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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 13:31:12 GMT -5
The Office has become underrated. Thanks to the michael-less years people seem to forget just how good seasons 2 through 5 were. Seasons 6 and 7 were a bit more inconsistent, but the highs were still pretty high. It is weird how kind of forgotten The Office is already. Hilarious how this has turned around, mostly thanks to Memes. |
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on May 6, 2019 22:26:04 GMT -5
Crazy Ex-Girlfriend really fucked up the landing. Basically everything about how that show ended was bad.
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Post by Hachiman on May 26, 2019 20:27:45 GMT -5
Considering how many beloved shows of mine have messed up their endings or cancelled midway, I am starting to think that its not even worth it to follow a show from the beginning. Just wait until the final episode has aired and then decide whether it is worth it to invest the time to watch it.
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Post by Nudeviking on May 30, 2019 19:52:39 GMT -5
Considering how many beloved shows of mine have messed up their endings or cancelled midway, I am starting to think that its not even worth it to follow a show from the beginning. Just wait until the final episode has aired and then decide whether it is worth it to invest the time to watch it. It's either that or avoiding the sunk cost fallacy and abandoning shows when they start to suck. |
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Post by Hachiman on May 30, 2019 20:59:34 GMT -5
Considering how many beloved shows of mine have messed up their endings or cancelled midway, I am starting to think that its not even worth it to follow a show from the beginning. Just wait until the final episode has aired and then decide whether it is worth it to invest the time to watch it. It's either that or avoiding the sunk cost fallacy and abandoning shows when they start to suck. Yeah, but its not always easy to tell. The shows that I wasted the most time on generally start sucking near their last season. If shows were less serialized, it wouldn't bother me as much, but in this age of heavily serialization its actually annoying to start a show and follow along for years only to drop it later. |
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Post by Nudeviking on May 30, 2019 21:02:00 GMT -5
It's either that or avoiding the sunk cost fallacy and abandoning shows when they start to suck. Yeah, but its not always easy to tell. The shows that I wasted the most time on generally start sucking near their last season. If shows were less serialized, it wouldn't bother me as much, but in this age of heavily serialization its actually annoying to start a show and follow along for years only to drop it later. I, too, agree that 100% serialization is one of the worst things to happen to TV in these, our modern days. |
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Post by Dr. Rumak on Jun 8, 2019 19:28:36 GMT -5
I've enjoyed all of The Good Place so far, but I'm not at all excited about there being a 4th season. I felt like Season 3 was gradually drawing towards a satisfying and natural place to end the story, but the last episode has me worried (starting the whole experiment over, the return of annoying-ass Derek, setting up a Derek-Janet-Jason love triangle I couldn't care less about). I would really hate to see this show become the new How I Met Your Mother and keep going long past the point where it had anything to say, so I hope they land the plane pretty soon. Somewhat good news, then. The Good Place Will End After Its Fourth Season |
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Post by Albert Fish Taco on Jun 21, 2019 11:40:31 GMT -5
It's either that or avoiding the sunk cost fallacy and abandoning shows when they start to suck. Yeah, but its not always easy to tell. The shows that I wasted the most time on generally start sucking near their last season. If shows were less serialized, it wouldn't bother me as much, but in this age of heavily serialization its actually annoying to start a show and follow along for yearsΒ only to drop it later.Β Iβve had this happen with Brooklyn 99. I didnβt stop watching so much as Iβm not around watching tv as it airs as much as I used to. I assumed itβll be on Netflix or Prime eventually so I can jump back in and/or get the GF into it at some point but itβs unfortunately a Hulu property and now Iβm a good 2.5 seasons behind. |
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Post by Prole Hole on Jun 23, 2019 7:57:31 GMT -5
I'm pretty much done with Matt Berry. He's got one thing, and one thing only. It's quite funny the first time you see it. Then you realise that's it. He's fine in (the massively overrated) Garth Maranghi's Darkplace. Then it's the same in The IT Crowd. And Toast Of London. And What We Do In The Shadows. And so on. It's just so boring to watch, and long ago crossed the line from "mildly amusing" to "insufferable" (which is also how I'd describe What We Do In The Shadows - smug, preening, self-important and insufferable). There may well be good performances left in him, but he needs to badly break away from "that one thing" and find something - anything - else to do.
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Post by Dellarigg on Jun 23, 2019 11:28:57 GMT -5
I'm pretty much done with Matt Berry. He's got one thing, and one thing only. It's quite funny the first time you see it. Then you realise that's it. He's fine in (the massively overrated) Garth Maranghi's Darkplace. Then it's the same in The IT Crowd. And Toast Of London. And What We Do In The Shadows. And so on. It's just so boring to watch, and long ago crossed the line from "mildly amusing" to "insufferable" (which is also how I'd describe What We Do In The Shadows - smug, preening, self-important and insufferable). There may well be good performances left in him, but he needs to badly break away from "that one thing" and find something - anything - else to do. Once, I had some friends from Uni days visiting, and we piled in late one night and watched the first 4 episodes of Garth Marenghi. We laughed a fair bit. In the morning, we watched the last 2 and didn't laugh at all. Either there'd been a huge drop-off in quality or we'd been pissed the night before. It was, I'm sure, the latter. Matt Berry is also a dull guest on podcasts. |
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Post by Buon Funerale Amigos on Jun 23, 2019 19:08:40 GMT -5
Matt Berry is the UK equivalent of Danny McBride. They're never an actual character, just varying amplifications of themselves.
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Post by William T. Goat, Esq. on Jun 29, 2019 19:11:20 GMT -5
I'm pretty much done with Matt Berry. He's got one thing, and one thing only. It's quite funny the first time you see it. Then you realise that's it. He's fine in (the massively overrated) Garth Maranghi's Darkplace. Then it's the same in The IT Crowd. And Toast Of London. And What We Do In The Shadows. And so on. It's just so boring to watch, and long ago crossed the line from "mildly amusing" to "insufferable" (which is also how I'd describe What We Do In The Shadows - smug, preening, self-important and insufferable). There may well be good performances left in him, but he needs to badly break away from "that one thing" and find something - anything - else to do. How do you feel about Brian Blessed? |
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Post by Prole Hole on Jun 30, 2019 4:10:33 GMT -5
I'm pretty much done with Matt Berry. He's got one thing, and one thing only. It's quite funny the first time you see it. Then you realise that's it. He's fine in (the massively overrated) Garth Maranghi's Darkplace. Then it's the same in The IT Crowd. And Toast Of London. And What We Do In The Shadows. And so on. It's just so boring to watch, and long ago crossed the line from "mildly amusing" to "insufferable" (which is also how I'd describe What We Do In The Shadows - smug, preening, self-important and insufferable). There may well be good performances left in him, but he needs to badly break away from "that one thing" and find something - anything - else to do. How do you feel about Brian Blessed? I'm fine with Brian Blessed. He's ended up Doing That One Thing Brian Blessed does at the tail end of his career, but he doesn't really act any more does he? He just presents things from time to time. But he has been a brilliant actor - he's an absolute revelation in something like I, Claudius, and I knew him for decades in Z Cars where he was very well regarded. Post Flash Gordon, yes, he mostly shouts a lot, but he's had a lot of variety in his career and is genuinely a gifted performer. Also - he's rarely about these days, whereas Matt Berry feels somewhat ubiquitous (I'm trying to avoid saying "over-exposed"). It's a lot easier to be tolerant of someone when you only see them on screen once or twice every other year. Maybe Berry can have a Blessed career in reverse - start off doing That One Thing then do interesting things later on, and I certainly hope so. Honestly I like Berry and I want to see him do better, but that's not where we are now. |
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Post by Celebith on Jul 14, 2019 20:02:04 GMT -5
Matt Berry is the UK equivalent of Danny McBride. They're never an actual character, just varying amplifications of themselves. Danny McBride is only good in dramatic roles. He was pretty solid in 'Up In The Air', but I'd rather get deployed again than watch Eastbound and Down. |
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Post by Hachiman on Sept 5, 2019 1:02:43 GMT -5
"Samurai Champloo" is better than "Cowboy Bebop"
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Post by LazBro on Sept 6, 2019 7:30:37 GMT -5
Among the people I knew at the time, Cowboy Bebop was one of the big 3 of starter anime series, along with Trigun and of course Neon Genesis Evangelion. It has always made me mad though, because all my friends were super into Bebop while I was more of a Trigun guy (and I'd still rank it among my favorite anime series).
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Post by WKRP Jimmy Drop on Nov 18, 2019 23:34:02 GMT -5
Danny Castelano should have been a supporting character only. He was a terrible, terrible match for Mindy Lahiri, and they were just an awful couple. And I really do not understand the swooning over Chris Messina. He's just New York Italian boring.
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Post by WKRP Jimmy Drop on Feb 24, 2020 21:24:03 GMT -5
I donβt mind commercials while watching streaming TV shows.
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Post by Mr. Greene's October Surprise on Feb 25, 2020 1:37:41 GMT -5
TV movies aren't as good as they used to be.
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Post by The Stuffingtacular She-Hulk on Mar 12, 2020 15:37:17 GMT -5
Better Call Saul is more interesting, nuanced, and better-written than Breaking Bad ever was. To me, there's something infinitely more tragic about a con man trying to do right, failing miserably, never living up to his family's expectations/being shut out by his family, and then deciding "fuck it, I'm all in" than a shitty, mean chemistry teacher becoming even more of a megalomaniac.
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Post by Superb Owl π¦ on Mar 12, 2020 16:18:13 GMT -5
Danny Castelano should have been a supporting character only. He was a terrible, terrible match for Mindy Lahiri, and they were just an awful couple. And I really do not understand the swooning over Chris Messina. He's just New York Italian boring.
It's weird that for as supposedly influenced by classic rom-coms as Kahling is, the romance end of her projects are EASILY the weakest parts. They did mostly steer into it over time, but if Mindy Project had started out as purely a workplace sitcom, it would have been much better. I liked Messina on the show though, even if you're correct that they were an awful couple. |
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Post by haysoos on Mar 30, 2020 9:39:09 GMT -5
Better Call Saul is more interesting, nuanced, and better-written than Breaking Bad ever was. To me, there's something infinitely more tragic about a con man trying to do right, failing miserably, never living up to his family's expectations/being shut out by his family, and then deciding "fuck it, I'm all in" than a shitty, mean chemistry teacher becoming even more of a megalomaniac. I am absolutely dreading finding out what fate awaits my beloved Kim Wexler, but know that ultimately she's probably going to have a hand in whatever that fate is. It's beautifully agonizing. Also Howard Hamlin is possibly one of the best written characters on any show. On any other show, he'd just be a cartoon villain, but here he's a cocky, arrogant, self-centered dick who got his position and wealth through nepotism, who is actually sort of kind, and tries to play fair, and just wants everyone to be happy. |
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Post by WKRP Jimmy Drop on Jun 9, 2020 21:11:08 GMT -5
Yeah, it doesn't bother me when someone walks into a bar and orders "Beer" or uses other generic wording to order a product.
There was a period in American TV where they went to ridiculous lengths to avoid anything that could be construed as product placement, and you'd literally see Dan Connor with a white can labeled BEER. It was hilarious to take it to that visual extreme, but it never really bothered me all that much.
Additionally, I don't give a shit if the camera gives an extra second to show the character using a Dell or a Windows phone or driving a Toyota or whatever. Now if it lingers much longer, then it stands the danger of screaming HEY LOOK AT THE ITEM, but eh I just don't care if it's a glance.
Although I think it's more fun when they use fake brands, Morley Cigarettes & the like.
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Post by Angry Raisins on Jun 10, 2020 12:53:56 GMT -5
Better Call Saul is more interesting, nuanced, and better-written than Breaking Bad ever was. To me, there's something infinitely more tragic about a con man trying to do right, failing miserably, never living up to his family's expectations/being shut out by his family, and then deciding "fuck it, I'm all in" than a shitty, mean chemistry teacher becoming even more of a megalomaniac. I am absolutely dreading finding out what fate awaits my beloved Kim Wexler, but know that ultimately she's probably going to have a hand in whatever that fate is. It's beautifully agonizing. Also Howard Hamlin is possibly one of the best written characters on any show. On any other show, he'd just be a cartoon villain, but here he's a cocky, arrogant, self-centered dick who got his position and wealth through nepotism, who is actually sort of kind, and tries to play fair, and just wants everyone to be happy. BCS Spoilers below:
While the obvious misstep (and most likely trigger for Kim) in Howard's speech was his wrong assumption that her leaving the firm was Jimmy's idea, I'm thinking the most important part might be the "Chuck was right". Chuck was, in many respects, a dick, and maybe Jimmy becoming Saul wouldn't have happened if he'd been less of one (but it's a big maybe: Jimmy threw away a successful play-by-the-rules lawyer job with a fancy desk all by himself). But we've always known that his dire predictions about what Slippin' Jimmy practicing law would become nonetheless ended up right on the money. Howard's now inheriting the mantle of the unpopular Cassandra who says accurate things we don't want to hear because he's not the protagonist and we like Jimmy more than him. It's perhaps not a million miles from some people's dislike of Skyler in BB, but now more deliberately engineered by the writers. |
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Post by Rainbow Rosa on Jun 11, 2020 16:07:11 GMT -5
Conventional wisdom is that Malcolm in the Middle started off great, got worse after the second season, and fell off a cliff when Frankie Muniz hit puberty. Conventional wisdom is wrong: the show had its best run of episodes in the sixth season, the kids got better with age, and the show kept the visual panache that made it so great for its entire run.
It's the best (American) comedy of the aughts by a country mile - better than The Office, which I'm not sure would have been greenlit had MITM not made single-cam sitcoms a thing.
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Post by Superb Owl π¦ on Jun 11, 2020 16:46:38 GMT -5
Conventional wisdom is that Malcolm in the Middle started off great, got worse after the second season, and fell off a cliff when Frankie Muniz hit puberty. Conventional wisdom is wrong: the show had its best run of episodes in the sixth season, the kids got better with age, and the show kept the visual panache that made it so great for its entire run. It's the best (American) comedy of the aughts by a country mile - better than The Office, which I'm not sure would have been greenlit had MITM not made single-cam sitcoms a thing. So my mom came from a big, pretty chaotic family and was one of (maybe THE) first in the family to actually go to college. If nothing else, I think MITM did seem to tap into the kind of proud-and-loving-but-also-fuck-you-for-thinking-your-better-than-us-now dynamic I've seen with her and her siblings. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2020 19:58:54 GMT -5
Conventional wisdom is that Malcolm in the Middle started off great, got worse after the second season, and fell off a cliff when Frankie Muniz hit puberty. Conventional wisdom is wrong: the show had its best run of episodes in the sixth season, the kids got better with age, and the show kept the visual panache that made it so great for its entire run. It's the best (American) comedy of the aughts by a country mile - better than The Office, which I'm not sure would have been greenlit had MITM not made single-cam sitcoms a thing. I have never heard this about Malcolm in the Middle. Everything points to it as being a pretty consistent show thoughout the run, the very last season being the only questionable one. Also, Arrested Development original recipe is by far the best sitcom of the aughts. |
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Post by Hachiman on Jun 14, 2020 21:25:42 GMT -5
I have access to 3 different streaming services and I've come to the conclusion that just flipping to whatever random program is on regular TV is actually the more relaxing option. I think this is because you just sort of surrender to your limited options while also not making any sort of effort to pay attention. Its just a much more passive experience and a better way to spend a slow morning than actively trying to search through 1000's of choices to find something which you then feel obligated to watch closely since you're paying for it and you chose it.
tl;dr: Too much choice is actually more bothersome than relatively little choice.
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Post by LazBro on Jun 15, 2020 10:54:47 GMT -5
I have access to 3 different streaming services and I've come to the conclusion that just flipping to whatever random program is on regular TV is actually the more relaxing option. I think this is because you just sort of surrender to your limited options while also not making any sort of effort to pay attention. Its just a much more passive experience and a better way to spend a slow morning than actively trying to search through 1000's of choices to find something which you then feel obligated to watch closely since you're paying for it and you chose it. tl;dr: Too much choice is actually more bothersome than relatively little choice. The trick is to have something you don't mind putting on for the thousandth time. Sure, your wife will be all, "Really, this again?" but c'mon it's just background noise. Personal favorites of mine are Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives, No Reservations/Parts Unknown, Top Gear/The Grand Tour, John Mulaney comedy specials, and video game speedrun videos. I know many people do this with narrative shows, but that doesn't work for me. If I'm going to put on something with a story, I either want to watch it or not have it on at all. |
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Post by patbat on Jun 15, 2020 11:28:21 GMT -5
I have access to 3 different streaming services and I've come to the conclusion that just flipping to whatever random program is on regular TV is actually the more relaxing option. I think this is because you just sort of surrender to your limited options while also not making any sort of effort to pay attention. Its just a much more passive experience and a better way to spend a slow morning than actively trying to search through 1000's of choices to find something which you then feel obligated to watch closely since you're paying for it and you chose it. tl;dr: Too much choice is actually more bothersome than relatively little choice. Alvin Toffler says hi |
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