT -5
Watched the Last Six Minutes again. Just astonishing: the small details, the choreography, the background action - all flawless. And the soundtrack even goes dulled for a few seconds after the first gunshot, as though you're hearing it through Cohle's ears.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2014 16:54:49 GMT -5
Watched the Last Six Minutes again. Just astonishing: the small details, the choreography, the background action - all flawless. And the soundtrack even goes dulled for a few seconds after the first gunshot, as though you're hearing it through Cohle's ears. This episode actually reminds me of a little debate I once had about whether directors in a TV show matter(I was on the side of yes), this episode pretty much proves it. This was also on an article about how there isn't enough female directors on Doctor Who. So the dipshit I was arguing with was probably a douchebag MRA who was butthurt about "the wimmin" taking his fellow genders jobs.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2014 17:31:49 GMT -5
Here is the entire tracking shot by itself. Enjoy while you can, since it is youtube.
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