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Post by Ben Grimm on Aug 1, 2023 15:50:19 GMT -5
Clone Wars had a ton of filler (and even worse, Jar-Jar episodes) and really only was engaging to me when it focused on Ahsoka and Rex, once they became the real stars of the show. Rebels always felt more focused and coherent to me. Rebels also benefitted from the major plot points not happening in a movie that came out before the series started. I think the show started when I was in college but I know my little (then high school-aged) sister gave the early bit a try, though maybe out of obligation since she wanted a lay of the land if she was going to study animation (she ultimately didn’t). From what I saw it was incredibly dumb, but it’s some point I ended up seeing the one with the clones dealing with the big, six-armed evil Jedi general and was legitimately impressed by how seriously they took the contours of their world and made a compelling story out of it—clone armies and prescience can be silly in live-action Star Wars but this was legit involving. I never checked out more of the show but the degree to which they were able to individuate and get drama from the clones was impressive. Rex was one of the clones, and I ended up caring more about his story (and that of several of the other clones) way more than I did about Anakin or Obi-Wan. The show was really good about elevating those characters that you'd expect to be interchangeable background characters. |
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Post by Nudeviking on Aug 1, 2023 18:59:43 GMT -5
I honestly started watching all these cartoons begrudgingly because it seemed like I needed to have a base level knowledge of them if I want to go forward with the live action Star Wars stuff and over a 100+ episodes later I'm honestly kind of stoked for that Ahsoka show too, though I think I should probably finish Rebels before I get around to watching that one. As for the episode based on you know which episode it is? Will it be immediately obvious? Probably not, honestly, I recognized it right away because I'd actually run that adventure for my group, or at the very least planned to do so, so I recognized the mission right away. Probably not a big spoiler to say it was this one: Strike Force: Shantipole I ran that module before so I'm guessing I will immediately do that Leonardo DiCaprio from Once Upon a Time in Hollywood pointing meme thing when the episode starts and someone's telling the crew of the Ghost about a prototype B-Wing. |
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Post by Nudeviking on Aug 1, 2023 19:06:06 GMT -5
Clone Wars had a ton of filler (and even worse, Jar-Jar episodes) and really only was engaging to me when it focused on Ahsoka and Rex, once they became the real stars of the show. Rebels always felt more focused and coherent to me. Rebels also benefitted from the major plot points not happening in a movie that came out before the series started. I think the show started when I was in college but I know my little (then high school-aged) sister gave the early bit a try, though maybe out of obligation since she wanted a lay of the land if she was going to study animation (she ultimately didn’t). From what I saw it was incredibly dumb, but it’s some point I ended up seeing the one with the clones dealing with the big, six-armed evil Jedi general and was legitimately impressed by how seriously they took the contours of their world and made a compelling story out of it—clone armies and prescience can be silly in live-action Star Wars but this was legit involving. I never checked out more of the show but the degree to which they were able to individuate and get drama from the clones was impressive. The one you saw is legitimately one of the series high points; a top five arc to be certain. But it's also one of the things that made me the most annoyed about the show because you'd have something like that where it's real compelling TV but it came right after some dumb bullshit that was like "What if C3-PO and R2-D2 did Gulliver's Travels and Wizard of Oz shit?" The gulf between the best the show had to offer and the absolute worst is huge and it's present throughout the entire run of the show as opposed to something like Star Trek: TNG where they get the bulk of the really bad episode out of their system in the first couple seasons before finding their groove and just putting out a long stretch of good to great TV episodes. |
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Post by Ben Grimm on Aug 23, 2023 7:38:31 GMT -5
Enjoyed the first two episodes of Ahsoka. Lots of Rebels fan service, but not so much that I think it would necessarily distract people who hadn't seen it. It was nice to see Clancy Brown reprise his Rebels character in live action.
It looks like this is mostly going to be setup to get things in place to fit Heir to the Empire into the new canon, with a side of Rebels season 5. I'm still a little uncertain about Sabine as Ahsoka's padawan; Sabine doesn't appear to actually be force-sensitive, at least going by the Tennant-bot whose name I was never entirely sure of, but maybe I was reading too much into what he said.
I think the casting's been pretty good, so far. I liked Sabine, I liked MEW as Hera. No one's been earth-shattering to me so far, but happy to be along for the ride. I'm still very curious about Ray Stevenson's character and what his actual motivation is here; he seems to alternate between having been completely corrupted and possibly having a hidden more noble intention here. I don't think he's going to fill in for Joruus, like I used to, though.
I keep wondering if the ex-inquisitor lackey is going to get any lines before dying. Because you know that character isn't making it through the season alive.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Aug 23, 2023 9:23:57 GMT -5
Enjoyed the first two episodes of Ahsoka. Lots of Rebels fan service, but not so much that I think it would necessarily distract people who hadn't seen it. It was nice to see Clancy Brown reprise his Rebels character in live action. It looks like this is mostly going to be setup to get things in place to fit Heir to the Empire into the new canon, with a side of Rebels season 5. I'm still a little uncertain about Sabine as Ahsoka's padawan; Sabine doesn't appear to actually be force-sensitive, at least going by the Tennant-bot whose name I was never entirely sure of, but maybe I was reading too much into what he said. I think the casting's been pretty good, so far. I liked Sabine, I liked MEW as Hera. No one's been earth-shattering to me so far, but happy to be along for the ride. I'm still very curious about Ray Stevenson's character and what his actual motivation is here; he seems to alternate between having been completely corrupted and possibly having a hidden more noble intention here. I don't think he's going to fill in for Joruus, like I used to, though. I keep wondering if the ex-inquisitor lackey is going to get any lines before dying. Because you know that character isn't making it through the season alive. I have seen bits of Rebels here and there - TWBE is very into it - and did enjoy the first two eps of Ahsoka. He geeked out over Chopper big time. I liked the Loth-cat.  Clearly Dave Filoni is having a grand ole time. The Tennant-bot's name is Huyang (hoo-yang) which actually bothers me a little because it's kind of Asian-coded? But the design is cool. I'm still trying to figure out if we've seen Wes Chatham's character yet. Anyway, it's enjoyable. |
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Post by Ben Grimm on Aug 23, 2023 12:05:05 GMT -5
Enjoyed the first two episodes of Ahsoka. Lots of Rebels fan service, but not so much that I think it would necessarily distract people who hadn't seen it. It was nice to see Clancy Brown reprise his Rebels character in live action. It looks like this is mostly going to be setup to get things in place to fit Heir to the Empire into the new canon, with a side of Rebels season 5. I'm still a little uncertain about Sabine as Ahsoka's padawan; Sabine doesn't appear to actually be force-sensitive, at least going by the Tennant-bot whose name I was never entirely sure of, but maybe I was reading too much into what he said. I think the casting's been pretty good, so far. I liked Sabine, I liked MEW as Hera. No one's been earth-shattering to me so far, but happy to be along for the ride. I'm still very curious about Ray Stevenson's character and what his actual motivation is here; he seems to alternate between having been completely corrupted and possibly having a hidden more noble intention here. I don't think he's going to fill in for Joruus, like I used to, though. I keep wondering if the ex-inquisitor lackey is going to get any lines before dying. Because you know that character isn't making it through the season alive. I have seen bits of Rebels here and there - TWBE is very into it - and did enjoy the first two eps of Ahsoka. He geeked out over Chopper big time. I liked the Loth-cat. Clearly Dave Filoni is having a grand ole time. The Tennant-bot's name is Huyang (hoo-yang) which actually bothers me a little because it's kind of Asian-coded? But the design is cool. I'm still trying to figure out if we've seen Wes Chatham's character yet. Anyway, it's enjoyable. I looked it up, and Huyang apparently debuted back in Clone Wars, still voiced by Tennant. I had forgotten we had seen him before, even if he looked familiar. |
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Post by Nudeviking on Aug 23, 2023 19:38:18 GMT -5
I have seen bits of Rebels here and there - TWBE is very into it - and did enjoy the first two eps of Ahsoka. He geeked out over Chopper big time. I liked the Loth-cat. Clearly Dave Filoni is having a grand ole time. The Tennant-bot's name is Huyang (hoo-yang) which actually bothers me a little because it's kind of Asian-coded? But the design is cool. I'm still trying to figure out if we've seen Wes Chatham's character yet. Anyway, it's enjoyable. I looked it up, and Huyang apparently debuted back in Clone Wars, still voiced by Tennant. I had forgotten we had seen him before, even if he looked familiar. He's in the terrible arc about younglings that was apparently a backdoor pilot for some Clone Wars spin-off show aimed at younger kids that never got made. Dude won some sort of Emmy for his performance in the cartoon which I don't really understand since he has maybe 10 or 15 lines across the entire arc and none of it is particularly memorable. It just seemed like a neat little stunt casting thing. |
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Post by Ben Grimm on Aug 23, 2023 20:46:06 GMT -5
I looked it up, and Huyang apparently debuted back in Clone Wars, still voiced by Tennant. I had forgotten we had seen him before, even if he looked familiar. He's in the terrible arc about younglings that was apparently a backdoor pilot for some Clone Wars spin-off show aimed at younger kids that never got made. Dude won some sort of Emmy for his performance in the cartoon which I don't really understand since he has maybe 10 or 15 lines across the entire arc and none of it is particularly memorable. It just seemed like a neat little stunt casting thing. That whole concept seems poorly conceived. "Come mee some of the kids Anakin will eventually murder so that scene can be more disturbing." No wonder I barely remember it. |
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Post by Nudeviking on Aug 23, 2023 20:51:59 GMT -5
He's in the terrible arc about younglings that was apparently a backdoor pilot for some Clone Wars spin-off show aimed at younger kids that never got made. Dude won some sort of Emmy for his performance in the cartoon which I don't really understand since he has maybe 10 or 15 lines across the entire arc and none of it is particularly memorable. It just seemed like a neat little stunt casting thing. That whole concept seems poorly conceived. "Come mee some of the kids Anakin will eventually murder so that scene can be more disturbing." No wonder I barely remember it. Even putting aside the disturbing "We all know what's going to happen to those kids in like a year..." implication of introducing a gaggle of small children characters deep in Clone Wars' run the episodes just suck. Like the child characters end up disguising themselves as circus performers to save Ahsoka from Hondo's pirate gang after Hondo kidnaps her and as an aside tells her that he's going to sell her to someone that pays top dollar for young female Jedi. It's a kid's show folks! |
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Aug 23, 2023 21:55:30 GMT -5
I like it so far. Excited to see where it goes, and hope they stick the landing in the end.
I like that Morgan is tied to the Dathomiri Witches. I love that I can half-understand Chopper now after reading during my Rebels viewing that his syllables match actual words. "Did you go through my stuff?!" HA!
I am torn on the mural. I love it and wish it were better at the same time.
So now the big question that doesn't make sense to me. If Ezra and Thrawn ended up getting transported to a completely different galaxy via the hyperspace whale-squids, who the fuck created a map to get there?
And a smaller question that is just absurd. Azadi (Clancy Brown) ACTUALLY said "when the Empire was defeated several years ago" to make the timeline vague? That's just...silly.
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Post by Nudeviking on Aug 24, 2023 0:28:30 GMT -5
I like it so far. Excited to see where it goes, and hope they stick the landing in the end. I like that Morgan is tied to the Dathomiri Witches. I love that I can half-understand Chopper now after reading during my Rebels viewing that his syllables match actual words. "Did you go through my stuff?!" HA! I am torn on the mural. I love it and wish it were better at the same time. So now the big question that doesn't make sense to me. If Ezra and Thrawn ended up getting transported to a completely different galaxy via the hyperspace whale-squids, who the fuck created a map to get there? And a smaller question that is just absurd. Azadi (Clancy Brown) ACTUALLY said "when the Empire was defeated several years ago" to make the timeline vague? That's just...silly. What percentage of Chopper's live action dialogue is some variant of "Fuck?" In the cartoon it's pretty clear that like 80% of his dialogue is him telling people to fuck off or bellowing "Fuck!" when people are trying to kill him or calling Ezra a little fucker. |
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Aug 24, 2023 0:55:48 GMT -5
I like it so far. Excited to see where it goes, and hope they stick the landing in the end. I like that Morgan is tied to the Dathomiri Witches. I love that I can half-understand Chopper now after reading during my Rebels viewing that his syllables match actual words. "Did you go through my stuff?!" HA! I am torn on the mural. I love it and wish it were better at the same time. So now the big question that doesn't make sense to me. If Ezra and Thrawn ended up getting transported to a completely different galaxy via the hyperspace whale-squids, who the fuck created a map to get there? And a smaller question that is just absurd. Azadi (Clancy Brown) ACTUALLY said "when the Empire was defeated several years ago" to make the timeline vague? That's just...silly. What percentage of Chopper's live action dialogue is some variant of "Fuck?" In the cartoon it's pretty clear that like 80% of his dialogue is him telling people to fuck off or bellowing "Fuck!" when people are trying to kill him or calling Ezra a little fucker. Oh yeah, like when Zeb bets Chopper in a sabacc game, Chopper says "What the fuck?!" |
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Post by Nudeviking on Aug 24, 2023 1:03:22 GMT -5
What percentage of Chopper's live action dialogue is some variant of "Fuck?" In the cartoon it's pretty clear that like 80% of his dialogue is him telling people to fuck off or bellowing "Fuck!" when people are trying to kill him or calling Ezra a little fucker. Oh yeah, like when Zeb bets Chopper in a sabacc game, Chopper says "What the fuck?!" Yes! And then bangs his head against the table and screams "Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck!" when Zeb loses. Perfect show. No notes. |
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Post by Ben Grimm on Aug 24, 2023 6:06:21 GMT -5
So now the big question that doesn't make sense to me. If Ezra and Thrawn ended up getting transported to a completely different galaxy via the hyperspace whale-squids, who the fuck created a map to get there? Someone at some point in the distant past made a map of the Purgill's hyperspace routes. It's less "this is a map to Thrawn" than "this is a map to the place where Thrawn probably ended up." |
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Post by WKRP Jimmy Drop on Aug 24, 2023 11:27:32 GMT -5
Enjoyed the first two episodes of Ahsoka. Lots of Rebels fan service, but not so much that I think it would necessarily distract people who hadn't seen it. It was nice to see Clancy Brown reprise his Rebels character in live action. It looks like this is mostly going to be setup to get things in place to fit Heir to the Empire into the new canon, with a side of Rebels season 5. I'm still a little uncertain about Sabine as Ahsoka's padawan; Sabine doesn't appear to actually be force-sensitive, at least going by the Tennant-bot whose name I was never entirely sure of, but maybe I was reading too much into what he said. I think the casting's been pretty good, so far. I liked Sabine, I liked MEW as Hera. No one's been earth-shattering to me so far, but happy to be along for the ride. I'm still very curious about Ray Stevenson's character and what his actual motivation is here; he seems to alternate between having been completely corrupted and possibly having a hidden more noble intention here. I don't think he's going to fill in for Joruus, like I used to, though. I keep wondering if the ex-inquisitor lackey is going to get any lines before dying. Because you know that character isn't making it through the season alive. This is a new experience for me, going into a Star Wars show that has established characters without knowing much of anything about them. I mean I know Ahsoka and Sabine exist, but that's about it.
After two episodes, I have no real opinion, good or bad, other than my massive eye-rolling at the whole "oooooo Sabine doesn't play by the rules! Riding a motorcycle super fast and skipping ceremonies!" They have got to start coming up with better ways to introduce an unconventional character.
Also I'm not a fan of the whole "I am/was a Jedi, therefore my voice must be emotionless" mode of speech that Rosario Dawson does. I don't know who to blame, but it's probably ROTJ Luke. Old!Obi-wan actually had some expression, and so did Qui-Gon, but they were both older actors who put a bit of nuance into their vocal patterns. ROTJ Luke was very "look how calm and collected and at one with the Force I am", and it drove me nuts.
So far I'm more interested in Ray Stevenson and his apprentice than whatever's going on with the good guys. Which is definitely new to me for Star Wars. I usually do not care at all about SW bad guys, because they're usually definitively Imperial, and y'all just fascists.
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Post by sarapen on Aug 29, 2023 12:15:30 GMT -5
Surface impressions on the cast: Man, RIP Titus Pullo, had no idea he died. Also I'm really having trouble seeing Syndulla as anything but Mary Elizabeth Winstead painted yellow. Darth Grimes is kinda cute. Also I forgot old martial arts lady was Danny Inosanto's daughter, we got a Bruce Lee connection up in this.
Anyway I haven't seen Rebels and stopped midway through Clone Wars so I don't really have a big connection to these characters. I could tell I was supposed to be jizzing my pants when various live action versions of Rebels characters showed up. Also I found out later that several shots were remakes of scenes from Rebels, which probably explains why the episodes feel longer than they should be - they have to get their slop quota in.
As you can guess, I'm somewhat lukewarm on the first couple of eps, partly because I don't have any fond memories of any of these people. I was pretty impressed when Sabine got stabbed with a lightsaber because I thought it was a bold choice to just kill a beloved Rebels character in the premiere. Then I started episode 2 and got majorly disappointed since killing Sabine off would have been a nice sign of just how far the show was willing to go for an interesting narrative. But instead it didn't want to let go of the action figure it was fond of.
Anyway, if they were going to have Sabine survive then couldn't they have disabled her in any other way besides the instant death one, or at least put in something with Ahsoka hurriedly administering first aid and then the episode ends with uncertainty over Sabine's survival? I guess I can see why they aired the first two episodes at once because people would have been annoyed if the shocking ending of episode 1 was cancelled out the following week at the beginning of episode 2.
Also, one thing to remember is that season 1 is only 8 episodes, so the show is already 25% over. I'm getting "really long movie we turned into a miniseries" vibe from this fact.
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Post by Pedantic Editor Type on Aug 29, 2023 12:19:49 GMT -5
Man, RIP Titus Pullo, had no idea he died. Also I'm really having trouble seeing Syndulla as anything but Mary Elizabeth Winstead painted yellow. She's green! |
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Post by sarapen on Aug 30, 2023 11:45:16 GMT -5
Why can't the bean counters ever be right? The country's postwar reconstruction budget gets siphoned off by paranoid militarists suffering from PTSD from the war, millions of people get their unemployment benefits cut for military adventures, then a large mass of angry dispossessed citizens is attracted to the sweet anger of a charismatic demagogue. Then Space Hitler becomes chancellor and a new generation of rebels takes up arms, among them a farmboy, a humanoid rug, a devil may care pilot, a space aristocrat, and a pair of ambiguously gay robots. After they win the Newer New Republic is set up and its constitution states that they will never cut social spending on the advice of rebels who play by their own rules.
Anyway, you can probably guess I was bored by episode 3, especially because large parts of it was just the first movie all over again. Looks like we've got another Obi-Wan over here folks.
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Post by nowimnothing on Aug 30, 2023 12:00:25 GMT -5
I did like the subtle nod to Clerks in Episode 2 as we got to meet some of the independent contractors who turned out to not be as independent as they claimed.
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Post by WKRP Jimmy Drop on Sept 7, 2023 16:20:13 GMT -5
Guys can we pleeeeeease stop with the death fakeouts?
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Post by Superb Owl 🦉 on Sept 7, 2023 21:24:24 GMT -5
Continues to crack me up that the dad from Kim’s Convenience is now the connective tissue of the Star Wars universe.
And man, maybe Ahsoka feels more exciting to folks that were invested in the cartoons but its Obi-Wan level just kind of flat for me
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Sept 13, 2023 1:09:29 GMT -5
This week's episode of Ahsoka was much better. Honestly, it was pretty frickin' cool seeing young Ahsoka and Anakin during the Clone Wars (and Rex!).
Like I said about the Clone Wars show itself, it did a lot to rehabilitate the mess that was Anakin in Revenge of the Sith, and I'm glad Hayden Christensen got to come back for this.
And presumably, we're finally getting to the fireworks factory next week.
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Post by sarapen on Sept 22, 2023 10:56:30 GMT -5
Thrawn definitely looks like Elon Musk painted blue. Also I didn't see any girl stormtroopers on his ship. Should we assume it's a Foreign Legion situation where each guy takes a turn in the glory hole?
Also this was somehow the best episode of the show. It's not actually great but I was reasonably entertained. Is it a coincidence that it's also the episode where the main character is only on screen for 2 minutes? Was it also like that in Boba Fett? I'm having trouble remembering anything from it but I think so. Maybe Star Wars TV should just never show the main character.
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Post by WKRP Jimmy Drop on Sept 22, 2023 23:25:32 GMT -5
Yeeeah, unsurprisingly I’m just not really into Ahsoka. I’m not familiar with any of the characters other than Appa and Mon Mothma, and Filoni is making absolutely zero effort to provide any set-up for viewers who haven’t watched any of his animated stuff.
I’m not quite saying “I feel uncomfortable when we are not about me”, and I definitely don’t need everything explained to me, but I am saying that it seems kinda…hmmm arrogant? I guess? to take the approach “Imma make a show aimed entirely at This Sector of Massive Fandom only” and not attempt to pull in any group other than the Rebels fandom.
Mando is largely new characters, and therefore it wasn’t nearly as obvious that they weren’t actually providing info about Bo-Katan other than “should be ruling Mandalore and mad she’s not”.
I am at least moderately interested in Ray Stevenson & his apprentice - because their characterization unfolds as this story does.
idk maybe I am yelling at clouds. It’s just irritating.
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Post by sarapen on Sept 25, 2023 12:32:14 GMT -5
Yeeeah, unsurprisingly I’m just not really into Ahsoka. I’m not familiar with any of the characters other than Appa and Mon Mothma, and Filoni is making absolutely zero effort to provide any set-up for viewers who haven’t watched any of his animated stuff. I’m not quite saying “I feel uncomfortable when we are not about me”, and I definitely don’t need everything explained to me, but I am saying that it seems kinda…hmmm arrogant? I guess? to take the approach “Imma make a show aimed entirely at This Sector of Massive Fandom only” and not attempt to pull in any group other than the Rebels fandom. Mando is largely new characters, and therefore it wasn’t nearly as obvious that they weren’t actually providing info about Bo-Katan other than “should be ruling Mandalore and mad she’s not”. I am at least moderately interested in Ray Stevenson & his apprentice - because their characterization unfolds as this story does. idk maybe I am yelling at clouds. It’s just irritating. No, I feel the same way having also not watched Rebels. It's honestly kind of annoying. Couldn't Filoni have just made an actual Rebels sequel instead of sneaking one in under Ahsoka's series? Honestly, when Ahsoka appeared in Mando I assumed her series would be the Jedi version of Mando, with Ahsoka wandering the galaxy righting wrongs in each episode while slowly gathering clues about where Thrawn is. And yeah, Ray Stevenson (R.I.P.) elevates the lines he's given, making them sound portentous and melancholic. |
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Post by ABz B👹anaz on Sept 26, 2023 22:58:51 GMT -5
This week's episode was pretty great all around! Very curious to see how the season is going to end though.
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Post by Ben Grimm on Sept 27, 2023 5:51:54 GMT -5
This week's episode was pretty great all around! Very curious to see how the season is going to end though. Yeah, I'm really enjoying the show, but I have a sneaking suspicion that we're going to get a much less clean conclusion than it looked like we might a few episodes back. We might be getting a very frustrating cliffhanger. |
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Post by nowimnothing on Sept 28, 2023 10:19:08 GMT -5
Much as I hate to admit it, I kind of agree with Sam Barsanti at TOC. It seems like we are spinning our wheels and this is less a show that can stand on its own than a bridge between Rebels and the crossover movie. For someone like me who never really watched Rebels and only a bit of Clone Wars, there just is not much there. It is cool to look at, but I don't know why I am supposed to care about any of these people.
It also seems like it is trying to fix some plot holes in the sequels, which is admirable but yet another distraction from the show itself.
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Post by Desert Dweller on Sept 29, 2023 3:31:12 GMT -5
I don't have Disney+ right now, and I never watched "Rebels" so I probably won't ever watch this show. But I'm wondering if it is doing anything to explain how the First Order is so big and powerful, even though the sequels aren't set that long after the original trilogy?
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Post by nowimnothing on Sept 29, 2023 7:56:54 GMT -5
I don't have Disney+ right now, and I never watched "Rebels" so I probably won't ever watch this show. But I'm wondering if it is doing anything to explain how the First Order is so big and powerful, even though the sequels aren't set that long after the original trilogy? Not directly yet, but they are reinforcing the idea that there are a lot of Imperial people still around. These include some higher ups like Thrawn or the secret council that Moff Gideon was on as well as a ton of sympathizers* embedded in the New Republic. They are also introducing the idea of a lot of uncharted areas where Imperial remnants could rebuild without notice. *I think the New Republic Senator who has been an ass in Ahsoka is revealed to be one in some of the graphic novels? I also realized that I was mixing up Tony Shalhoub for Peter Jacobson as the crooked bureaucrat. |
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