Post-Lupin
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Post by Post-Lupin on Aug 11, 2016 13:15:07 GMT -5
The spoiler in the Mr. Robot review headline this week: I could seriously have used that being a fucking surprise.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Aug 11, 2016 13:19:57 GMT -5
The spoiler in the Mr. Robot review headline this week: I could seriously have used that being a fucking surprise. Agreed (and io9 did the same fucking thing). The show is on late enough that I watch it the next night, like a huge number of people probably do, especially since it's been running long every week.
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Invisible Goat
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Post by Invisible Goat on Aug 12, 2016 11:49:49 GMT -5
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dLᵒ
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Post by dLᵒ on Aug 12, 2016 12:07:12 GMT -5
Twitter ... it ... shitty
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Post by Logoboros on Aug 12, 2016 12:33:14 GMT -5
I'm 90% sure I got hit with a malicious bogus Firefox update redirect while browsing the AVC. According to the sources I found online, this thing apparently is connected to "malvertising" injected into normally legitimate ad networks. I did have AdBlock on and Flash disabled, but to no avail it seems.
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ayatollahcm
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Post by ayatollahcm on Aug 12, 2016 14:43:23 GMT -5
I'm 90% sure I got hit with a malicious bogus Firefox update redirect while browsing the AVC. According to the sources I found online, this thing apparently is connected to "malvertising" injected into normally legitimate ad networks. I did have AdBlock on and Flash disabled, but to no avail it seems. That's been happening to me on Chrome on my phone on occasion when I click an article on the site.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Aug 12, 2016 14:52:03 GMT -5
I'm 90% sure I got hit with a malicious bogus Firefox update redirect while browsing the AVC. According to the sources I found online, this thing apparently is connected to "malvertising" injected into normally legitimate ad networks. I did have AdBlock on and Flash disabled, but to no avail it seems. That's been happening to me on Chrome on my phone on occasion when I click an article on the site. I've been having that problem here (not at the AVC), but it's not been as frequent lately.
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Post by Logoboros on Aug 12, 2016 14:57:17 GMT -5
I've been having that problem here (not at the AVC), but it's not been as frequent lately. It happened to me here once as well -- and really freaked me out since I've avoided any kind of virus infection for well over a decade now. But it appears not to be an infection; it's compromised code in the ads served up by the websites themselves, as I've been led to understand. But I know AVC was the only browser tab I had open when it happened most recently.
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Post-Lupin
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Post by Post-Lupin on Aug 12, 2016 18:06:01 GMT -5
How are we feeling about the Brave New World/Two White Guys thing?
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Post by Meth Lab Shenanigans on Aug 13, 2016 22:39:59 GMT -5
I always shake my head when people talk about how great the comments used to be, maaaan. There's a reason I didn't participate until 2012. I always thought 2012-2014 was the Golden Era. I figure that's what people are usually referring to when they say the comments used to be great.
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Post by ganews on Aug 15, 2016 12:11:37 GMT -5
The comments are closed and disappeared from that sponsored article today, although it is on the sidebar as one of the most-read. I was in training all morning; did anyone see a shitshow?
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Aug 15, 2016 12:16:54 GMT -5
The comments are closed and disappeared from that sponsored article today, although it is on the sidebar as one of the most-read. I was in training all morning; did anyone see a shitshow? Were there comments there to begin with? They often don't allow them in the first place on sponsored articles.
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Post-Lupin
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Post by Post-Lupin on Aug 15, 2016 13:48:01 GMT -5
...and now the page is blank when you click on the link.
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ayatollahcm
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Post by ayatollahcm on Aug 15, 2016 14:07:40 GMT -5
...and now the page is blank when you click on the link. It's the A.V. Club's Langoliers.
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Post by firstbasemanwho on Aug 16, 2016 18:11:21 GMT -5
I always shake my head when people talk about how great the comments used to be, maaaan. There's a reason I didn't participate until 2012. I always thought 2012-2014 was the Golden Era. I figure that's what people are usually referring to when they say the comments used to be great. Yeah, 2011 - 2013/2014 after registration but before nuDisqus seems about right. I'll admit that the nostalgia I have for the unregistered days is due to how great The A.V. Club was circa 2007-2012. It just felt like this cool little website with a strong editorial voice staffed by like-minded people who enjoyed pop culture with some Gen X sarcasm thrown in for good measure. Although, admittedly, I feel like I've gotten a lot more neurotic and sensitive about things (I've been going through some things) over the past year so a lot of my unhappiness could be on me.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Aug 16, 2016 18:52:38 GMT -5
I always thought 2012-2014 was the Golden Era. I figure that's what people are usually referring to when they say the comments used to be great. Yeah, 2011 - 2013/2014 after registration but before nuDisqus seems about right. I'll admit that the nostalgia I have for the unregistered days is due to how great The A.V. Club was circa 2007-2012. It just felt like this cool little website with a strong editorial voice staffed by like-minded people who enjoyed pop culture with some Gen X sarcasm thrown in for good measure. Although, admittedly, I feel like I've gotten a lot more neurotic and sensitive about things (I've been going through some things) over the past year so a lot of my unhappiness could be on me. I blame the millennials for the decline of the site. I'm only sort of kidding.
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ayatollahcm
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Post by ayatollahcm on Aug 16, 2016 19:25:02 GMT -5
Even the Wild West used asphalt to pave its roads.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Aug 16, 2016 20:46:49 GMT -5
So Univision bought Gawker...
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Post by ganews on Aug 16, 2016 20:54:05 GMT -5
So Univision bought Gawker... I'm not sure which is worse: AVC regulars complaining about an influx of people, or actual people from other commenting communities. I never read Gawker, so I have no idea how good or bad their commenters are.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Aug 16, 2016 20:56:12 GMT -5
So Univision bought Gawker... I'm not sure which is worse: AVC regulars complaining about an influx of people, or actual people from other commenting communities. I never read Gawker, so I have no idea how good or bad their commenters are. There are more trolls and shitposters over there, and their comment system is atrocious. That said, I like some of the sub-blogs (mainly io9 and Deadspin). I think the main fear is that the AV Club will get folded into that umbrella, or that Kinja (which is much worse than Disqus) will get forced on the AVC.
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Post by Dr. Rumak on Aug 17, 2016 12:51:36 GMT -5
I posted about a book in the Reasonable Discussions article in the "What are you reading thread?" Someone asked me a question. I cannot respond directly in the notification, because I don't have an actual Disqus account. If I go back into the article itself, I don't see all the comments, including my original comment and the reply the user made. There is no way for me to answer the question.
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GumTurkeyles
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Post by GumTurkeyles on Aug 17, 2016 13:32:28 GMT -5
I posted about a book in the Reasonable Discussions article in the "What are you reading thread?" Someone asked me a question. I cannot respond directly in the notification, because I don't have an actual Disqus account. If I go back into the article itself, I don't see all the comments, including my original comment and the reply the user made. There is no way for me to answer the question. In regards to replying via the notification panel... yeah, that happened a few weeks ago, and it's really annoying. In regards to Disqus being stupid... give it a few hours, then the comments will appear normally. It's doing the thing where it doesn't load all the comments while being overworked. I usually participate in the first hour, then revisit 4 hours later, then the next day. In regards to what you're reading... what are you reading?
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Post by Dr. Rumak on Aug 17, 2016 13:50:15 GMT -5
In regards to what you're reading... what are you reading? The Seventh Sense by Joshua Cooper Ramo. Essentially about how modern technology of networking (all our devices being connected) is changing things. Only, I'm not convinced that some of the things he attributes to this phenomenon is not simply a post ex facto fallacy. It remains to be seen whether I even finish the book.
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Post by Meth Lab Shenanigans on Aug 17, 2016 21:37:55 GMT -5
Yeah, 2011 - 2013/2014 after registration but before nuDisqus seems about right. I'll admit that the nostalgia I have for the unregistered days is due to how great The A.V. Club was circa 2007-2012. It just felt like this cool little website with a strong editorial voice staffed by like-minded people who enjoyed pop culture with some Gen X sarcasm thrown in for good measure. Although, admittedly, I feel like I've gotten a lot more neurotic and sensitive about things (I've been going through some things) over the past year so a lot of my unhappiness could be on me. I blame the millennials for the decline of the site. I'm only sort of kidding. I think it went from an unusual Gen X site to an average millennial one, and it's the average part that's the problem. The Onion got a brilliant millennial successor with Clickhole, but the AV Club is sort of stuck halfway - it wants a younger audience but now lacks a lot of the quirkiness that drew the older users in in the first place, so it fails to get that younger audience because they weren't there for when the site was great and unique. Young pop culture nerds will just seek out a subreddit for whatever they're into instead, because the modern AVC doesn't really offer anything better. It used to. But now it doesn't. (It probably doesn't help that the commentariat is regularly and loudly disdainful of most music that young people like, but I digress.)
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Aug 17, 2016 22:54:43 GMT -5
I posted about a book in the Reasonable Discussions article in the "What are you reading thread?" Someone asked me a question. I cannot respond directly in the notification, because I don't have an actual Disqus account. If I go back into the article itself, I don't see all the comments, including my original comment and the reply the user made. There is no way for me to answer the question. It did that to me today too, and because I'm ridiculous I felt guilty because I couldn't reply to people offering me congrats quickly enough!
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Post by Dr. Rumak on Aug 18, 2016 5:00:23 GMT -5
In regards to Disqus being stupid... give it a few hours, then the comments will appear normally. It's doing the thing where it doesn't load all the comments while being overworked. I usually participate in the first hour, then revisit 4 hours later, then the next day. This is exactly it. When I go back now, all the comments load (or at least way more than were loading before. Since the switch to NuDisqus, I always assumed it was the number of comments that were problem, and had stopped going back later once the article started having problems. Guess I misdiagnosed the issue. Some doctor I am.
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Post-Lupin
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Post by Post-Lupin on Aug 18, 2016 8:36:55 GMT -5
I blame the millennials for the decline of the site. I'm only sort of kidding. I think it went from an unusual Gen X site to an average millennial one, and it's the average part that's the problem. The Onion got a brilliant millennial successor with Clickhole, but the AV Club is sort of stuck halfway - it wants a younger audience but now lacks a lot of the quirkiness that drew the older users in in the first place, so it fails to get that younger audience because they weren't there for when the site was great and unique. Young pop culture nerds will just seek out a subreddit for whatever they're into instead, because the modern AVC doesn't really offer anything better. It used to. But now it doesn't. (It probably doesn't help that the commentariat is regularly and loudly disdainful of most music that young people like, but I digress.) *Pauses listening to Joey Bada$$* We are??
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Post by pairesta on Aug 18, 2016 9:30:37 GMT -5
I posted about a book in the Reasonable Discussions article in the "What are you reading thread?" Someone asked me a question. I cannot respond directly in the notification, because I don't have an actual Disqus account. If I go back into the article itself, I don't see all the comments, including my original comment and the reply the user made. There is no way for me to answer the question. I've seriously felt bad lately because I'll get a notification of a response, read it in the notification window, but can't respond or even upvote it because I'm still running an AV account and I'll give it up when they pry it from my dead cold hands. But my only recourse is to go back to the original thread, sift through possibly hundreds of comments to get to it, and then reply or upvote, and fuck that.
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Post by Bedroom Pastrami on Aug 18, 2016 9:40:46 GMT -5
(It probably doesn't help that the commentariat is regularly and loudly disdainful of most music that young people like, but I digress.) This actually played a pretty big part of me leaving. 95% of the comments on articles about music (particularly those in the morning) have nothing to do with the music but are bitching about hipsters or something. Then people complain about the lack of music content. HM I WONDER WHY.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Aug 18, 2016 9:50:34 GMT -5
I think it went from an unusual Gen X site to an average millennial one, and it's the average part that's the problem. The Onion got a brilliant millennial successor with Clickhole, but the AV Club is sort of stuck halfway - it wants a younger audience but now lacks a lot of the quirkiness that drew the older users in in the first place, so it fails to get that younger audience because they weren't there for when the site was great and unique. Young pop culture nerds will just seek out a subreddit for whatever they're into instead, because the modern AVC doesn't really offer anything better. It used to. But now it doesn't. (It probably doesn't help that the commentariat is regularly and loudly disdainful of most music that young people like, but I digress.) *Pauses listening to Joey Bada$$* We are?? The guy on Mr. Robot is a musician of some sort?
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