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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Feb 17, 2014 22:12:13 GMT -5
I just watched the first episode. It was amazing. Dark, guarded, funny, character-building, great sense of place, the credits are gorgeous. I'm hooked. Are you going to be four weeks behind American audiences the whole way, or did they make all five episodes thus far available to watch?
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Post by beema on Feb 17, 2014 23:48:00 GMT -5
This is easily the best police show since The Wire, and easily, for me, one of the best shows PERIOD since The Wire. This goes in my top 5 with Breaking Bad, Mad Men, Game of Thrones...
I remember when those first promos for it came out and I was like "OH MY GOD THIS SHOW LOOKS AMAZING" but of course I was wondering if it was just a well-cut promo and if the show would live up to it. The show has surpassed it. I'm constantly floored with how good it is, especially for a freshman outing.
The Americans and Masters of Sex both had incredibly strong first seasons last year, but neither were as consistently flawless as this or resonated as deeply with me. I'm intrigued by the impact of the single writer/single director format has had on the show. I have a feeling that has a LOT to do with how powerful it is. A consistent unified vision, making it feel like a film.
ps: matt/cub/mla -- stop threadjacking!
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Feb 18, 2014 5:34:28 GMT -5
I just watched the first episode. It was amazing. Dark, guarded, funny, character-building, great sense of place, the credits are gorgeous. I'm hooked. Are you going to be four weeks behind American audiences the whole way, or did they make all five episodes thus far available to watch? Just the first episode. Their schedule is weekly so I'll be regularly behind.
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Post by Post-Lupin on Feb 18, 2014 6:26:17 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2014 9:18:52 GMT -5
I've been thinking about this a lot this week, as I usually do when Spring is around the corner - Samuel Beckett from Watt:
The crocuses and the larch turning green every year a week before the others and the pastures red with uneaten sheep's placentas and the long summer days and the newmown hay and the wood-pigeon in the morning and the cuckoo in the afternoon and the corncrake in the evening and the wasps in the jam and the smell of the gorse and the look of the gorse and the apples falling and the children walking in the dead leaves and the larch turning brown a week before the others and the chestnuts falling and the howling winds and the sea breaking over the pier and the first fires and the hooves on the road and the consumptive postman whistling The Roses Are Blooming in Picardy and the standard oil-lamp and of course the snow and to be sure the sleet and bless your heart the slush and every fourth year the February debacle and the endless April showers and crocuses and then the whole bloody business starting all over again. A turd. And if I could begin it all over again, knowing what I know now, the result would be the same. And if I could begin again a third time, knowing what I know then, the result would be the same. And if I could begin it all over again a hundred times, knowing each time a little more than the time before, the result would always be the same, and the hundredth life as the first, and the hundred lives as one.
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Post by nottheradio on Feb 23, 2014 22:04:24 GMT -5
Finished all 5 available episodes over the course of a couple days. I watched the pilot, then re-watched it about 2 hours later so I could share my newfound obsession with the fiance. The last time I was this jazzed about a new show this quickly was Mad Men, and the fact that this incarnation is only 8 episodes pisses me off. Despite being a fan of Lovecraft and "weird fiction," I'd never heard of The King in Yellow, and reading about that whole offshoot got me even more excited, even though I'm fairly certain the supernatural won't actually make an appearance.
I didn't even realize that 6 minutes was a tracking shot until I read it online, is how tense I was during that scene (despite knowing that Rust survives)...love it!
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Post by beema on Feb 23, 2014 22:31:55 GMT -5
<3 this show
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 0:26:47 GMT -5
Rust Cohle, Undercover Matador
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Feb 24, 2014 3:40:09 GMT -5
I think this episode helped bridge the gap between 1995 Rust and 2012 Rust. Some of 2002 Rust's mannerisms were starting to shift towards those of present day drunk Rust. There was also an interesting contrast between Marty putting his gun away before confronting Rust in 2002 (which I assumed was partly because he didn't want to do anything more than beat the shit out of his partner rather than out of foresight that shooting Rust would land him in prison), and then in that last scene checking to make sure his pistol was loaded before following Rust out to the bar. And then seeing the busted taillight on Rust's pickup as we go to credits, less subtle, but also a good way of tying those two scenes together.
Also, this show nails the sleek, right-wing, capitalist bent of modern evangelicals so well, what with the modern architecture of Tuttle's university and the people on Segways. And that scene also explains why creepy-school from last week was Catholic, if Tuttle's program was funding private groups, it makes sense that not all of them would be the same denomination, and so long as the Catholic ones were your super-conservative-traditionalist types, I'm sure he'd fund such a school.
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Post by Post-Lupin on Feb 24, 2014 18:53:42 GMT -5
From this review: So, Joel trained in one of Tuttle's seminaries? Guess that's where the Carcosan elements of his revival preaching came from. And let's say this out loud: either Rust is horribly bad at his job over the last 17 years and just couldn't find a not-unknown and influential horror classic, or this show is set in a world where The King In Yellow is not fiction. Until someone on the show says the name Robert W. Chambers, we have to assume the latter is the case, with all that implies.
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Post by Consolidated Headmelter on Feb 24, 2014 19:22:39 GMT -5
From this review: So, Joel trained in one of Tuttle's seminaries? Guess that's where the Carcosan elements of his revival preaching came from. And let's say this out loud: either Rust is horribly bad at his job over the last 17 years and just couldn't find a not-unknown and influential horror classic, or this show is set in a world where The King In Yellow is not fiction. Until someone on the show says the name Robert W. Chambers, we have to assume the latter is the case, with all that implies. I was thinking the same thing - if his fiction were out there, you'd have thought one of the detectives would have googled it by 2012.
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Post by Post-Lupin on Feb 25, 2014 14:06:51 GMT -5
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Post by Post-Lupin on Mar 1, 2014 4:07:13 GMT -5
Oh guys... want to see the uncut version of Pastor Theriot's tent revival preaching?
Trust me - the answer is yes.
He's flat-out preaching the Black Iron Prison right there. Remember, this is the theology he learned in a Tuttle seminary...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2014 10:35:14 GMT -5
Oh guys... want to see the uncut version of Pastor Theriot's tent revival preaching? Trust me - the answer is yes. He's flat-out preaching the Black Iron Prison right there. Remember, this is the theology he learned in a Tuttle seminary... I hope when Boardwalk Empire ends that he can get another role on TD, an expanded one.
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Post by beema on Mar 1, 2014 11:22:25 GMT -5
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Post by Post-Lupin on Mar 1, 2014 14:46:57 GMT -5
Most ridiculous thing there are the prices. Which is saying a lot.
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Post by Post-Lupin on Mar 2, 2014 8:18:18 GMT -5
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Post by ganews on Mar 2, 2014 15:24:35 GMT -5
Did you go back and look at this avatar? It's a hint that I am the Yellow King.
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Post by Post-Lupin on Mar 2, 2014 18:14:46 GMT -5
Oh, I forgot to tell you. Showed Tonks the first episode on Thursday night. She immediately demanded the next two, and we finished the catch-up Friday. So chuffed this is something we can share!
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Post by beema on Mar 2, 2014 23:02:03 GMT -5
Erik Adams gave this episode a C
Let's fucking cut his face off
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Post by ganews on Mar 2, 2014 23:06:37 GMT -5
Erik Adams gave this episode a C Let's fucking cut his face off Oh be nice. I'm glad I didn't recognize the lawnmower man until someone pointed him out in tonight's comments.
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Post by ganews on Mar 2, 2014 23:53:59 GMT -5
The Man's "Thanks to God" Oscar acceptance speech is a hilarious juxtaposition to True Detective.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2014 0:26:50 GMT -5
MY WHOLE LIFE IS THIS ONE EXPANDING CIRCULAR FUCKUP -------------- MY LIFE HAS BEEN A CIRCLE OF VIOLENCE AND DEGRADATION
holy recursion, Taxman! You rang? Cause I can recurse you all night.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2014 0:28:03 GMT -5
Erik Adams gave this episode a C Let's fucking cut his face off Yet Grimm and Helix were just given A- on friday. The world works in mysterious ways.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Mar 3, 2014 1:23:42 GMT -5
Erik Adams gave this episode a C Let's fucking cut his face off Yet Grimm and Helix were just given A- on friday. The world works in mysterious ways. An A- by Grimm standards is a B by any other show's standards. This episode sure as hell wasn't a C, but it was far from the best episode of the season either. The character stuff has always been the best stuff on this show, and Marty and Rust getting along better than ever made for some of the weakest character stuff yet. I'm not sure we saw enough of 2010 Rust to really get the full impact of just how close he came to losing all connection with reality. Most of that first scene in the trailer before he showed Marty Tuttle's child porn came off more as the "well I'm just the one asking all the questions" brand of illogical conspiracy rather than a descent into near insanity. As far as the case goes, most of the reveals tonight were nothing special, just enough pieces falling into place to get us ready for next week. And I think that's my problem with the episode in general, that it was basically just an episode about moving pieces around, which is kind of underwhelming for the penultimate hour of an eight-episode show. It was certainly enjoyable, but I'd have probably given it a B-. I mean, obviously this is just my opinion, but yeah, I wasn't tremendously impressed by this one.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2014 2:00:30 GMT -5
Yet Grimm and Helix were just given A- on friday. The world works in mysterious ways. An A- by Grimm standards is a B by any other show's standards. This episode sure as hell wasn't a C, but it was far from the best episode of the season either. The character stuff has always been the best stuff on this show, and Marty and Rust getting along better than ever made for some of the weakest character stuff yet. I'm not sure we saw enough of 2010 Rust to really get the full impact of just how close he came to losing all connection with reality. Most of that first scene in the trailer before he showed Marty Tuttle's child porn came off more as the "well I'm just the one asking all the questions" brand of illogical conspiracy rather than a descent into near insanity. As far as the case goes, most of the reveals tonight were nothing special, just enough pieces falling into place to get us ready for next week. And I think that's my problem with the episode in general, that it was basically just an episode about moving pieces around, which is kind of underwhelming for the penultimate hour of an eight-episode show. It was certainly enjoyable, but I'd have probably given it a B-. I mean, obviously this is just my opinion, but yeah, I wasn't tremendously impressed by this one. I thought the character stuff was on par this episode. Especially the way marty has evolved over the years and a look into how pathetic his life has become. The scene where he was saying goodbye to Maggie was pivotal. And as far as with Rusts descent into insanity, I don't think he has ever really gone off the deep end. Has he fallen? Sure, but even in the interrogation scenes there was still some sense to be made out, it wasn't just mindless rambling. Also, the whole time he has been the only one asking the questions, that is perfectly consistent with the series so far. THE SPRAWL! THE SPRAWL! I have nothing wrong with episodes that are just about setting up the pieces for the finale, as long as they are entertaining, and this episode certainly was. A lot of series have moved towards having the penultimate episode be the climax and the finale be the aftermath(thanks Sopranos, The Wire), but I'm fine with having this be the calm before the storm. And as far as the whole grading based on the show not as a whole, the AVC does it, but only to a point. Even with that grading scale they still hold off on lots of the higher grades for the best shows and the lower grades for the worst show. That is my problem with the C grade, because C on AVC usually means the episode was in bad territory, and this was far from bad.
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Post by Post-Lupin on Mar 3, 2014 7:23:14 GMT -5
A fine piece at Daily Beast speculating on the ending - some interview quotes from Pizzolatto and Monaghan which might be considered mildly spoilery. Especially interesting is the insistence that there won't be a "supernatural ending"... but I'll wager the wind of Carcosa will still be in the atmosphere. And, for those of us who are still feeling the King in Yellow material matters; here's what the Tuttle's ex-maid said:
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