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Post by Kangaroosevelt-Ecks on Jun 9, 2017 23:07:24 GMT -5
Um... woo! Not a sweep! Hello dead board!
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Jun 23, 2017 8:33:10 GMT -5
I don't even really like Jimmy Butler that much, but I'm pumped. This is the first big pro-active move the T-Wolves have made in over a decade, since they put together the KG, Spree, Sam Cassell core. Take that actual contenders!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2017 18:55:52 GMT -5
Why the fuck are the Cavs so deadset on getting Paul George? He is probably a better player than love straight up, but he doesn't fit as well as Love does with the Cavs. The Cavs lose size and inside presence on the boards with Love, and Love is also a better three point shooter. While George effectively plays the same position as Lebron. I guess they could move JR Smith out of the starting lineup, because the Cavs would be dumb to try and go small and force Lebron more into a PF/point forward spot. The dude is 33 years old with LOTS of NBA miles on him, he should not be playing like a big man, it will put more wear and tear on him before the finals.
This is like when there were rumors this trade deadline of Melo for Love, it just doesn't make sense. Now if they could keep love and still get george? Yeah, do that. But that isn't gonna happen, and the cavs are filling in holes while also making new ones.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Jun 26, 2017 9:27:08 GMT -5
Why the fuck are the Cavs so deadset on getting Paul George? He is probably a better player than love straight up, but he doesn't fit as well as Love does with the Cavs. The Cavs lose size and inside presence on the boards with Love, and Love is also a better three point shooter. While George effectively plays the same position as Lebron. I guess they could move JR Smith out of the starting lineup, because the Cavs would be dumb to try and go small and force Lebron more into a PF/point forward spot. The dude is 33 years old with LOTS of NBA miles on him, he should not be playing like a big man, it will put more wear and tear on him before the finals. This is like when there were rumors this trade deadline of Melo for Love, it just doesn't make sense. Now if they could keep love and still get george? Yeah, do that. But that isn't gonna happen, and the cavs are filling in holes while also making new ones. because they have trouble playing Love and Thompson at the same against the Warriors, I think. The idea that the Love/Thompson frontcourt was going to give them some big rebounding advantage in the finals never really came to pass, did it? If they could go small-ish with an Irving-Smith-George-LeBron-Thompson line-up, that matches up much better defensively with Golden State than what they have now and I don't think you really lose that much on offense in terms of spacing if you're moving James to the 4 spot. I don't know if it gets them over the hump (I don't think so), but they clearly need to do something other than run back this core if their goal is to win a title and Love-for-George feels like the best realistic deal available. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 11:54:50 GMT -5
Why the fuck are the Cavs so deadset on getting Paul George? He is probably a better player than love straight up, but he doesn't fit as well as Love does with the Cavs. The Cavs lose size and inside presence on the boards with Love, and Love is also a better three point shooter. While George effectively plays the same position as Lebron. I guess they could move JR Smith out of the starting lineup, because the Cavs would be dumb to try and go small and force Lebron more into a PF/point forward spot. The dude is 33 years old with LOTS of NBA miles on him, he should not be playing like a big man, it will put more wear and tear on him before the finals. This is like when there were rumors this trade deadline of Melo for Love, it just doesn't make sense. Now if they could keep love and still get george? Yeah, do that. But that isn't gonna happen, and the cavs are filling in holes while also making new ones. because they have trouble playing Love and Thompson at the same against the Warriors, I think. Â The idea that the Love/Thompson frontcourt was going to give them some big rebounding advantage in the finals never really came to pass, did it? Â If they could go small-ish with an Irving-Smith-George-LeBron-Thompson line-up, that matches up much better defensively with Golden State than what they have now and I don't think you really lose that much on offense in terms of spacing if you're moving James to the 4 spot. Â I don't know if it gets them over the hump (I don't think so), but they clearly need to do something other than run back this core if their goal is to win a title and Love-for-George feels like the best realistic deal available. I just dont think it really makes them better. Their only hope is to be able to beat the warriors at the game they don't play, because they aren't going to beat them at how they play. |
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Jun 26, 2017 12:13:42 GMT -5
because they have trouble playing Love and Thompson at the same against the Warriors, I think. Â The idea that the Love/Thompson frontcourt was going to give them some big rebounding advantage in the finals never really came to pass, did it? Â If they could go small-ish with an Irving-Smith-George-LeBron-Thompson line-up, that matches up much better defensively with Golden State than what they have now and I don't think you really lose that much on offense in terms of spacing if you're moving James to the 4 spot. Â I don't know if it gets them over the hump (I don't think so), but they clearly need to do something other than run back this core if their goal is to win a title and Love-for-George feels like the best realistic deal available. I just dont think it really makes them better. Their only hope is to be able to beat the warriors at the game they don't play, because they aren't going to beat them at how they play. Well, the other problem is that at this point Love is basically their only movable piece of note. Kyrie and LeBron seem untouchable and I can't believe there's a market for any of their other guys. They're too capped out to go sign anyone relevant. I don't think George is a slam dunk to make them better to the point of beating the Warriors, but it at least adds some new variability to the mix. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 17:35:35 GMT -5
I just dont think it really makes them better. Their only hope is to be able to beat the warriors at the game they don't play, because they aren't going to beat them at how they play. Well, the other problem is that at this point Love is basically their only movable piece of note. Kyrie and LeBron seem untouchable and I can't believe there's a market for any of their other guys. They're too capped out to go sign anyone relevant. I don't think George is a slam dunk to make them better to the point of beating the Warriors, but it at least adds some new variability to the mix. The Cavs still made the finals and were a durant 3 pointer away from the series possibly being 2-2, and the last game was semi close. I get that the cavs need to make a move, but maybe a better bench. A bench that won't squander a 10 point lead in a minute thirty. I just think teams making a deal just to make a deal is dumb, and I feel that this is that situation. |
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Aug 23, 2017 20:52:45 GMT -5
So, Kyrie in Boston....pretty crazy
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Post by thepromisedprince on Aug 23, 2017 22:25:53 GMT -5
Any Celtics fans here with thoughts on the trade? I know that city was in love with IT, even if it works out in the long run that's tough as fuck to trade a guy who just became the beloved face of your franchise.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Aug 28, 2017 21:51:09 GMT -5
Any Celtics fans here with thoughts on the trade? I know that city was in love with IT, even if it works out in the long run that's tough as fuck to trade a guy who just became the beloved face of your franchise. Is there any precedent for a blockbuster trade falling apart like this? The Chris Paul trade between NO-Houston-Lakers is the closest I can recall, but that was a different and weird deal with the league running the Hornets and nixing that trade. |
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Nov 7, 2017 10:56:05 GMT -5
Bledsoe to the Bucks for Monroe & a pick. That is a nice compliment to Giannis. I'm sure they'll miss Monroe's scoring off the bench some, but this is clearly an improvement for Milwaukee that pushes them firmly up into the Eastern Conference championship mix, right?
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Mar 30, 2018 13:54:36 GMT -5
Has anyone ever mentioned before how Dwight Howard is very tall?
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Post by Desert Dweller on Mar 30, 2018 21:45:38 GMT -5
LOL Suns. I don't watch NBA, so I have mercifully been spared watching this. But with the DBacks win on Opening Day, and the Suns loss tonight, the DBacks officially have more wins in March (1) than the Suns do (0).
Joke's on them. They think this will help in the Draft Lottery. They forget that they play in Phoenix. Phoenix teams are fated to never have luck with the Lottery position.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Mar 31, 2018 0:04:05 GMT -5
LOL Suns. I don't watch NBA, so I have mercifully been spared watching this. But with the DBacks win on Opening Day, and the Suns loss tonight, the DBacks officially have more wins in March (1) than the Suns do (0). Joke's on them. They think this will help in the Draft Lottery. They forget that they play in Phoenix. Phoenix teams are fated to never have luck with the Lottery position. Has the worst team in the NBA ever won first place in the draft lottery? |
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Post by Desert Dweller on Mar 31, 2018 0:25:47 GMT -5
LOL Suns. I don't watch NBA, so I have mercifully been spared watching this. But with the DBacks win on Opening Day, and the Suns loss tonight, the DBacks officially have more wins in March (1) than the Suns do (0). Joke's on them. They think this will help in the Draft Lottery. They forget that they play in Phoenix. Phoenix teams are fated to never have luck with the Lottery position. Has the worst team in the NBA ever won first place in the draft lottery? I've no idea. It must have happened some time, right? DBacks now have 2 wins in March. Suns - zero. LOL Coyotes are tied for 2nd worst in the NHL and even they have 9 wins in March. Of course, they only have 27 wins all season, so March featured a full 1/3 of their season wins. But still. The points is, Ha ha Suns, you are terrible. |
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Mar 31, 2018 0:30:55 GMT -5
Has the worst team in the NBA ever won first place in the draft lottery? I've no idea. It must have happened some time, right? DBacks now have 2 wins in March. Suns - zero. LOL Coyotes are tied for 2nd worst in the NHL and even they have 9 wins in March. Of course, they only have 27 wins all season, so March featured a full 1/3 of their season wins. But still. The points is, Ha ha Suns, you are terrible. Turns out the answer is yes. The last three seasons in a row in fact, the worst team has won the draft lottery despite having only a 25% chance of winning each time. And the Coyotes have no incentive to tank, since we all know that the Oilers will win the draft lottery now that they're so terrible again that not even McDavid can get them into the playoffs. |
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Post by Desert Dweller on Apr 1, 2018 22:57:21 GMT -5
I've no idea. It must have happened some time, right? DBacks now have 2 wins in March. Suns - zero. LOL Coyotes are tied for 2nd worst in the NHL and even they have 9 wins in March. Of course, they only have 27 wins all season, so March featured a full 1/3 of their season wins. But still. The points is, Ha ha Suns, you are terrible. Turns out the answer is yes. The last three seasons in a row in fact, the worst team has won the draft lottery despite having only a 25% chance of winning each time. Expect that to be broken this year. The local paper ran a story today about the Suns and the Draft possibilities. This story includes the line "The only luck the Phoenix Suns have had with the Draft Lottery is bad luck." I fully anticipate the Suns ending up with the 4th pick. That would just follow the trend for Phoenix sports teams. McDavid himself is a nice reminder of why tanking for draft picks is really useless. |
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Apr 1, 2018 23:15:48 GMT -5
Turns out the answer is yes. The last three seasons in a row in fact, the worst team has won the draft lottery despite having only a 25% chance of winning each time. Expect that to be broken this year. The local paper ran a story today about the Suns and the Draft possibilities. This story includes the line "The only luck the Phoenix Suns have had with the Draft Lottery is bad luck." I fully anticipate the Suns ending up with the 4th pick. That would just follow the trend for Phoenix sports teams. McDavid himself is a nice reminder of why tanking for draft picks is really useless.
Not to mention, the Sabres team from 2014-2015, who did exactly the same thing that numerous other sports teams have done over the years, and tanked when they were awful, are held in contempt as history's most egregious and contemptible tankers, despite the fact that they didn't even get the generational player who they were tanking for. And yet, they were a genuinely awful team to begin with. That team was never going to be any good. And yet, last season, when Colorado finished the season with less points that Buffalo had in 2014-2015 despite all the elite players like MacKinnon, Landeskog, and Duchene that they had from all the times they've been terrible in the last decade and had high draft picks, all anyone could talk about was how much it sucked for the Avs that they didn't win the draft lottery, despite the fact that they tanked way worse than the Sabres despite having a bunch of good players on their roster. |
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on May 2, 2018 6:48:11 GMT -5
Haha, peak Raptors
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Post by Some Kind of Munster on May 2, 2018 7:59:35 GMT -5
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on May 4, 2018 9:47:55 GMT -5
At least the Toronto Rock will never let me down Man, I at least thought they were going to come back and make it a series. LeBron might get the damn sweep here. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2018 10:14:59 GMT -5
The celtics are gonna be good for a long time.
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Post by Some Kind of Munster on May 4, 2018 12:32:41 GMT -5
At least the Toronto Rock will never let me down Man, I at least thought they were going to come back and make it a series. LeBron might get the damn sweep here. That's starting to sound like the least painful option here. I heard a bit of the first half in the car and things seemed to be going pretty well (Raps were up by 9 at one point!) but by the time I got to a TV in the 4th quarter everything had apparently gone completely to shit. I didn't even bother sticking around to see the final score but I'm gonna guess things didn't get any better |
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on May 4, 2018 12:35:04 GMT -5
The celtics are gonna be good for a long time. Yea, it's getting a little overshadowed by yet another Raptors meltdown, but holy crap did we go from "The Young Sixers are going to the Finals ahead of schedule!" to "How the fuck is Boston doing this without their two (assumed) best players?!" lighting fast. |
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Post by Kangaroosevelt-Ecks on May 27, 2018 22:06:30 GMT -5
Eight straight years of LeBron. Unreal.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2018 13:04:15 GMT -5
Eight straight years of LeBron. Unreal. Meh, maybe if the east was stronger, if he actually won every finals, or if it was like the NFL playoffs and one game and it's out. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2018 22:45:35 GMT -5
Ugggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on May 29, 2018 10:04:05 GMT -5
Eight straight years of LeBron. Unreal. Meh, maybe if the east was stronger, if he actually won every finals, or if it was like the NFL playoffs and one game and it's out. I mean...the Eastern Conference has been varying levels of lousy for most of my basketball fandom (Jason Kidd and the early-00's Nets say hi!) and still nobody has had this kind of streak since what...Bill Russell schooling teams of goofy-looking white guys? I mean, let's appreciate the longevity and improbability here. Jordan would have probably had a good shot at accomplishing a similar feat had he not taken a two-year sabbatical, but I am beyond skeptical that he would have notched a perfect finals record if he had to play 8 straight (though of course we'll never know). Plus, let's consider what would have happened if you took the 1996-1998 Jazz and just swapped out Jeff Hornacek and Bryon Russell for Reggie Miller and Chris Mullin or two other All-Star level guys. And then let's take the 1998 Bulls, but instead of Pippen and Rodman you get like...Alonzo Mourning and a bunch of scrubs. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2018 22:27:00 GMT -5
Meh, maybe if the east was stronger, if he actually won every finals, or if it was like the NFL playoffs and one game and it's out. I mean...the Eastern Conference has been varying levels of lousy for most of my basketball fandom (Jason Kidd and the early-00's Nets say hi!) and still nobody has had this kind of streak since what...Bill Russell schooling teams of goofy-looking white guys? I mean, let's appreciate the longevity and improbability here. Jordan would have probably had a good shot at accomplishing a similar feat had he not taken a two-year sabbatical, but I am beyond skeptical that he would have notched a perfect finals record if he had to play 8 straight (though of course we'll never know). Plus, let's consider what would have happened if you took the 1996-1998 Jazz and just swapped out Jeff Hornacek and Bryon Russell for Reggie Miller and Chris Mullin or two other All-Star level guys. And then let's take the 1998 Bulls, but instead of Pippen and Rodman you get like...Alonzo Mourning and a bunch of scrubs. I just think two 3 peats separated only by a sabbatical for gambling.... ehhh baseball, is more impressive than 3 titles inbetween a bunch of losing. Especially when with the Heat they were the best team in the league and only managed to go 2-2. |
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