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Post by Lurky McLurk on Jul 27, 2017 4:52:42 GMT -5
Ok, probably not actually Dom this time, but this seems the right place to talk about the same type of shenanigans. Those of you who read the Savage Love comments on a regular basis will likely be familiar with Other Guy, who posts (or posted) highly entertaining stories of their dating/sex life and their (female to neutral) gender transition. [Edit - it turns out that many of you will be familiar with OG as well-established poster here and elsewhere in the AVC commenter shared universe, and not just the parts of it in which I regularly participate. Anyway, I'm mainly talking about OG's posts of the last year or so.]I've long since taken OG's stories with a large pinch of salt. That's partly because they were going to go to the Chicago (I think) meet up, but oops had to cancel at the last minute due to family in town and post E.Buzz/OP I'm suspicious of that sort of thing - and mainly because no-one older than 17 has a life that dramatic and interesting on such a regular basis. But those mild suspicions didn't matter to me, because the stories were always really fun, the person was likeable, no-one was was trying to get me to part with any money or to swallow their semen which has holy powers and will cure my lower back pain (I'm not falling for that one again). Anyway, this week in the Savage Love comments, there's a new commenter all over them who is quite obviously Other Guy posting under a new Disqus ID. And here's a conversation I had with them. I do rather dislike being told something so obviously untrue, in that either the poster thinks I'm stupid, or I'm being co-opted into going along with something without being clear on what I'm going along with. My inclination, frankly, is just to block and move on (and with the coming Kinjapocalypse none of this will matter anyway. Not that it really matters now). However, am I being unfair to this person? Is this some sort of code that's blatantly obvious to those who understand it ("I am transitioning and/or I'm being stalked, please accept me for who I'm claiming to be now"), but I'm too obtuse to follow? |
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Post by Not a real doctor on Jul 27, 2017 6:46:28 GMT -5
Ok, probably not actually Dom this time, but this seems the right place to talk about the same type of shenanigans. Those of you who read the Savage Love comments on a regular basis will likely be familiar with Other Guy, who posts (or posted) highly entertaining stories of their dating/sex life and their (female to neutral) gender transition. I've long since taken OG's stories with a large pinch of salt. That's partly because they were going to go to the Chicago (I think) meet up, but oops had to cancel at the last minute due to family in town and post E.Buzz/OP I'm suspicious of that sort of thing - and mainly because no-one older than 17 has a life that dramatic and interesting on such a regular basis. But those mild suspicions didn't matter to me, because the stories were always really fun, the person was likeable, no-one was was trying to get me to part with any money or to swallow their semen which has holy powers and will cure my lower back pain (I'm not falling for that one again). Anyway, this week in the Savage Love comments, there's a new commenter all over them who is quite obviously Other Guy posting under a new Disqus ID. And here's a conversation I had with them. I do rather dislike being told something so obviously untrue, in that either the poster thinks I'm stupid, or I'm being co-opted into going along with something without being clear on what I'm going along with. My inclination, frankly, is just to block and move on (and with the coming Kinjapocalypse none of this will matter anyway. Not that it really matters now). However, am I being unfair to this person? Is this some sort of code that's blatantly obvious to those who understand it ("I am transitioning and/or I'm being stalked, please accept me for who I'm claiming to be now"), but I'm too obtuse to follow? Yeah, man. That, and a quick look at that commenters other comments has fake warning bells clanging all around it. However, didn't ayatollahcm actually meet Other Guy IRL a while back? |
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Post by Dellarigg on Jul 27, 2017 6:49:17 GMT -5
Not to talk out of school, but didn't Other Guy leave here under some kind of cloud?
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Post by Lurky McLurk on Jul 27, 2017 7:06:15 GMT -5
Not to talk out of school, but didn't Other Guy leave here under some kind of cloud? Other Guy is not a registered name here. I checked before bringing this up. |
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Post by Scruff on Jul 27, 2017 7:33:01 GMT -5
OG used to be here. There was the running joke of Other Guy not being a guy.
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Post by Dellarigg on Jul 27, 2017 7:35:55 GMT -5
Not to talk out of school, but didn't Other Guy leave here under some kind of cloud? Other Guy is not a registered name here. I checked before bringing this up. *puffs on pipe* I go back a ways here, sonny. 2013 veteran, with all that entails. |
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Post by Dr. Rumak on Jul 27, 2017 8:56:43 GMT -5
Anyway, this week in the Savage Love comments, there's a new commenter all over them who is quite obviously Other Guy posting under a new Disqus ID. And here's a conversation I had with them. I do rather dislike being told something so obviously untrue, in that either the poster thinks I'm stupid, or I'm being co-opted into going along with something without being clear on what I'm going along with. My inclination, frankly, is just to block and move on (and with the coming Kinjapocalypse none of this will matter anyway. Not that it really matters now). However, am I being unfair to this person? Is this some sort of code that's blatantly obvious to those who understand it ("I am transitioning and/or I'm being stalked, please accept me for who I'm claiming to be now"), but I'm too obtuse to follow? You are right that this seems weird. The implication that a stalker hacked OG's account to post a bunch of stuff about transitioning week after week, and that OG never once tried to tell us it was not them? Oh, and the person who reminded you of OG *just happens* to actually know OG and happens to have this piece of information that they did not feel the need to share until you mentioned that they reminded you of OG? Quite a bit of a coincidence. |
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Post by Dr. Rumak on Jul 27, 2017 9:03:58 GMT -5
Yeah, man. That, and a quick look at that commenters other comments has fake warning bells clanging all around it. However, didn't ayatollahcm actually meet Other Guy IRL a while back? The Selfie thread has a picture of ayatollahcm which he indicates was taken by OG (since this thread is no longer on TMI, I won't link to it here, but you can find it if you search for it). So maybe he can straighten this out and tell us what's what. |
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Post by Celebith on Jul 27, 2017 9:05:19 GMT -5
OG used to be here. There was the running joke of Other Guy not being a guy. Knowing that The Other Guy isn't a guy is how I 'proved' to IK that I was actually a TIer and not some poser, when I got a bunch of email contacts from him to organize the first NYC meetup. |
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Post by Lurky McLurk on Jul 27, 2017 9:13:19 GMT -5
Anyway, this week in the Savage Love comments, there's a new commenter all over them who is quite obviously Other Guy posting under a new Disqus ID. And here's a conversation I had with them. I do rather dislike being told something so obviously untrue, in that either the poster thinks I'm stupid, or I'm being co-opted into going along with something without being clear on what I'm going along with. My inclination, frankly, is just to block and move on (and with the coming Kinjapocalypse none of this will matter anyway. Not that it really matters now). However, am I being unfair to this person? Is this some sort of code that's blatantly obvious to those who understand it ("I am transitioning and/or I'm being stalked, please accept me for who I'm claiming to be now"), but I'm too obtuse to follow? You are right that this seems weird. The implication that a stalker hacked OG's account to post a bunch of stuff about transitioning week after week, and that OG never once tried to tell us it was not them? Oh, and the person who reminded you of OG *just happens* to actually know OG and happens to have this piece of information that they did not feel the need to share until you mentioned that they reminded you of OG? Quite a bit of a coincidence. And has the same actor (whose name temporarily escapes me), wearing the same suit, as a profile picture. |
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Jul 27, 2017 9:24:54 GMT -5
Anyway, this week in the Savage Love comments, there's a new commenter all over them who is quite obviously Other Guy posting under a new Disqus ID. And here's a conversation I had with them. I do rather dislike being told something so obviously untrue, in that either the poster thinks I'm stupid, or I'm being co-opted into going along with something without being clear on what I'm going along with. My inclination, frankly, is just to block and move on (and with the coming Kinjapocalypse none of this will matter anyway. Not that it really matters now). However, am I being unfair to this person? Is this some sort of code that's blatantly obvious to those who understand it ("I am transitioning and/or I'm being stalked, please accept me for who I'm claiming to be now"), but I'm too obtuse to follow? You are right that this seems weird. The implication that a stalker hacked OG's account to post a bunch of stuff about transitioning week after week, and that OG never once tried to tell us it was not them? Oh, and the person who reminded you of OG *just happens* to actually know OG and happens to have this piece of information that they did not feel the need to share until you mentioned that they reminded you of OG? Quite a bit of a coincidence. Sounds legit to me! I mean, that whole situation makes PERFECT sense! |
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Post by Not a real doctor on Jul 27, 2017 9:32:04 GMT -5
You are right that this seems weird. The implication that a stalker hacked OG's account to post a bunch of stuff about transitioning week after week, and that OG never once tried to tell us it was not them? Oh, and the person who reminded you of OG *just happens* to actually know OG and happens to have this piece of information that they did not feel the need to share until you mentioned that they reminded you of OG? Quite a bit of a coincidence. Sounds legit to me! I mean, that whole situation makes PERFECT sense! What sealed the whole "this is fishy to me" was a statement that was something like "Oh, I know OG, we're good friends IRL, they were telling me X thing over bagels and lox the other day." Bagels. And. Lox.
Such a minute, odd detail to include in the retelling of a much more thematically interesting story. So Buzzwelian that my eyes immediately narrowed* *I am half serious, half joking but those sorts of "casually tossed off, super-specific, "mildly quirky" details in a story set off my fake-o-meter immediately. |
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Jul 27, 2017 9:42:05 GMT -5
What sealed the whole "this is fishy to me" was a statement that was something like "Oh, I know OG, we're good friends IRL, they were telling me X thing over bagels and lox the other day." Bagels. And. Lox.
Such a minute, odd detail to include in the retelling of a much more thematically interesting story. So Buzzwelian that my eyes immediately narrowed* *I am half serious, half joking but those sorts of "casually tossed off, super-specific, "mildly quirky" details in a story set off my fake-o-meter immediately. Buzzwelian! HA! I love it!! And seriously, that's exactly it. I recall, back in the days of Opera Punk introducing herself on AVC, how she talked about the first date she'd gone on with Buzz, one he'd agonized over beforehand with the commentariat there. Like, this was all being written out as an affirmation of what a great first-date guy Buzz is, and then there was some crap about how he'd given her a bouquet of azaleas, of all flowers. I have no idea why, but I was like, "I smelled a rat here before, but that seals it." And it makes me want to say to this not-really-OG-but-knows-OG-personally-totally-for-reals-this-is-all-true person, "Oh, bagels and lox? Were there azaleas at the table?? DON'T PRETEND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT I MEAN!" |
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Post by Invisible Goat on Jul 27, 2017 10:01:15 GMT -5
Fuck lox
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Post by dＬᵒ on Jul 27, 2017 10:26:13 GMT -5
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Post by The Stuffingtacular She-Hulk on Jul 27, 2017 10:41:50 GMT -5
This is just mcfuckin' weird and makes no sense.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 11:00:28 GMT -5
What are the odds that a vast majority of things said in Savage Love aren't based on fact
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Post by Celebith on Jul 27, 2017 11:12:00 GMT -5
Would it be worthwhile to present a summary of this to someone at AVC?
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Post by Tellyfier on Jul 27, 2017 11:38:42 GMT -5
btw, Gender/Sex change etc. was/is a favourite topic of rotund fellow
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Post by Floyd Diabolical Barber on Jul 27, 2017 11:55:07 GMT -5
I remember Other Guy as being a pleasant person, who perhaps once posted a selfie, maybe in a Halloween costume or something (not that that would prove anything one way or the other), who decided to leave for some kind of personal reason. I have vague memories of thinking they were an interesting contributor, and thinking that it was too bad that they felt they needed to leave. I don't remember if we ever interacted directly.
I realize that this isn't useful in the least, but oh well.
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Post by Not a real doctor on Jul 27, 2017 12:36:37 GMT -5
What are the odds that a vast majority of things said in Savage Love aren't based on fact You mean in the comments or the actual column? Nvm, it's definitely a two things situation. |
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Post by Liz n Dicksgiving on Jul 27, 2017 12:37:54 GMT -5
I remember Other Guy as being a pleasant person, who perhaps once posted a selfie, maybe in a Halloween costume or something (not that that would prove anything one way or the other), who decided to leave for some kind of personal reason. I have vague memories of thinking they were an interesting contributor, and thinking that it was too bad that they felt they needed to leave. I don't remember if we ever interacted directly. I realize that this isn't useful in the least, but oh well. That was my impression too. Of course, I can't speak to nuOther Guy's decency, beyond the basic weirdness of clearly being Other Guy in a bad disguise. |
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Post by The Most Popular Commenter on Jul 27, 2017 13:39:42 GMT -5
This doesn't happen in the lion tank.
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Jul 27, 2017 13:45:07 GMT -5
I have texted with Other Guy, or at least someone saying they were Other Guy, but I suppose that doesn't mean much. They were meant to come to a couple of meet-ups but cancelled.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 13:59:36 GMT -5
"Basically, poor Other Guy isn't coming back to AV Club for a very long time and is pretty intent on not even reading the site. I've been feeding condensed versions of Sean O'Neil articles to them for the past month after they found out the news."  |
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Post by dＬᵒ on Jul 27, 2017 14:21:04 GMT -5
What are the odds that a vast majority of things said in Savage Love aren't based on fact You mean in the comments or the actual column? Nvm, it's definitely a two things situation. I'm beginning to doubt there is a Dan Savage. |
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Post by Dr. Rumak on Jul 27, 2017 14:38:49 GMT -5
Well, I believe the original prediction when they started allowing comments in Savage Love was that it was not going to end well.
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on Jul 27, 2017 14:42:40 GMT -5
"Basically, poor Other Guy isn't coming back to AV Club for a very long time and is pretty intent on not even reading the site. I've been feeding condensed versions of Sean O'Neil articles to them for the past month after they found out the news." 1. They misspelled O'Neal 2. How would a condensed version of an O'Neal article even work? |
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Post by ayatollahcm on Jul 27, 2017 14:54:21 GMT -5
Ok, just had a chance to catch up on this thread.
I've met Other Guy. I stayed with Other Guy. Other Guy is real. In fact, last year, Other Guy and I were rather close, on a talk-every-day level close. Then we had a falling out. This was all before the whole transitioning thing.
As for their drama, as far as I can tell it might or might not be real. I met a good handful of people they mentioned in SL (or in the stories they wrote on SL back in 2015/2016). I...have opinions that are best left to DMs or private messages for curious parties or people I generally trust.
My suspicion is that the person posting is the same person, just trying to dissociate themselves or something. There's honestly too much to unpack here, and there's an awful lot to unpack with that person in general, so I tend to just leave them be.
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