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Post by NerdInTheBasement on Oct 30, 2014 11:35:08 GMT -5
What I'm trying to say is, ifwewait, ya mind if I join you and MurderLangdonAlger in eagerly anticipating these movies?? All are welcome! We'll talk excitedly about everything we want to see in the movies! Oh that sounds wonderful! I'm hoping to see some Lockjaw (who I seriously can't believe is gonna be in a major motion picture, God bless you Marvel) shenanigans in Inhumans and some neat Steve Rogers/Tony Stark interactions in Captain America: Civil War myself!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 11:44:00 GMT -5
All told, any smidgen of grumpiness I may eventually feel about one of my favorite DC properties being mishandled (but it could be good! The Question! Darkseid! Hawkgirl!) will immediately dissipate when I wrap myself in the warm glow of a brand new, Lucas-free Star Goddamn Motherfucking Wars movie.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Oct 30, 2014 11:46:59 GMT -5
I think it's pretty natural for enthusiasm to have waned a bit. Nothing since Avengers has really carried that sense of "I can't believe this movie is actually happening", for me at least. I'm still happy when I go see them, and will get especially pumped the week of if it gets decent reviews, but it will never be like going to that first round of super hero movies ever again.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 12:40:07 GMT -5
I will never be a fan of the same movie being split in two. It isn't a sequel, it is a narrative clusterfuck. I would honestly rather have them make a 3 hour movie if need be.
And another problem I specifically have is that I don't think these movies as a collective whole are that great. Good, decent fun, but they do all just blur together. The thing that makes them seem big is because they are interconnected, not so much the actual quality of the work. And now that we are like 10 films in, it has worn off like Owl said. And as far as DC goes, I just fear them flat out sucking.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Oct 30, 2014 12:50:09 GMT -5
I will never be a fan of the same movie being split in two. It isn't a sequel, it is a narrative clusterfuck. I would honestly rather have them make a 3 hour movie if need be. And another problem I specifically have is that I don't think these movies as a collective whole are that great. Good, decent fun, but they do all just blur together. The thing that makes them seem big is because they are interconnected, not so much the actual quality of the work. And now that we are like 10 films in, it has worn off like Owl said. And as far as DC goes, I just fear them flat out sucking. Matt, what do you think about a movie being split into FOUR PARTS? I ask because I am pretty confident that Captain Marvel and Inhumans are going to end up tying in heavily to fill in the gaps of the two Infinity Wars movies.
And say what you want about Marvel and the novelty wearing off, at the very least their movies are confident and if we were going to get massive shared universe franchises, I'm glad they came first. Now that we have a decent-to-great baseline to base judgment on, I feel pretty comfortable just opting out of the shitty looking Spider-verse and DC/Snyder-verse.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 13:13:39 GMT -5
I will never be a fan of the same movie being split in two. It isn't a sequel, it is a narrative clusterfuck. I would honestly rather have them make a 3 hour movie if need be. And another problem I specifically have is that I don't think these movies as a collective whole are that great. Good, decent fun, but they do all just blur together. The thing that makes them seem big is because they are interconnected, not so much the actual quality of the work. And now that we are like 10 films in, it has worn off like Owl said. And as far as DC goes, I just fear them flat out sucking. Matt, what do you think about a movie being split into FOUR PARTS? I ask because I am pretty confident that Captain Marvel and Inhumans are going to end up tying in heavily to fill in the gaps of the two Infinity Wars movies.
And say what you want about Marvel and the novelty wearing off, at the very least their movies are confident and if we were going to get massive shared universe franchises, I'm glad they came first. Now that we have a decent-to-great baseline to base judgment on, I feel pretty comfortable just opting out of the shitty looking Spider-verse and DC/Snyder-verse.
I really hope it isn't 4 parts, I hope inhumans and captain marvel will for the most part be about them, then they join in for part 2. I actually enjoy the newer Spider-Man films. Not as much as the good marvel ones, so I will still watch those films. Though I'm more for wanting to see ASM 3 than Sinister Six. And DC just has to go and dangle Captain Marvel(Shazam) in front of me, I would also be interested in the flash, but honestly the TV show has been filling that want.
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Oct 30, 2014 13:17:34 GMT -5
Matt, what do you think about a movie being split into FOUR PARTS? I ask because I am pretty confident that Captain Marvel and Inhumans are going to end up tying in heavily to fill in the gaps of the two Infinity Wars movies.
And say what you want about Marvel and the novelty wearing off, at the very least their movies are confident and if we were going to get massive shared universe franchises, I'm glad they came first. Now that we have a decent-to-great baseline to base judgment on, I feel pretty comfortable just opting out of the shitty looking Spider-verse and DC/Snyder-verse.
I really hope it isn't 4 parts, I hope inhumans and captain marvel will for the most part be about them, then they join in for part 2. I actually enjoy the newer Spider-Man films. Not as much as the good marvel ones, so I will still watch those films. Though I'm more for wanting to see ASM 3 than Sinister Six. And DC just has to go and dangle Captain Marvel(Shazam) in front of me, I would also be interested in the flash, but honestly the TV show has been filling that want. It was liberating for me to have both the ASM movies come and go from the theaters without me feeling any sort of compulsion to get out and see them, especially when I know I will end up going to see every MCU and X-men (not Wolverine) movie until the end of time.
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Post by NerdInTheBasement on Oct 31, 2014 13:58:11 GMT -5
Anyone wanna say what movie of the newly announced Phase Three Marvel features they're looking forward to the most? For me, it's The Avengers: Infinity War, and then a three way tie between these films.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2014 13:07:20 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to Cap 3 the most. The cap part of the MCU has been the best and I see that holding up.
One thing I forgot to say earlier though, is that I am surprised to see the Inhumans here. Thought they were a part of the FF license. Guess it is just Galactus/Silver Surfer and the Skrull. Which I am sad that Galactus will never be in the MCU. He is a perfect BIG villain that all the heroes would have to take on. Dr. Doom could also be the BIG villain.
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Post by NerdInTheBasement on Nov 11, 2014 21:38:53 GMT -5
The Punisher got referened again in the MCU tonight on Agents of SHIELD (specifically his sidekick Microchip) the second time he's been referenced in the MCU. Let's get Jason Statham as Frank castle up In here!!
Also; massive Inhumans connections of Agents of SHIELD tonight as well. Very exciting!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 19:30:11 GMT -5
Daniel Bruhl(for those who don't know, he was robbed of the best supporting oscar last year for his performance in Rush, didn't even get nominated!) was cast in Cap 3 as a villain, not the main villain, but also could potentially be the main villain for Dr. Strange. So wooooooooo! Captain America films keep being my one true hope for the MCU.
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Post by Lone Locust of the Apocalypse on Nov 14, 2014 19:44:35 GMT -5
I really like that Captain Marvel font.
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Post by NerdInTheBasement on Nov 14, 2014 21:38:11 GMT -5
Daniel Bruhl(for those who don't know, he was robbed of the best supporting oscar last year for his performance in Rush, didn't even get nominated!) was cast in Cap 3 as a villain, not the main villain, but also could potentially be the main villain for Dr. Strange. So wooooooooo! Captain America films keep being my one true hope for the MCU. I have a feeling Variety may have been misinformed about the Doctor Strange thing, because, man, I really wanna believe that Bruhl is Baron Zemo in Cap 3. Because A) Bruhl would make an excellent antagonist and B) I'd love to see Zemo in an MCU movie.
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Post by Pear on Nov 24, 2014 17:56:13 GMT -5
I know Wonder Woman is DC, but this is as good a place to put it as any:
Michelle MacLaren is directing, and I am now interested.
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Post by NerdInTheBasement on Nov 24, 2014 19:36:31 GMT -5
I know Wonder Woman is DC, but this is as good a place to put it as any: Michelle MacLaren is directing, and I am now interested. I'll be sure to set up a DC Cinematic Universe thread for stuff like this but YYYYYYEEEEEESSSSSS
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Post by Bizarre Gardening Accident on Nov 25, 2014 8:15:59 GMT -5
Campaign starts here for a "Nextwave: Agents of HATE" movie
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 11:10:02 GMT -5
Campaign starts here for a "Nextwave: Agents of HATE" movie I still have that on my Amazon wishlist from like 3 years ago.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 16:23:17 GMT -5
I know Wonder Woman is DC, but this is as good a place to put it as any: Michelle MacLaren is directing, and I am now interested. If there is a WW sequel, I hope she gets that one as well. Since her hands will likely be tied by a muddled narrative in this one, since it seems like they are going to be going off the nu52 origins of WW.
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Post by flapjackriley on Dec 3, 2014 2:13:05 GMT -5
So Buzzfeed just released an interview with Evangeline Lilly where she talks about Ant-Man. She basically confirms what many have been speculating about in regards to Edgar Wright's departure: his Ant-Man was not compatible with the Marvel Cinematic Universe. It worked as a stand-alone Edgar Wright movie but seemed to not fit in with the overall formula. I can see how when Marvel was starting out and that Edgar Wright had approached them about Ant-Man, that they were more open to his ideas because they had (theoretically) not planned so far in advanced and created the Marvel aesthetic. That being said the Marvel Aesthetic does exist now and it's a shame that unique directors and films aren't going to be able to mesh into their universe. I understand that the formula works, as time and again they have continued to hit it out of the park (whether people personally like the films or not), but it's a shame we can't see what Ant-Man might have been like. Although I have no doubts Wright's script and storyboards will surface eventually.
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Post by NerdInTheBasement on Dec 3, 2014 10:10:21 GMT -5
The Edgar Wright thing has been fascinating to me, mainly because I get both sides of it. Edgar Wright (who I should note, made one of the most important movies in my life, Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World) wanted to make the movie he thought of in 2005, way before the MCU was even an iota of an idea. When that was compromised, he decided to leave.
The higher ups at Marvel like Kevin Fiege though aren't some soulless monsters. They've given filmmakers like Jon Favreau, Shane Black, Joss Whedon and James Gunn the ability to make movies distinctively their own, and I'm sure they would have loved to do the same with Wright. But over time since 2005, both Marvel and Wright have become very different people and I imagine the separation was essential in order to tell the best story possible.
Until the end of my days I'll wonder how an Ant-Man movie, possibly with Nick Frost and Simon Pegg cameoing, would have worked. But I've learned in this o'l world that when one focuses solely on the what could have been, one can lose sight of what is currently happening. So I'll keep a more than open mind on what Peyton Reeds cooking up, and the fact that Lilly didn't sign on until she was confident in the scripts quality gives me extreme hope. Now, here's hoping she winds up playing The Wasp in there too (Lilly's offhand mention of a costume fitting makes me almost positive she'll become that hero during the film)
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Dec 3, 2014 11:29:14 GMT -5
The higher ups at Marvel like Kevin Fiege though aren't some soulless monsters. No, but I think making their movies interconnective marketable MCU jigsaw pieces is more of a priority than, say, making distinct auteuristic films. That doesn't mean their movies are bad, but it does mean directors will get overruled by TPTB; I think it'll be interesting to see whether or not that's also true for how WB handles their franchise. (For example: del Toro's Justice League Dark. Will that be a thing?)
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Post by NerdInTheBasement on Dec 3, 2014 13:32:17 GMT -5
The higher ups at Marvel like Kevin Fiege though aren't some soulless monsters. No, but I think making their movies interconnective marketable MCU jigsaw pieces is more of a priority than, say, making distinct auteuristic films. That doesn't mean their movies are bad, but it does mean directors will get overruled by TPTB; I think it'll be interesting to see whether or not that's also true for how WB handles their franchise. (For example: del Toro's Justice League Dark. Will that be a thing?) I'm not even sure of that though; in this years Marvels movies for instance, Easter eggs for future movies served the plot, not the other way around (like it did with the messy, but fun Iron Man 2). I'm certain, even positive, they value great films above all else, just like Wright. James Gunn's description of Marvel and Wright being like a marriage gone awry just makes me think it was a conflict specifically between those two, not a larger sign of many higher ups at Marvel favoring world building over creativity.
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Dec 3, 2014 13:38:38 GMT -5
Gunn is hardly going to burn the people giving him work, NerdInTheBasement. He's also more comfortable throwing in the required world-building stuff (which, as I've said elsewhere, I think was the worst part of Guardians.)
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Post by NerdInTheBasement on Dec 3, 2014 14:04:34 GMT -5
Gunn is hardly going to burn the people giving him work, NerdInTheBasement. He's also more comfortable throwing in the required world-building stuff (which, as I've said elsewhere, I think was the worst part of Guardians.) You're totally right about him not wanting to burn the people he works with, though frankly he's a blunt enough person that I think that response does come from a factual place.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2014 15:44:21 GMT -5
Sooooo Suicide Squad casting is weird, but it could be good. I just wonder if Will Smith is willing (HAH) to go Full Deadshot.
I don't think he's ever played a role that kills in cold blood, and he seems like he would be fiercely protective of his on-screen brand.
Also I don't know if Margot Robbie knows what she's gotten herself into. She will need a Blackwater protection detail if she ever goes to Comic-Con.
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Post by flapjackriley on Dec 3, 2014 16:31:49 GMT -5
I'm not sure why I get so overwhelmed when I hear about the DC movies. I guess because I have little expectations for them and it overall could be a potentially huge mess, especially with all these big name actors, but I think Marvel has made me incredibly biased. Which isn't fair to the upcoming DC pictures but they certainly are gonna have to do a lot of work to get those Marvel comparison out of the way.
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Post by NerdInTheBasement on Dec 3, 2014 17:18:48 GMT -5
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Post by NerdInTheBasement on Dec 4, 2014 17:08:40 GMT -5
Krysten Ritter is playing Jessica Jones!!! This is such great casting!! HOORAY!!!! UPDATE: And now Benedict Cumberbatch is Doctor Strange!!! What a glorious day!
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Post by flapjackriley on Dec 4, 2014 22:24:30 GMT -5
Hey. I'm happy Ryan Reynolds is Deadpool finally-for-realz-no-half-assing-it-this-time. I've watched the Deadpool test footage a few times and I think it's very funny.
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Post by Carade on Dec 13, 2014 12:52:48 GMT -5
Apparently if Spiderman joins the MCU they want to do a sort of reboot thing and recast Spiderman.
If so, I think it's high time we have an Asian Peter Parker, also I am a reasonably good actor and I have a lot of free time.
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