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Post by Powerthirteen on Feb 14, 2017 20:39:36 GMT -5
I wonder if they're trying to get to the bottom of it before going public. I mean, people are going to want answers (we want answers!) and that could take months of investigation. I would think they're just trying to stay on top of the story, which they should. People are investigating, but they get beaten up, and told to stay off the case if they know what's good for them. Sean O'Neal got his nose sliced open with a switchblade!
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Post by Ben Grimm on Feb 14, 2017 20:43:46 GMT -5
What caused people to even look into this in the first place? How was this story broken? E. Buzz Miller started raising money for an Opera Punk memorial before he realized he had gotten it backwards. He tried to hastily reverse it, but it was too late. Alternately, I'm lying. Or am I?
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Post by Celebith on Feb 14, 2017 20:46:36 GMT -5
What caused people to even look into this in the first place? How was this story broken? It's in the doc, but someone realized that they had friends who worked where Opera Punk worked, and asked about their mutual friends and then things began to unravel.
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Post by Nudeviking on Feb 14, 2017 20:48:30 GMT -5
What caused people to even look into this in the first place? How was this story broken? It's in the doc, but someone realized that they had friends who worked where Opera Punk worked, and asked about their mutual friends and then things began to unravel. That makes sense I suppose.
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Post by ComradePig on Feb 14, 2017 20:59:42 GMT -5
So apparently the powers that be at TOC have known about this for a couple of months now. I keep hoping a retraction will show up, any thoughts as to why it hasn't? I don't need it for my own enlightenment, I feel like I'm as understanding of this as I will ever be. However, I assume there are still people who have no idea, and thinking about all that outpouring of goodwill based on a pile of lies really irks me. I want to go and reply to every comment on that obit with a link to the google doc, but I don't want to seem like the type of person who gets gleeful over giving people awful news. I wonder if they're trying to get to the bottom of it before going public. I mean, people are going to want answers (we want answers!) and that could take months of investigation. I would think they're just trying to stay on top of the story, which they should. I doubt they'll ever publish a formal retraction or news story about it. After all, the AVC has fairly wide readership and the majority of those that visit don't take part in the commenting game, and particularly given the amount of time that has passed since E. Buzz was a prominent poster I imagine most readers would just be confounded as all fuck as to what the hell this all is even about. I mean, I still basically feel that way and I remember the dude. It'd be nice if they pass the word to some respected peeps to keep the rest of us updated though, and remove all mention of Buzz from the original obit page of course, but undoing his bizarro persona in a public manner seems like it'd take more effort than its worth for a minimal audience.
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Post by Powerthirteen on Feb 14, 2017 21:02:23 GMT -5
What caused people to even look into this in the first place? How was this story broken? E. Buzz Miller started raising money for an Opera Punk memorial before he realized he had gotten it backwards. He tried to hastily reverse it, but it was too late. Alternately, I'm lying. Or am I? it's a lie, but it's a entertaining lie.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Feb 14, 2017 23:53:41 GMT -5
Yeesh, that is just awful. Horrible the way he (I assume) was manipulating emotions of people. Damn, I just don't understand how someone could treat people that way.
Edit: Reading further into this thread - OMG, I am starting to get really angry now. This guy was interacting with people on FB and Twitter and texting and completely draining them emotionally. That is just so wrong!
Ugh, I'm so sorry for all of you who experienced that.
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Feb 15, 2017 1:36:30 GMT -5
I feel like what will happen is, a website will write about this story (because even if you've never heard of Dom King, the long term melodrama of this catfish will attract interest in and of itself) and the AV Club will link to that story when it occurs.
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Post by Prole Hole on Feb 15, 2017 2:04:03 GMT -5
Sadly, yes. In some detail, in fact. Or.... Think carefully now, Prole, about the real-life people you know in the real physical world. Do they all have strange, unrealistic-sounding names like Edwin Hackelthwaite-Thorpe, Sylvia Gangrene, Tertius Eigenvector, Mugwump McAlberts, Agamemna Lockspade, and Aloysius "Ostrogoth" Vulgate? I live in Holland. So, yes.
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Post by Lurky McLurk on Feb 15, 2017 4:02:39 GMT -5
I feel like what will happen is, a website will write about this story (because even if you've never heard of Dom King, the long term melodrama of this catfish will attract interest in and of itself) and the AV Club will link to that story when it occurs. Probably under GJI.
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Post by GumTurkeyles on Feb 15, 2017 6:35:50 GMT -5
So do we think he chose the name Dom King as a play on Don King, or as a play on Kingdom?
Mind kog?
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Post by Pastafarian on Feb 15, 2017 9:24:03 GMT -5
I feel like what will happen is, a website will write about this story (because even if you've never heard of Dom King, the long term melodrama of this catfish will attract interest in and of itself) and the AV Club will link to that story when it occurs.
Great Job, Internet!EDIT: Damn, Lurky beat me by five hours.
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Post by pairesta on Feb 15, 2017 11:19:29 GMT -5
I've been reading the comments for some of the early Classic Simpsons reviews and Buzz is all over them. I still get a reflexive bit of sorrow when I scroll past his av, then remind myself that nope he FUCKING FAKED HIS OWN DEATH.
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Post by Pastafarian on Feb 15, 2017 11:55:59 GMT -5
I've been reading the comments for some of the early Classic Simpsons reviews and Buzz is all over them. I still get a reflexive bit of sorrow when I scroll past his av, then remind myself that nope he FUCKING FAKED HIS OWN DEATH. AND THE DEATH OF AT LEAST ONE GIRLFRIEND
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Post by haysoos on Feb 15, 2017 12:07:40 GMT -5
I've been reading the comments for some of the early Classic Simpsons reviews and Buzz is all over them. I still get a reflexive bit of sorrow when I scroll past his av, then remind myself that nope he FUCKING FAKED HIS OWN DEATH. AND THE DEATH OF AT LEAST ONE GIRLFRIEND The death of at least one fictional girlfriend.
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Post by Floyd Diabolical Barber on Feb 15, 2017 13:13:47 GMT -5
I feel like what will happen is, a website will write about this story (because even if you've never heard of Dom King, the long term melodrama of this catfish will attract interest in and of itself) and the AV Club will link to that story when it occurs.
Great Job, Internet!EDIT: Damn, Lurky beat me by five hours. *coughfivedaysagocough*
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Post by Spicoli Burger on Feb 15, 2017 21:06:43 GMT -5
Was Ellie the same Ellie who used to post here? EllieShe was MPDGish, I don't think anyone actually met her, and had some drama. To be fair, AV Club: Had Some Dramais a fair descriptor of almost everything in the comments in general, but still. ETA: I was conflating Ellie and Emma, but it still made me wonder about the Ellie account. I actually did meet that Ellie, while in Boston nearly four years ago. . .I don't think she had anything to do with this whole Dom thing.
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Post by Floyd Diabolical Barber on Feb 15, 2017 21:46:22 GMT -5
About the only way this could get weirder would be to discover that someone had collected on a large life insurance policy. Now there would be a third act for you.
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Post by π cahusserole π on Feb 15, 2017 21:53:47 GMT -5
My own personal crazy theory: whoever is behind "Dom" is a womanβsince when joining communities on the internet, it can be easier to appear as a dude. Then she created "Harriet," created this whole life they had, got bored with it, and killed off "Dom" so that she could be closer to her real self (although still not exactly herself since she was using this other woman's photos). Perhaps the first girlfriend didn't get enough traction with her communities as "Harriet" did.
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Post by Prole Hole on Feb 16, 2017 3:49:46 GMT -5
My own personal crazy theory: whoever is behind "Dom" is a womanβsince when joining communities on the internet, it can be easier to appear as a dude. Then she created "Harriet," created this whole life they had, got bored with it, and killed off "Dom" so that she could be closer to her real self (although still not exactly herself since she was using this other woman's photos). Perhaps the first girlfriend didn't get enough traction with her communities as "Harriet" did. Maybe it's simpler than that. Maybe this is how Skynet gets started.
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Post by ComradePig on Feb 16, 2017 5:06:48 GMT -5
Somehow I missed out on or at least had completely forgotten till now about the entire 'first girlfriend that died' part of his persona, I suppose I always kind of tuned out E.Buzz when he ( ??) went into drama dervish mode even though I liked the dude well enough most of the time but, whew, the pure dickery of pretending to be fake drama hound new girlfriend to drag out fond memories of fake old dead ex-girlfriend from grieving people, that is......well, something else. One wonders if he has restarted the process elsewhere on some far flung internet community that isn't yet aware, or if our fine internet detectives have at last brought the Buzz menace and its associated jacknapery to heel. It just seems like it'd be hard to give up a half decade (or even more depending on how real Dom is) of hardcore catfishing and go back to whatever the fuck normalcy is for this person.
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Post by Dellarigg on Feb 16, 2017 5:56:16 GMT -5
My own personal crazy theory: whoever is behind "Dom" is a womanβsince when joining communities on the internet, it can be easier to appear as a dude. Then she created "Harriet," created this whole life they had, got bored with it, and killed off "Dom" so that she could be closer to her real self (although still not exactly herself since she was using this other woman's photos). Perhaps the first girlfriend didn't get enough traction with her communities as "Harriet" did. As a Brit, I have to say that Opera Punk always struck me as what she was designed to be: a middle class southern Brit. He captured that really well. So maybe we're looking for a middle class southern Brit. Hmmm ...
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Post by Tellyfier on Feb 16, 2017 6:06:19 GMT -5
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Post by Lurky McLurk on Feb 16, 2017 8:36:30 GMT -5
My own personal crazy theory: whoever is behind "Dom" is a womanβsince when joining communities on the internet, it can be easier to appear as a dude. Then she created "Harriet," created this whole life they had, got bored with it, and killed off "Dom" so that she could be closer to her real self (although still not exactly herself since she was using this other woman's photos). Perhaps the first girlfriend didn't get enough traction with her communities as "Harriet" did. As a Brit, I have to say that Opera Punk always struck me as what she was designed to be: a middle class southern Brit. He captured that really well. So maybe we're looking for a middle class southern Brit. Hmmm ... Oi. I may be middle class and live in the South, but assure you I'm northern. ETA: For what it's worth, I thought the Jolly Hockeysticks persona came across as a bit much, but put it down to a bit of identity over-assertion while living among the Septics.
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Post by Dellarigg on Feb 16, 2017 8:38:15 GMT -5
As a Brit, I have to say that Opera Punk always struck me as what she was designed to be: a middle class southern Brit. He captured that really well. So maybe we're looking for a middle class southern Brit. Hmmm ... Oi. I may be middle class and live in the South, but assure you I'm northern. Well now - I wasn't trying to smoke anyone out here, but ...
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Post by Judkins Moaner on Feb 16, 2017 8:47:08 GMT -5
I thought the Jolly Hockeysticks persona came across as a bit much, but put it down to a bit of identity over-assertion while living among the Septics. This was always my take, not least as I've seen it happen numerous times back in the day (there was this one guy in college, vaguely resembling Hugh Grant, who was a classic of the form). Maybe not so much now, with increased online familiarity between British and Americans, but I always noticed that the people who played it up (and why wouldn't they?) never seemed to hail from north of the Watford Gap (either for real or knowing on what side their subconsciously transatlantic classist bread was buttered). And it happens every now and again with other nationalities; a former co-worker (and ex-husband of a present co-worker) was both French and sleazy, and tried to cover up his innumerable instances of creepiness with "hey, I'm French!" I often wonder whether I should have alerted the consulate. I also understand there are countryfolk of mine who more or less sprout ten-gallon-hats on leaving the States for any length of time.
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Post by Powerthirteen on Feb 16, 2017 9:01:12 GMT -5
For what it's worth, I thought the Jolly Hockeysticks persona came across as a bit much, but put it down to a bit of identity over-assertion while living among the Septics.Β If you're British then why isn't this paragraph written in English, eh?
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Feb 16, 2017 10:01:45 GMT -5
Oi. I may be middle class and live in the South, but assure you I'm northern. ETA: For what it's worth, I thought the Jolly Hockeysticks persona came across as a bit much, but put it down to a bit of identity over-assertion while living among the Septics. It was all too on-the-nose for me, too. I figure there are probably plenty of people who overplay their national-identity stereotypes when living abroad, but to do so in writing? All the time? Nice try, "Dom". ::EYEROLL::
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Post by Dellarigg on Feb 16, 2017 10:07:10 GMT -5
Oi. I may be middle class and live in the South, but assure you I'm northern. ETA: For what it's worth, I thought the Jolly Hockeysticks persona came across as a bit much, but put it down to a bit of identity over-assertion while living among the Septics. It was all too on-the-nose for me, too. I figure there are probably plenty of people who overplay their national-identity stereotypes when living abroad, but to do so in writing? All the time? Nice try, "Dom". ::EYEROLL:: Shocking, mate, innit?
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Post by Pastafarian on Feb 16, 2017 11:25:17 GMT -5
Gonna put another shrimp on the barbie!
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