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Post by GussieFinkNottle on May 21, 2015 11:17:26 GMT -5
I guess the bigger shows really bring out those who cannot be the slightest bit critical of something they love. Every episode has to be an A and the fans will do mental backflips justifying any writing choice. As others have said it is a shame, I was initially drawn to the AV Club because it felt like people were having real discussions and conversations about shows my friends didn't necessarily watch. Whilst it's fun to geek out together when shows have an amazing episode or even amazing moments I've little desire to converse with sycophants.
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Post by Lone Locust of the Apocalypse on May 21, 2015 12:26:39 GMT -5
While fans who refuse to acknowledge that a show has problems are annoying, so is the opposite: people who criticize events that haven't even happened in the show yet. GoT has plenty of those.
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Post by GussieFinkNottle on May 22, 2015 9:11:42 GMT -5
While fans who refuse to acknowledge that a show has problems are annoying, so is the opposite: people who criticize events that haven't even happened in the show yet. GoT has plenty of those. Fair point, although the majority of complains about future events this season were book readers saying "oh god, they're gonna rape Sansa, that sucks, I don't want to see that". |
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on May 24, 2015 21:25:40 GMT -5
Well we finally got Tyrion and Daenerys in a conversation, which is all I ever wanted from his book five arc.
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Post by MrsLangdonAlger on May 24, 2015 21:53:47 GMT -5
Ugh. Way to double down on the "rape/potential rape as motivation for a dude" thing, show.
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Post by kitchin on May 24, 2015 23:02:53 GMT -5
Well we finally got Tyrion and Daenerys in a conversation, which is all I ever wanted from his book five arc. "Who are you?" "Don't you read?!" |
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Post by rimjobflashmob on May 25, 2015 9:56:26 GMT -5
D&D might not be the best writers in the world, but you've got to give them credit for plowing right through GRRM's supposed "Meereneese knot."
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Post by nowimnothing on May 25, 2015 12:31:20 GMT -5
D&D might not be the best writers in the world, but you've got to give them credit for plowing right through GRRM's supposed "Meereneese knot." Of course Dany is still in Meereen... Is Tyrion good enough to help her stabilize her rule and set sail by the end of the season? |
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Post by rimjobflashmob on May 25, 2015 12:33:40 GMT -5
D&D might not be the best writers in the world, but you've got to give them credit for plowing right through GRRM's supposed "Meereneese knot." Of course Dany is still in Meereen... Is Tyrion good enough to help her stabilize her rule and set sail by the end of the season? She's still there, but she and Tyrion have finally met face-to-face, which is the culmination of about 50 book plots and 5000+ pages (a good fifth of those being "AWHURR DO WHURRRES GURRR??"). |
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Post by heroboy on May 25, 2015 12:41:15 GMT -5
Of course Dany is still in Meereen... Is Tyrion good enough to help her stabilize her rule and set sail by the end of the season? She's still there, but she and Tyrion have finally met face-to-face, which is the culmination of about 50 book plots and 5000+ pages (a good fifth of those being "AWHURR DO WHURRRES GURRR??"). And don't forget the few hundred pages of setting up a new important character, then unceremoniously killing him off in the same book after going through probably the least thought out plan in existence. |
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Post by nowimnothing on May 25, 2015 13:25:01 GMT -5
She's still there, but she and Tyrion have finally met face-to-face, which is the culmination of about 50 book plots and 5000+ pages (a good fifth of those being "AWHURR DO WHURRRES GURRR??"). And don't forget the few hundred pages of setting up a new important character, then unceremoniously killing him off in the same book after going through probably the least thought out plan in existence. I don't think Targaryans are known for well thought out plans in general. |
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Post by rimjobflashmob on May 25, 2015 13:35:03 GMT -5
And don't forget the few hundred pages of setting up a new important character, then unceremoniously killing him off in the same book after going through probably the least thought out plan in existence. I don't think Targaryans are known for well thought out plans in general. Are any of the royal families in Westeros, though? Excepting maybe the Tyrells, everybody else seems to be from the "show up, see what happens, get killed horribly" school of Throne Games. |
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Post by heroboy on May 25, 2015 14:23:01 GMT -5
And don't forget the few hundred pages of setting up a new important character, then unceremoniously killing him off in the same book after going through probably the least thought out plan in existence. I don't think Targaryans are known for well thought out plans in general. I should have been more explicit. I was thinking about the Dornish lad's plan to steal a dragon.
Step 1: Unchain Dragon Step 2: Get Eaten Step 3: ... Step 4: Profit!
Like what were they planning on doing with a massive dragon and only 3 men? "Hey, we'll get into the dragon dome, then just wing it I guess. That one kinda listened to his mother that one time, so I'm sure I could control one that's never seen me before. I've got this sweet whip and everything"
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on May 25, 2015 16:42:01 GMT -5
So this week on Thronecast the fan guest actually talks about the Sansa rape (as I noted it doesn't get referenced last week); and also briefly the season three consensual sex to rape thing; even going back to Danerys/Drogo - deep cut for someone who admits she hasn't read the books; she's getting this information from reading fan websites. It is of course the fan guest who says this; not the two hosts or the castmember guest (this week, Tommen.) They soon pivot to Ser Pounce tweeting a question for Tommen.
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Post by Lone Locust of the Apocalypse on May 25, 2015 17:11:14 GMT -5
So this week on Thronecast the fan guest actually talks about the Sansa rape (as I noted it doesn't get referenced last week); and also briefly the season three consensual sex to rape thing; even going back to Danerys/Drogo - deep cut for someone who admits she hasn't read the books; she's getting this information from reading fan websites. It is of course the fan guest who says this; not the two hosts or the castmember guest (this week, Tommen.) They soon pivot to Ser Pounce tweeting a question for Tommen. I doubt Tommen would be in this mess if Ser Pounce was still around. |
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Post by nowimnothing on May 25, 2015 18:22:14 GMT -5
I don't think Targaryans are known for well thought out plans in general. I should have been more explicit. I was thinking about the Dornish lad's plan to steal a dragon.
Step 1: Unchain Dragon Step 2: Get Eaten Step 3: ... Step 4: Profit!
Like what were they planning on doing with a massive dragon and only 3 men? "Hey, we'll get into the dragon dome, then just wing it I guess. That one kinda listened to his mother that one time, so I'm sure I could control one that's never seen me before. I've got this sweet whip and everything"
I knew that, but somehow I was mixing up Quentyn Martell with young Griff.  |
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Post by Nudeviking on May 26, 2015 1:25:37 GMT -5
So this week on Thronecast the fan guest actually talks about the Sansa rape (as I noted it doesn't get referenced last week); and also briefly the season three consensual sex to rape thing; even going back to Danerys/Drogo - deep cut for someone who admits she hasn't read the books; she's getting this information from reading fan websites. It is of course the fan guest who says this; not the two hosts or the castmember guest (this week, Tommen.) They soon pivot to Ser Pounce tweeting a question for Tommen. I doubt Tommen would be in this mess if Ser Pounce was still around. Ser Pounce should have learned to defend his right. |
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Post by sarapen on May 26, 2015 21:42:22 GMT -5
Alternate episode title: Fat Pink Mast. I had to pause that scene several times to convince myself to continue watching just because I kept getting PTSD flashbacks to reading that part of the book.
Also, how many years did it take Tyrion to get to that fireworks factory?
But seriously, when Myrcella said she's been in Dorne for years I realized that I have no idea how much time has passed in-universe. Are the kids legally adults yet?
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Post by Lone Locust of the Apocalypse on May 27, 2015 8:34:34 GMT -5
Alternate episode title: Fat Pink Mast. I had to pause that scene several times to convince myself to continue watching just because I kept getting PTSD flashbacks to reading that part of the book. Also, how many years did it take Tyrion to get to that fireworks factory? But seriously, when Myrcella said she's been in Dorne for years I realized that I have no idea how much time has passed in-universe. Are the kids legally adults yet? I think Myrcella has been in Dorne for two years now, though I doubt that counts as "years". |
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Post by Some Kind of Munster on May 27, 2015 8:40:25 GMT -5
I should have been more explicit. I was thinking about the Dornish lad's plan to steal a dragon.
Step 1: Unchain Dragon Step 2: Get Eaten Step 3: ... Step 4: Profit!
Like what were they planning on doing with a massive dragon and only 3 men? "Hey, we'll get into the dragon dome, then just wing it I guess. That one kinda listened to his mother that one time, so I'm sure I could control one that's never seen me before. I've got this sweet whip and everything"
That was actually my favourite part of that god damn book. I laughed my ass off when that lumpy turd got dragoned. |
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on May 27, 2015 12:20:20 GMT -5
Lone Locust of the Apocalypse I think two years probably counts as years if you are a teenager, especially one who feels their entire life changed two years ago and are trying to explain that to your uncle.
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on May 31, 2015 21:24:37 GMT -5
WUN WUN
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Post by rimjobflashmob on May 31, 2015 23:46:11 GMT -5
Best episode of the season by a mile, best episode since "The Lion and the Rose" (S4E2), arguably top 5 of the series. Calling the Olly stuff unsubtle would be an understatement, but otherwise, just a fantastic episode.
Side note: if Ramsay takes out the Mannis with 20 dudes, I rescind everything I just said 20 times.
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Post by nowimnothing on Jun 1, 2015 10:58:01 GMT -5
Best episode of the season by a mile, best episode since "The Lion and the Rose" (S4E2), arguably top 5 of the series. Calling the Olly stuff unsubtle would be an understatement, but otherwise, just a fantastic episode. Side note: if Ramsay takes out the Mannis with 20 dudes, I rescind everything I just said 20 times. I don't know, it is always cool to see a small strike force succeed against a superior enemy, but it is Ramsay, so it would also be cool for him to crash and burn in a spectacular fashion just to wipe that smirk off his face. I wonder how Ramsay would hold out against Melisandre... there is a meet-up I did not know I wanted until now. |
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Post by Post-Lupin on Jun 1, 2015 14:45:06 GMT -5
Anyone else distracted by Dany clearly wearing a modern part-lace bra under her dress in the first Tyrion scene?
(Not that I especially stare at her tits... but I do notice when historic-ish shows fuck up like that. You should have heard me moaning about Agent Carter's faux-seam stockings.)
And I'm glad we didn't spend too long building up Arya's career as a seller
OF COCKLES
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Post by Douay-Rheims-Challoner on Jun 1, 2015 14:47:59 GMT -5
(Not that I especially stare at her tits... but I do notice when historic-ish shows fuck up like that. You should have heard me moaning about Agent Carter's faux-seam stockings.) I dunno I feel 'ish' is the key word there - with all the high tech wizbangery in the first Captain America movie improved stocking technology is probably doable, for example. That'd be unforgivable on Wolf Hall, mind... |
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Post by Post-Lupin on Jun 1, 2015 15:04:39 GMT -5
(Not that I especially stare at her tits... but I do notice when historic-ish shows fuck up like that. You should have heard me moaning about Agent Carter's faux-seam stockings.) I dunno I feel 'ish' is the key word there - with all the high tech wizbangery in the first Captain America movie improved stocking technology is probably doable, for example. That'd be unforgivable on Wolf Hall, mind... Unless Howard Stark created looms that allowed stockings to be made seamless nearly 20 years ahead of time and then went on to create a fashion for fake seams to replace the ones production dictated... ...well, I wouldn't put it past him, actually. |
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Post by rimjobflashmob on Jun 1, 2015 23:09:29 GMT -5
I've watched the last half hour another two times since last night, still awesome.
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Post by Lady Bones on Jun 4, 2015 21:20:00 GMT -5
Fuuuuuuuuuck
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Post by Lone Locust of the Apocalypse on Jun 5, 2015 15:47:22 GMT -5
I want Ramsay to die this season.
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