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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 23:35:52 GMT -5
The Office has become underrated. Thanks to the michael-less years people seem to forget just how good seasons 2 through 5 were. Seasons 6 and 7 were a bit more inconsistent, but the highs were still pretty high. It is weird how kind of forgotten The Office is already. I can see why, it really did become a terrible show. It had me wanting them to break up Jim and Pam with their stupid ass storyline. |
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Post by Ben Grimm on Sept 27, 2017 8:16:36 GMT -5
The Office has become underrated. Thanks to the michael-less years people seem to forget just how good seasons 2 through 5 were. Seasons 6 and 7 were a bit more inconsistent, but the highs were still pretty high. It is weird how kind of forgotten The Office is already. I think a few bad seasons at the end of a show's run can do a ton of damage to a show's legacy. It's happened with a few shows that were huge critical darlings at one point. I think part of the reason Parks and Rec and 30 Rock are remembered so much more fondly now is that they both had really strong final seasons. |
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Post by monodrone on Sept 29, 2017 6:21:30 GMT -5
Since this is Unpopular TV Opinions, I will say this: I thought the last few seasons of The Office were, while not up to the lofty standards set in the early days, pretty good and I laughed at many of the jokes within those episodes.
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Post by rainbowsherbert on Oct 1, 2017 17:38:08 GMT -5
I don't know if this is necessarily unpopular or if this is the prevailing opinion at the moment, but I'm not really enjoying the new season of Broad City. Something's...off about it, but I've yet to figure out what exactly it is.
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Post by MyNameIsNoneOfYourGoddamnBusin on Oct 6, 2017 16:07:36 GMT -5
Going through a mostly random order full watch of the Simpsons and there actually have been some pretty good episodes post-2002 or whenever you choose to prefer it stopped running (I put the nadir around 2006 or 2007 and think that while it's not written like 1997 anymore, not everything in the past ten years has been dreadful.
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Oct 10, 2017 0:28:18 GMT -5
Off the back of the X-Files episode about the killer AI: I actually really love the "computers can do anything and/or are evil" tropes that show up in a lot of 80's/90's television, and in some ways prefer it to the "harder" honestly-pretty-racist first wave of cyberpunk.
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Post by MarkInTexas on Oct 19, 2017 10:25:34 GMT -5
I watched my first episode of Rick & Morty last night.
I had pretty much the same reaction I have every time I watch American Dad, namely "What, exactly, am I not getting here?"
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Post by The Spice Weasel on Oct 19, 2017 11:25:25 GMT -5
I watched my first episode of Rick & Morty last night. I had pretty much the same reaction I have every time I watch American Dad, namely "What, exactly, am I not getting here?" Most cartoons took me multiple attempts to get into. Futurama, Venture Brothers, Bob's Burgers, American Dad, Aqua Teen, Rick & Morty just to name a few. All took two or three attempts. It was just a matter of seeing the right joke/right episode to finally get what they were going for. |
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Post by dwarfoscar on Oct 19, 2017 11:57:55 GMT -5
I watched my first episode of Rick & Morty last night. I had pretty much the same reaction I have every time I watch American Dad, namely "What, exactly, am I not getting here?" Most cartoons took me multiple attempts to get into. Futurama, Venture Brothers, Bob's Burgers, American Dad, Aqua Teen, Rick & Morty just to name a few. All took two or three attempts. It was just a matter of seeing the right joke/right episode to finally get what they were going for. The episode that made me understand Rick and Morty's potential was 'Lawnmower Dog' (s01e02). The episode that cemented the series, for me, as the best animated show currently on air is 'Meeseeks & Destroy' (s01e05). I really need to give Venture Bros a second try. |
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Post by Ben Grimm on Oct 19, 2017 12:28:46 GMT -5
I watched my first episode of Rick & Morty last night. I had pretty much the same reaction I have every time I watch American Dad, namely "What, exactly, am I not getting here?" If it was the pilot, the answer is nothing. It's not very good. The second episode is much better. |
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Post by Celebith on Oct 19, 2017 16:02:10 GMT -5
I watched my first episode of Rick & Morty last night. I had pretty much the same reaction I have every time I watch American Dad, namely "What, exactly, am I not getting here?" I mostly liked it from the start, but I think it really gelled for me with Rick Potion #9 / Rixty Minutes - it's the first time they really add continuity, and the change in tone towards the end give the show more 'heart'. |
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Post by MyNameIsNoneOfYourGoddamnBusin on Oct 21, 2017 19:48:34 GMT -5
I watched my first episode of Rick & Morty last night. I had pretty much the same reaction I have every time I watch American Dad, namely "What, exactly, am I not getting here?" A girlfriend made me watch one once the week we lived together. She later admitted it was not the best episode to get someone into it, but really thought I would enjoy it rather than staring straight-faced and waiting for it to end. I was actually pretty offended it was something she thought I would find funny. She put on a Mystery Science Theatre 3000 after that and all was forgiven. |
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Post by Celebith on Oct 30, 2017 0:16:09 GMT -5
I watched my first episode of Rick & Morty last night. I had pretty much the same reaction I have every time I watch American Dad, namely "What, exactly, am I not getting here?" A girlfriend made me watch one once the week we lived together. She later admitted it was not the best episode to get someone into it, but really thought I would enjoy it rather than staring straight-faced and waiting for it to end. I was actually pretty offended it was something she thought I would find funny. She put on a Mystery Science Theatre 3000 after that and all was forgiven. MST3K is one of those things that I understand is supposed to be funny, but I mostly find it useful as a sleep aid. The filler stuff before they get to the movie is generally amusing in a public access TV sorta way, and then it's just sorta  Maybe it's better with a group, though - so much comedy is. |
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Post by WKRP Jimmy Drop on Jun 25, 2018 21:49:44 GMT -5
I don’t mind Mark Brendanawicz.
Tom Haverford is only good as support & I never really cared if he got his own storylines. I hated him so much in the first couple of seasons.
They are funny, but I don’t actually like it when Jean-Ralphio & Mona Lisa are around.
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Post by Jean-Luc Lemur on Jun 29, 2018 18:20:23 GMT -5
She put on a Mystery Science Theatre 3000 after that and all was forgiven. MST3K is one of those things that I understand is supposed to be funny, but I mostly find it useful as a sleep aid. [/quote] I can use it as both, though it also depends on the episode (also the revival season came out when I was just out of surgery, so I watched much of it while super-high). A new selection came on Netflix and I fell asleep while watching Devil Fish. [Twenty-year old TV spoilers for a forty year-old movie bad follow] I thought I dreamed the titular monster because I’d just been to the Field Museum, where they have a giant Dunkleosteus head on display. I then watched the rest awake and…huh, that was the monster, albeit with tentacles. Guess I wasn’t as asleep as I though, and really a weird thing to have swimming in and out of your subconscious, though not a particularly frightening one. |
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Post by Angry Raisins on Jun 30, 2018 12:36:15 GMT -5
The series went downhill afterwards, but Twin Peaks was still right to reveal Laura Palmer's killer. Trying to stick to a status quo with a wheel-spinning "investigation" that never ended would have become annoying quite quickly.
S1 of Community is one of the best seasons, aside from having a terrible finale. Britta and Pierce in particular are better than their more caricatured later versions.
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Post by Celebith on Jul 6, 2018 13:11:45 GMT -5
The series went downhill afterwards, but Twin Peaks was still right to reveal Laura Palmer's killer. Trying to stick to a status quo with a wheel-spinning "investigation" that never ended would have become annoying quite quickly. Maybe, but I think Lynch and Frost have said that, aside from a hook to hang a bunch of weirdness on, the show wasn't about the mystery but how the town handled its grief, including how they dealt with never getting any resolution. The reveal episode was pretty powerful, though, and probably a good trade for how bad so much of season 2 was. It's like they concentrated all the quality into that episode. |
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Jul 9, 2018 17:20:13 GMT -5
Sandra Oh's greatness is not enough to distract from the rest of the cynical queerbait that is Killing Eve.
Do @ me.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Jul 9, 2018 23:21:28 GMT -5
Sandra Oh's greatness is not enough to distract from the rest of the cynical queerbait that is Killing Eve. Do @ me., What is the premise of Killing Eve? Also, who is Sandra Oh? |
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Post by Floyd Diabolical Barber on Jul 23, 2018 1:10:36 GMT -5
"Mom"
I watch very little network TV, except what we get on Hulu, so I'm not familiar with many of the shows talked about here. What I do get to watch is often a year late. I am listing this as an unpopular opinion simply because I never hear about anybody talking about this amazing show, but I think "Mom" may be the best live-action show on TV these days. I basically binge watched it over the last few months, having never seen an episode before. I came for the white-trash comedy, and there is tons of it, and it's wonderful, but over the first couple of seasons, I got totally sucked in by the absolutely amazing character development. The writing and acting on this show is top notch. Every character is nuanced to the point of near reality, and every actor nails their character.
Maybe I'm biased because I've spent time around a lot of alcoholics, petty criminals, and general fuckups for a fair percentage of my life (not my folks, though, they were pretty damn good people, all in all), but I sincerely love this show. It nails so much of the reality of an underrepresented subgroup of the population that it's sometimes scary. It tells why they grew up like they did, and it treats them like complicated adults.
Nobody is a saint (not even Marjorie). Everybody is seriously flawed, but most of the core characters are truly struggling, sometimes succeeding, and sometimes failing hilariously, to become better people. Everyone evolves in believable ways. Some get better. Some get worse. Most have times of progress, and times of relapse. Things happen, and there are consequences, good and bad.
The thing that amazes me about "Mom" is that in addition to making me laugh until I couldn't catch my breath many times, it has moments of real heartfelt seriousness. There are some devastating gut punch moments, and they are all earned. The characters' reactions are as true to life as anything on the grimmest drama, and yet still the series is not a bummer.
It's a wonderfully funny, sometimes uplifting, occasionally heart-wrenching show about a bunch of lifelong losers, who are struggling to better themselves. I can't recommend it highly enough.
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Post by kitchin on Jul 31, 2018 20:12:47 GMT -5
Since this is Unpopular TV Opinions, I will say this: I thought the last few seasons of The Office were, while not up to the lofty standards set in the early days, pretty good and I laughed at many of the jokes within those episodes. I liked the unpopular Niagara wedding. I didn't like any of the new bosses except Kathy Bates and Zach Woods.
Granted the Niagara wedding would have been made better by a grim bitter married couple reliving their honeymoon, like in the Marilyn Monroe movie with Joseph Cotten. (Whoops, that's not exactly the plot of the movie.)
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Post by Prole Hole on Sept 26, 2018 5:20:59 GMT -5
Iron Fist Season 2 is just as crap as Iron Fist Season 1. Lots of people seem to think it's improved but it's Just. So. Dull. Finn Jones is OK when Danny's a second-tier character, and he worked infinitely better as a comic side-kick in The Defenders, but he just cannot anchor his own show. He's wooden, bland and incredibly difficult to care about (his haircut's an improvement this time out though). None of what happens is remotely engaging, the fights are only slightly improved from Season 1's missed-by-a-mile contacts, and Sacha Dhawan is miscast as well - he's nearly right, but he doesn't have much in the way of screen presence and the character just comes across as petulant rather than anything else. The Orientalism remains as uncomfortable as always - because of course the white guy is better at all that Asian stuff than any actual Asian character! - and the world-building that Jessica Jones, Luke Cage and Daredevil manage so well just feels absent here. Those shows may have a few flaws but they actually take place place in locations that feel real (despite Daredevil's perception of Hell's Kitchen as a sprawling urban metropolis rather than about six blocks) whereas in Iron Fist the locations just feel like an completely arbitrary selection of streets a lazy location scout found then quit for an early lunch I made it through three episodes, started the fourth then gave up. Life's too short.
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Post by kitchin on Sept 26, 2018 8:21:55 GMT -5
Iron Fist Season 2 is just as crap as Iron Fist Season 1. The Colleen character has a decent sense of humor, but she's as dull as he is when it comes down to it. As for Ivanka and Don Trump, Jr., sure they may be the best characters, but do make my skin crawl a bit. Since I only made it through season one and the first half of the first episode of season two, you can discount my opinion. Opening season two with the gooey romance between Danny & Colleen - change the channel! |
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Post by Hachiman on Sept 26, 2018 21:18:55 GMT -5
Iron Fist Season 2 is just as crap as Iron Fist Season 1. Lots of people seem to think it's improved but it's Just. So. Dull. Finn Jones is OK when Danny's a second-tier character, and he worked infinitely better as a comic side-kick in The Defenders, but he just cannot anchor his own show. He's wooden, bland and incredibly difficult to care about (his haircut's an improvement this time out though). None of what happens is remotely engaging, the fights are only slightly improved from Season 1's missed-by-a-mile contacts, and Sacha Dhawan is miscast as well - he's nearly right, but he doesn't have much in the way of screen presence and the character just comes across as petulant rather than anything else. The Orientalism remains as uncomfortable as always - because of course the white guy is better at all that Asian stuff than any actual Asian character! - and the world-building that Jessica Jones, Luke Cage and Daredevil manage so well just feels absent here. Those shows may have a few flaws but they actually take place place in locations that feel real (despite Daredevil's perception of Hell's Kitchen as a sprawling urban metropolis rather than about six blocks) whereas in Iron Fist the locations just feel like an completely arbitrary selection of streets a lazy location scout found then quit for an early lunch I made it through three episodes, started the fourth then gave up. Life's too short. They really needed to either heavily lean into the fantasy elements inherent to Iron Fist or the Martial Arts elements. A show about a guy whose powers boil down to magic-assisted kung fu should not be this flat. This is especially frustrating since the first season of Daredevil did a really good job of establishing a larger world and secret war that Stick was fighting, all for it to be pissed away by Iron First Season 1 and the Defenders essentially going, "nope. turns out it wasn't that many people! Like maybe 30 or 40, tops. I guess Stick was traveling the world, having spiritual facetimes, and training blind boys to pad his expense account or something" Here's an idea: They could have had the series dealing with weird stuff coming from the dimension of Kun Lun and Danny having to dispatch some Ninjas, flamboyant fighter or monster that keeps tracking him to NY and the season could have been about closing up the gate and stranding him in NY. Kind of a knock-off Doctor Strange. I'd watch that. |
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Jan 7, 2019 18:43:44 GMT -5
Bob's Burgers kinda sucks at everything except as a delivery vehicle for the occasional transcendent musical number ("Electric Love," the Die Hard musical, et cetera).
I think it's usually less funny and even less heartwarming than modern Simpsons. I can't confirm, but I suspect it's probably less funny than Family Guy too.
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Post by Angry Raisins on Jan 9, 2019 17:58:28 GMT -5
Obviously The Wire is great (ok, S5 a bit less so). But what is not great is that scene where Bunk and McNulty investigate a crime scene for several minutes using only the word "Fuck". Feels extremely forced and gimmicky, and just there to be talked about by overexcited gushing reviewers.
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Post by Roy Batty's Pet Dove on Jan 9, 2019 20:15:37 GMT -5
Bob's Burgers kinda sucks at everything except as a delivery vehicle for the occasional transcendent musical number ("Electric Love," the Die Hard musical, et cetera). I think it's usually less funny and even less heartwarming than modern Simpsons. I can't confirm, but I suspect it's probably less funny than Family Guy too. Theoretically, you probably could confirm that it's less funny than Family Guy, but you just choose not to. |
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Jan 9, 2019 21:18:56 GMT -5
Bob's Burgers kinda sucks at everything except as a delivery vehicle for the occasional transcendent musical number ("Electric Love," the Die Hard musical, et cetera). I think it's usually less funny and even less heartwarming than modern Simpsons. I can't confirm, but I suspect it's probably less funny than Family Guy too. Theoretically, you probably could confirm that it's less funny than Family Guy, but you just choose not to. Yes, this is true. Additional Bob's Burgers opinion: Teddy is the absolute worst and killing him off is the best thing that could happen to the show. |
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Post by Hachiman on Jan 10, 2019 2:17:54 GMT -5
Theoretically, you probably could confirm that it's less funny than Family Guy, but you just choose not to. Yes, this is true. Additional Bob's Burgers opinion: Teddy is the absolute worst and killing him off is the best thing that could happen to the show. Yeah, anxious and/or clueless characters are really repellent to me so I tend to give Teddy episodes a hard pass. Same for any of Telly Monsters segments on Sesame Street. |
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Post by patbat on Jan 23, 2019 12:38:58 GMT -5
I've enjoyed all of The Good Place so far, but I'm not at all excited about there being a 4th season. I felt like Season 3 was gradually drawing towards a satisfying and natural place to end the story, but the last episode has me worried (starting the whole experiment over, the return of annoying-ass Derek, setting up a Derek-Janet-Jason love triangle I couldn't care less about). I would really hate to see this show become the new How I Met Your Mother and keep going long past the point where it had anything to say, so I hope they land the plane pretty soon.
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